Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

[Show spoiler]Digital is perfect for the powers that be. They want to control our lives, what we eat, what we watch, when we watch it, how much we watch it, what we do in our spare time, when we exercise, when we work, when we finish, when we die.

Digital health apps, keep fit apps on TVs and the banning of fast food ads before 9pm is just the start of a dictatorship where digital is the enabler to control all our lives.

Deleting and altering content to suit the current situation is a dream for them.

Their point of entry? Climate carbon points, rations.

Nothing is going to be rationed. No one will prevent you from becoming fat on fast food. Even the tin foil that you make your hats out of will be safe.

What should be rationed is your access to the internet; all it does is scare you to death.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Nothing is going to be rationed, even the tin foil that you make your hats out of is safe.

What should be rationed is your access to the internet; all it does is scare you to death.

I wouldn’t be so sure. I can easily see carbon rationing or a points system being implemented in the near future. We will need to keep points to even watch some tv. That’s if we can even afford to buy new tvs when in the future a bottle of whiskey or a plane trip to France are seen as huge luxuries that we need plenty of points/allowance for.

I hope it never happens but I don’t think it’s so unrealistic. I spoke of that actress (Joanne Lumley) bringing a climate ration up, she hob knobs with the top end of society, equally idiotic people might be taking note.

It’s easy to preach what the masses should do when she has earned a fortune and lived in luxury for the best part of 50 years. (It hasn’t gone down well in U.K.)

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Reguarding the articles main focus.


None of the article relates to broadcasting revenues attributed from Cable/Satellite subscriptions from the many TV network providers that is also garnering income involved in home entertainment spending. Even that ISP that you fork out for is part of home entertainment Spending. How else are you going to stream anything without them.

So DEG is falsely claiming that 80% of Home Entertainment Spending comes from streaming. Not a chance that is true.

Should I include my electric bill as part of my home entertainment spending? I am not watching anything without it, either.

The figure shown for SVOD is the amount of money people spent for SVOD. It does not, and it should not, include what we are paying for internet service anymore than it should include what we spend for electric service.

What we spend on the internet is a utility expenditure just like with our phone, power, water & sewer utilities.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I wouldn’t be so sure. I can easily see carbon rationing or a points system being implemented in the near future. We will need to keep points to even watch some tv. That’s if we can even afford to buy new tvs when in the future a bottle of whiskey or a plane trip to France are seen as huge luxuries that we need plenty of points/allowance for.

I hope it never happens but I don’t think it’s so unrealistic. I spoke of that actress (Joanne Lumley) bringing a climate ration up, she hob knobs with the top end of society, equally idiotic people might be listening.

Sadly, you will always be afraid of the future every time anyone makes an alarmist prediction and the internet is overrun with such occurrences.

If I had a dollar for every time over my nearly 60 years that I was told that we were doomed, I would be enjoying the inevitable apocalypse with the elite instead of on these forums with you.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Nothing is going to be rationed. No one will prevent you from becoming fat on fast food. Even the tin foil that you make your hats out of will be safe.

What should be rationed is your access to the internet; all it does is scare you to death.

Our government are already planning to ban fast food adverts until 9pm and are planning a NHS app for next year that will ‘advise’ People what to eat, how to exercise. Rewards will be a trip to the cinema, a free session at the gun or shopping vouchers. It’s just the start.

We will probably end up like China.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Our government are already planning to ban fast food adverts until 9pm and are planning a NHS app for next year that will ‘advise’ People what to eat, how to exercise. Rewards will be a trip to the cinema, a free session at the gun or shopping vouchers. It’s just the start.

We will probably end up like China.

What people plan and what actually happens are often two very different things. Many of my own "for certain" plans never came to fruition.

What you may end up like is Norway when the Gulf Stream shifts to the south. Bundle up!

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Our government are already planning to ban fast food adverts until 9pm and are planning a NHS app for next year that will ‘advise’ People what to eat, how to exercise. Rewards will be a trip to the cinema, a free session at the gun or shopping vouchers. It’s just the start.

We will probably end up like China.

Are the App Police going to knock on your door and demand that you show them that not only did you load up the app, but that you are using it? Will they look in your fridge and take away from you what the app deems is unhealthy?

When all that happens THEN you can worry as much as you want.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Are the App Police going to knock on your door and demand that you show them that not only did you load up the app, but that you are using it? Will they look in your fridge and take away from you what the app deems is unhealthy?

When all that happens THEN you can worry as much as you want.

It happened to China.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It’s easy to preach what the masses should do when she has earned a fortune and lived in luxury for the best part of 50 years. (It hasn’t gone down well in U.K.)

