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Halloween (1978) vs Halloween (2007)

[Aloha from Hawaii 73]

Yehuda Efroni RIP (russian priest in Delta Force)

[colesmith]

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[RavenCodex]

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but it seemed like the closest to what I'm searching for. If someone could direct me to a better one I would greatly appreciate it though.

I'm hoping to find some recommendations for scary/horror movies... preferably released within the last decade-ish. As many recommendations as possible. Been WAY too long since I explored the genre (scaredy cat girlfriends and ex-wifey) so missed out a LOT. Like, the last one I remember watching is Stay Alive and while I personally liked it and would see it again... was super weak for the genre imo.

[Pondosinatra]

Star Wars: The Last Jedi



4 out of 5

After six previous films I'm assuming there's no need for a storyline summary so I'll just dive in. It's a dark time for the rebellion...ok I admit while watching the iconic scroll my first reaction was a bit of an eye roll as the story sounded awfully familiar - especially after the previous installment which felt more like a remake of the first film than a sequel. But once I stopped nitpicking and went with the flow I found myself quickly getting sucked into the universe which delighted me as a child and even today as a jaded adult still occasionally sends a shiver of excitement through me. I'll say this up front that I found it to be much more enjoyable than The Force Awakens which for me had a number of serious shortcomings. Performance wise Hamill is terrific, I got over my misgivings of Adam Driver from before and enjoyed him immensely here, and even the late Carrie Fisher while thankfully having a much bigger part this time felt much more settled into the role. In terms of technical's it looks and sounds like what you'd expect from a Star Wars film - a relentless visual and sonic assault on the senses. There are a few things that bugged me - a WTF?!?!? Mary Poppins in Space moment, an overly long runtime (an entire side story could easily have been cut), and a huge gap in logic concerning a mutiny - but one can mostly overlook them for the bigger picture. Loved by critics and savaged by fans in an unusual reversal from the norm, I personally thought it was great and outside the original trilogy the best film in the long running series. May the Force be with you!

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by RavenCodex

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but it seemed like the closest to what I'm searching for. If someone could direct me to a better one I would greatly appreciate it though.

I'm hoping to find some recommendations for scary/horror movies... preferably released within the last decade-ish. As many recommendations as possible. Been WAY too long since I explored the genre (scaredy cat girlfriends and ex-wifey) so missed out a LOT. Like, the last one I remember watching is Stay Alive and while I personally liked it and would see it again... was super weak for the genre imo.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=265445

[Astro Zombie]

I didn’t catch this in theaters. I wasn’t very hyped for it, and the reviews kinda put me off it even more. I blind bought the Blu-ray, mostly because I have all the DCEU digibooks and didn’t want to stop now. Honestly, I went in expecting the worst...and it wasn’t that bad.

The worst thing I can say about it is that it doesn’t really feel epic. Compared to Marvel’s The Avengers, which genuinely felt like an event and a culmination of years of buildup, Justice League just kinda feels like another movie. Which is really the main problem with the DCEU: it feels like they’re just making movies for the sake of having a cinematic universe, instead of having a clear plan like Marvel. This is coming from someone who has generally enjoyed the DCEU; hell, I thought Dawn of Justice was great. Justice League is just the perfect example of the issues with this cinematic universe.

Having said that, it was generally pretty entertaining. Some weak dialogue, sure, and the CGI is surprisingly bad for a big-budget blockbuster, but I had fun. There’s some genuinely cool scenes, like Superman fighting the League and Steppenwolf’s first appearance (unfortunately, by the end Steppenwolf is almost entirely forgettable). Cyborg was also surprisingly decent, which I wouldn’t have thought from the trailer. They at least try to give him an arc and he’s a lot more interesting than I thought he’d be. The Flash was a big highlight too. His scenes are some of the best and funniest in the film.

Two hours almost seems short for what should be a major event film, and while some people might have dreaded this movie being any longer, I definitely think it might have helped in not making it feel so rushed at times. Again, unlike The Avengers, where most of the major characters, villains, and plot devices (Tesseract) had already been introduced before, Justice League was introducing us to many things for the first time. It’s another big issue, but I don’t want it to seem like I’m trashing the movie. Call it low expectations, but it really wasn’t that bad. I can, however, understand people’s disappointment that something as major as a Justice League movie simply wasn’t handled properly. This really should have been bigger.

3.5/5

Review

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Astro Zombie

Justice League

3.5/5

Review

[Al_The_Strange]

Rough draft, very fresh first-time viewing--sorry in advance if anything about the grammar or my interpretation is off.

The Florida Project

Kids will make a paradise out of anything. Even cheap motels--it doesn't matter. The Florida Project is the paradise that a group of children make for themselves on the outskirts that orbit Disneyland, and despite all the rainbows and sunshine, it's a troubling backdrop for very real, harsh struggles.

For most of the film, the camera follows Moonee (Brooklyn Prince), a typical kid just being a kid with other kids. They run around, screaming, bugging people, spitting on cars, playing with everything they get their mitts on, breaking stuff, finding free food and cash. Life is good, right? Except for the parents--the whole time these kids run amok, Moonee's dipsh*t mother Halley (Bria Vinaite) seems to live an equally carefree life, the motel room her only home. A woman who respects nothing and nobody, but is constantly demanding special attention, exception, and handouts. Her mere presence sets off a downward spiral that endangers her, her daughter, her so-called friends, their kids, and the whole "magic kingdom" they're trapped in.

It's as bittersweet as a film can get. All the colorful buildings and sunny vistas paint a pleasant picture, and it's not hard to see the magic that all the kids see in an otherwise trashy environment. It's a testament to the resilience of children's minds and imaginations--it's both touching and spot-on. Overshadowing this, however, is the world of adults. A world of structure and rules, which Bobby Hicks (Willem Dafoe, in a performance that might be one of his absolute best, playing perhaps the most likable character in the film) dutifully upholds, despite being at odds with showing compassion towards the needy denizens of the motel. This is also a world of late-night parties, drugs, fist-fights, hustles, and overall poverty.

Captured with solid photography and snappy editing, the whole film is stitched together with many short vignettes that collectively show how getting the two worlds mixed up leads to trouble. Hally is a character I just love to hate--she has no desire and makes no attempt to earn a genuine living (in contrast to one of her friends, who distances herself after the kids did something very naughty--drama galore happens). Hally shrugs responsibility, disrespects authority, throws fits when she doesn't get her way (even if she blatantly breaks the law, which she does repeatedly). If she has any charm, it's any time she has fun with Moonee, and it seems like that's all she wants for the whole runtime. But her attitude and criminal behavior poisons the environment, to the point of driving away everyone else. It does not end well. Some might say that the film's ending is itself bad, dumb, stupid, or whatever--I think it's a metaphorical culmination of the whole story, suggesting that genuine paradise can only be achieved by breaking away from the spiral of poverty and the toxic environments of selfish people.

The film does succeed on many levels--it's a fairly compelling story with very real-looking performances and locales. Stylish, but not in-your-face about it. Equal parts charming and infuriating--it's simply too hard to look away or ignore. There is a subtle balance between the worlds of children and adults at play, but it avoids fairy-tale cliches and shows both kids and parents at their rawest. My only gripe about the film is that, in terms of pacing and plot momentum, it's a little herky-jerky.

The Florida Project--chances are good you'll either love it for seeing the children playing, invoking nostalgia for the times when we all made our own kingdoms out of whatever mudhole we were in at the time, or you'll love it for the grittier adult drama revolving around these poor kids. Both collide with a somber outcome. I'd even go so far to say this might be a reflection on modern millennial/snowflake behavior and how it could endanger future generations when it gets out of control.

3.5/5

[Pondosinatra]

The Shape of Water



Director: Guillermo del Toro
Main Stars: Sally Hawkins, Michael Shannon, Richard Jenkins, Doug Jones

5 out of 5

Elisa (Hawkins) leads a lonely life. Her daily routine consists of making hard boiled eggs, masturbating in the bath, working at the nearby military research center, and interacting with her neighbor who is a struggling commercial artist. One day at work she is startled to witness the arrival of some top secret cargo consisting of an aquatic creature (Jones). She soon forms a bizarre attachment to it that ultimately leads her into a life or death struggle. Guillermo del Toro is a master filmmaker. His movie Pan's Labyrinth is firmly enshrined as one of my all-time favourites. I purposefully stayed away from any reviews or press for his latest effort as I knew I'd be getting it as soon as it came out on Blu-ray. Within mere seconds I was hooked and sucked into his fantasy vision. It kept reminding me of a weird aquatic version of Amélie and was simply a delight throughout. Visually it is stunningly gorgeous with vivid saturated colours everywhere you look, which gives a feeling of being underwater. He somehow manages to delicately balance humour, wonder, horror and emotion all at once without being excessive in any one area. In the hands of anyone else I contend this would have been a disaster, but in his we have that rare perfect film which ranks as one of his best. It's no wonder it cleaned up at the Oscars. Hugely recommended!