For a moment I thought that you were describing the royal family...until I saw the 50 year part. You guys seem to be fine with keeping those inbred idjits in the lap of luxury century after century after century.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It happened to China.

China is a Communist country. The UK is not

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

China is a Communist country. The UK is not

Yet.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It happened to China.

Does that mean that you will get to experience Mao's re-education labor camps, too? After all, it happened in China.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yet.

Mardi Gras happens here and in Brazil.

Maybe you will get that instead?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

For a moment I thought that you were describing the royal family...until I saw the 50 year part. You guys seem to be fine with keeping those inbred idjits in the lap of luxury century after century after century.

Don’t look at me, I’m in the North East Of England, might as well be another country to us. We are closer to Scotland than London.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Mardi Gras happens here and in Brazil.

Maybe you will get that instead?

Brazilian dancers, would settle for that!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Brazilian dancers, would settle for that!

I'm glad to leave you with a happy thought as I prepare for my next appointments. The 15th is the biggest day among them; I will be the county prize winning guinea pig that day as everyone is having a go at me then.

[Lee A Stewart]

Universal at the Head of the Studio Pack in Q3 Home Entertainment Sales

Universal Pictures Home Entertainment reported third-quarter revenue of $273 million from the sale of physical and digital media — thus far topping all studios that have reported data specific to retail sales. (Disney releases financial results on Nov. 10.)

With a dearth of major new releases due to the pandemic, the home entertainment retail market in the three-month period that ended Sept. 30 continued to be driven by a collection of catalog titles mixed with some new releases.

In addition to F9: The Fast Saga (which streeted in late September), top-selling Universal titles in the quarter included Nobody, The Boss Baby: Family Business, and The Croods: A New Age.

Lionsgate, led by The Hitman’s Wife’s Bodyguard, generated home entertainment revenue of $161 million, which included $31 million from the sales of DVD/Blu-ray Disc and digital retail. Sony Pictures Home Entertainment realized physical and digital retail revenue of $130 million — driven by the original Venom, Peter Rabbit 2: The Runaway, Spider-Man: Far From Home, and The Unholy.

Neither Warner Bros. Pictures or Paramount Pictures breaks out home entertainment sales, preferring to include the category with the licensing of movies, TV shows and video games — largely to streaming services.

Paramount, which generated $513 million in licensing revenue, saw retail sales led by A Quiet Place: Part II. Warner generated $403 million in licensing revenue, led by Godzilla vs. Kong, The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It, Mortal Kombat, and Rick and Morty: Season Five.

Wonder Woman 1984 continues to lead all packaged media movie sales in 2021, with revenue topping $31 million across 1.3 million discs, according to The Numbers. Warner’s 2020 sci-fi release Tenet, remains in the top 10 with $12.1 million in revenue across 466,000 discs.

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/univer...ainment-sales/

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I'm glad to leave you with a happy thought as I prepare for my next appointments. The 15th is the biggest day among them; I will be the county prize winning guinea pig that day as everyone is having a go at me then.

Good luck.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The Q3 DEG chart includes SVOD in the digital revenue section along with VOD and EST; it isn't hard to separate out the individual items listed. Including the SVOD figures does not in any way lessen the integrity of the data shown.

I do not like what the data shows anymore than any other disc advocate does, but I am not going to undermine it just because of how I feel about it. The news isn't "fake" just because it is not what we want to hear.

SVOD is just another method of pay TV, if you want to show total consumer spend as DEG implies then you must include all forms. Digital: satellite as in DirecTV and Dish have been digital since day one and they are not included. I assume most video by cable providers is digital and they are not included. Don't see Pay DTT included either.

Implying the numbers supplied by DEG = TOTAL consumer spend is a but matter to me.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

SVOD is just another method of pay TV, if you want to show total consumer spend as DEG implies then you must include all forms. Digital: satellite as in DirecTV and Dish have been digital since day one and they are not included. I assume most video by cable providers is digital and they are not included. Don't see Pay DTT included either.

Implying the numbers supplied by DEG = TOTAL consumer spend is a but matter to me.

The line items included in the DEG chart are still valid even if it does not include everything that you would like it to include. Some people would say that video gaming should be included as it, too, is a home entertainment expenditure... and a very huge one at that. The physical media and EST figures still show how badly purchases are doing and that is what most of us here are interested in.

Including those things that you mentioned would just show that MUCH more money is spent on digital distribution methods than on physical distribution and demonstrate that purchased content has an even worse home entertainment spending share than what the DEG chart shows. Including this info would make the digital slice of the home entertainment expenditure pie far larger.

It is interesting to note that EST fell more, year-to-date, than discs did, 24.49% vs. 21.61%, even though EST brought in more revenue.