[Pondosinatra]

Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle

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2 out of 5

Director: Jake Kasdan
Main Stars: Dwayne Johnson, Kevin Hart, Jack Black, Karen Gillan

One day four high school kids find themselves in detention - the Jock, the Nerd, the Babe, and the Weird Girl. Hey, it's the Breakfast Club right? Sadly, no. Instead of finding meaning and acceptance about themselves and their relationships with other they instead find the game Jumanji sitting on a shelf collecting dust - now updated from a board game to Nintendo era computer game - and get sucked into its mystical world where their adolescent bodies are transformed into the game's heroes. Now they must work together and use their special powers to restore balance to the force, er, universe of Jumanji. Here we have the latest Hollywood installment in pointless remakes. The late Robin Williams now replaced by The Rock. Hey, maybe they can remake Good Morning Vietnam with him as well? But why stop there? They should remake everything with The Rock. Oh, look! He did that eyebrow thing of his! The guy is just so amazing. What a thespian. In case you can't tell, I'm not a fan. But to be fair, he actually wasn't bad here. Kevin Hart (man he's short) and Jack Black split up the bulk of the comedic work. And hottie Karen Gillan supplies, well, the hotness. Sadly though, she loses her adorable Scottish accent this time. Oh and Tom Hank's kid shows up for literally a minute at the end, likely collecting a $10 million paycheque for his efforts. I guess at the end they do go a little Breakfast Club-ish as they're all one big happy group of friends now. That makes this paint by numbers effort even more annoying by trying to shoehorn some kind of point to the 2 hours?!?!? I just wasted watching. An entertaining enough rental but instantly forgettable.

[Trollhunter]

You Were Never Really Here
(first-time viewing)

It's a challenging film that's not for everyone, very disturbing and very very well done. The sound design is very effective and goes well with the dreamlike / nightmarish world that the characters inhabit where you don't know what's reality and what's hallucination and what's a memory. Your not entirely sure what's happening and it builds in tension just right. The sound design and Jonny Greenwood's score makes you feel the disorientation the Joaquin Phoenix's character experiences throughout the film. It puts you on edge to push you in this world. Joaquin Phoenix gives a performance that just inhabits in the sadness, torment and the confusion of his character Joe that's in great pain and when the pain comes out he's capable of great brutality and amazing gentleness and it believable. You understand why he is that way he is and its fascinating to watch. The director Lynne Ramsay's storytelling techniques are amazing in that she gives you what you think you're gonna get from a movie like this but sorta pulls the rug out from under. She's smart about not giving in to kind of audience desire for typical Hollywood action. Whenever there's is actual violence its either really horrific or barely shown, for example you'll see security camera footage at a distance of Joe taking out this guy or that guy or sequences where you get what would be the seconds after violence has occurred. She makes it more psychological, more about his struggles in this world without making it exciting.

[Aloha from Hawaii 73]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=29ilK1ZaOwc

Soon Tech Oh RIP

[Trollhunter]

Tyler Perry's Acrimony
(first-time viewing)

If you don't know what Acrimony means just like me when I went an saw this movie, don't worry they have a big full screen graphic of what it means along with four other worlds that are never mention in entire movie also. This movie is crazy but not as crazy as you want it to be for long enough you gotta wait for a long time for when you want the crazy batshit Tyler Perry and this movie is all of two hours long but those last 15 minutes the stuff that happens on a boat is coo-coo bananas. I will say that Taraji P. Henson makes this movie way more watchable than it has the right to be just by her terrible performance as the crazy wife who feels she been betrayed by her cheating, loser of a husband. She finds a wide variety of ways of saying the word mother****er and knows well how to smoke a cigarette. She clearly overqualified for this material. I find it hilarious how ridiculously soapy it is. If you can't stand Tyler Perry movies you will probably won't like this one either.

[Trollhunter]

A Quiet Place
(first-time viewing)

This was the most tense movie going experience I ever had. It was so cool being in a packed theater were it was absolutely silent making it an effective way to see this movie. This is absolutely a movie you should see in the theater the sound design is beyond just the use of silence which is masterful. When you do hear noises no matter how small everything is so precise and powerfully intimate. I yelled out loud at one point which something happens the scares really got me this movie is very tense just the first 10 minutes alone are just an excellent study in creating tension. The acting really really good in this. John Krasinski and Emily Blunt are great working together and it's a good script too. It's fascinating watching them communicate mostly in sign language. Millicent Simmons who plays the daughter who is actually deaf is really good also. What I really liked about this film is that they don't really explain what happened. They just drop you in and it's so efficient that like you don't need to be told which is okay. Back to John Krasinski, who knew that guy of US version of The Office had this in him. I know of his last two directed films but never saw them due to hearing about bad reviews so hearing 'directed by John Krasinski' for this film gave not alot of confidence to see it opening weekend. Giving it a chance, I can say now this movie is amazing it's easily the scariest thing I've seen in a long time and part of that is because there's an emotional weight to it because it is as much about the family dynamic and something happens early on in the film that leads to a sense of guilt and despair between Krasinski and Simmons that plays out really well. Back to Emily Blunt, I say again she is so good and so versatile and she has a wonderfully expressive face. She gives essentially a silent performance in a lot of ways. I'm not going to say anything about the ending but it did left me wanting more but I was satisfied with what was there.

[scarletlion]

'Gook' (2017)

If I had watched this 2017 film in 2017, it would be near the top of my best movies of 2017. But I watched it in 2018 so was too late. It's a slice of life type movie set in the days that follow the Rodney King incident in Los Angeles in '92. It's written by, directed by and stars Justin Chon as the lead male Eli. And he pulls off a terrific job. The entire cast is perfect. There are some proper acting chops on display here. From the young Simone Baker playing 10 year old Kamilla to the amazing Curtis Cook Jnr who plays the gang member Keith - they all nail it. Chon even cast his own father as the liquor store owner, and there's one scene in particular that I had to re-watch after reading that fact, as it becomes even more affecting. Chon also states that 'La Haine' is a massive influence on 'Gook', which is no surprise given the subject content and aesthetics.

The film itself centres on Eli and his brother Daniel (played by David So) trying to run a shoe shop in Paramount, L.A. The story is touching, funny, brutal, poignant, tragic and touches on the things you'd expect it to - race relations, immigration, gang culture, poverty, family. What it also does is explore the experiences of Asian American families during the 90s, something not many films have done.

There will no doubt be some criticism of it being overly sentimental, and perhaps rather fanciful, and there were some histrionics late on that were perhaps a tiny bit out of place. But overall, this movie completely grabbed me from the off, reeled me in, chewed me up a bit then spat me out, as movies should. Absolutely excellent.

[Trollhunter]

Rampage
(first-time viewing)

My first question is why is Chicago keep getting destroyed in movies. I've seen Transformers, The Dark Knight, Man of Steel, Independence Day and various other movies that rack up a list. Why is Pop Culture so obsessed with Destroying Chicago? I know in this particular movie you need it because you need skycrapers for the monsters to crawl and knock down because that's the point of the game. And yet Chicago, as a place, rarely factors into the narrative of the other films in any meaningful way. This movie is stooooopid and i had fun with it for the most part. It gets a little gory at times, well so much that it's gory but really intense. It's kind of amazing that they managed to make story out of this game which is effectively "let's just break down some buildings" but it stars The Rock and he's fun in this and Naomi Harris sleepwalks through this. Jake Lacy and Malin Åkerman who play brother and sister who run the company that's responsible for theses mutations, both appear as if from a whole another movie with their cartoon performances. Jeffrey "The Lean" Morgan hamming it up with a bad southern accent. Joe Mangeaniello is in this briefly. This is a perfect example of a mind-numbing insane popcorn movie. Like a big dumb Godzilla vs King Kong giant creatures stomping over cities and destroying each other. If you like that kind of movie then this is for you. For me this movie does'nt work. Directed by Brad Peyton who also directed the Rock in Journey 2: The Mysterious Island and San Andreas. I think Rampage is a better movie than those two. I don't think it's as good as Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle. This is just fine is all I can say. I wish it should have been like over-the-top silly fun like Piranha 3D. It's like not all the way up there the movie want to have an emotional throughline with Dwaye Johnson]s relationship and George the Gorilla but i didnt care for it. They have a nice sign language jokey bond and banter with each other. The dialogue and the jokes really aren't that funny and that's what's missing if the dialogue was a little sharper and the jokes were actually funnier this movie would have been 4 stars. Everything else that is so insane is just okay.

[Trollhunter]

Black Panther
(4th viewing)

Damn even on my 4th viewing, this is an exceptionally entertaining film. The first act may be a little sluggish and the third act is a little rushed but that being said the movie is great. I notice now the movie feels more like a Bond film that a Marvel superhero movie, with Letitia Wright playing T'challa sister who's is basically the Q/ smarter Tony Stark. One of the things this movie does really well is finally getting the villain right in a Marvel movie. Michael B. Jordan's performance in a character is very well written with a tragic aspect and interesting motivation. All the characters except for maybe Daniel Kaluuya's character have really good arcs and i really bought the motivation of of all of them. Just an observation for a movie called Black Panther, Black Panther is kind of a secondary character like the movie does such an interesting world building and introduces us to these fascinating new characters Shuri, Nakia, Okoye, Killmonger and others you don't really get to know Black Panther very well. He's kind of the least interesting person in his own film. There's less development with him it's his arc is more about a choice he makes rather than him learning something whereas everybody else pretty much has to learn something and be different. I think it's fine the movie works but I wanted the movie to tell me who this guy is and then work outwards to the supporting cast. Not saying it as a negetive just something that struck me. That being said the movie is still fun, funny and exciting to watch.

[Al_The_Strange]

Nothing new I'm afraid, just a follow-up from 4/26. As in, LV 426! ALIEN DAY!! Everybody get facehugged! WOOO!!!!

Alien: Covenant (second viewing ever)

Another world, another time, in the age of never-ending franchise sequels. Some new planet was green and good--until the spaceship crashed!

As much as I'd like to continue this synopsis aping the Dark Crystal monologue, let's just sum it up as this: Covenant is 1979's Alien all over again. Strong female lead? Check. Xenomorph? Ov coursh! A crew consisting of the most arrogant and thoughtless f*ck-ups imaginable? Well it just wouldn't be Alien without them, how else can we expect conflict and drama? Covenant has one other prerogative though: to bridge the gap between Prometheus and whatever the next prequel will be.

So when a space storm damages the big mothership, all the dipsh*t characters land on the creepiest planet imaginable, with forests so bleak you'd think you're watching The Evil Dead instead. The disgusting black goo from Prometheus becomes airborne and a few red-shirts breathe it in. Aliens pop out of them. All hell breaks loose once more. David the android shows up to conveniently save a few hides, then lay down exposition. After a huge lag in pacing, the alien chases everybody on the mothership, and they have to blow it out of the hangar bay (...why does this sound so familiar?).

Plot-wise, there's little new to Alien: Covenant. Daniels (Katherine Waterston, in a role that's simultaneously emotional and badass, making her the only likable character in the movie) pretty much treads the same footsteps laid down by Ripley decades before. Other crew members, with all their little quirks and griping, are vaguely reminiscent of the original a-holes from Nostromo. Watching Daniels and the androids is vaguely reflective of Ripley vs Ash.

What is new in Covenant is the way it bridges the gap between movies. While the template remains the same, Ridley Scott fills it with a lot more android-on-android interaction--David and Walter (both played by the ever-manly Michael Fassbender) are quite beside themselves, to the point where pacing screeches to a halt in the third quarter of the movie just so they can philosophize on creation and such. David goes on to shove a flute in Walter's mouth, assuring him "I'll do the fingering." I'm still trying to figure out what this is all supposed to mean... (all joking aside, I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out how they filmed the same man on the same frame while handling the same prop--that's got to be a technical achievement of some kind).

It's clear from the opening frame (an oddly artistic scene that feels less like Alien and more like something out of a foreign drama) that the film's main focus is on the same things Ridley Scott loved to explore in Prometheus and Blade Runner. They all go back to the question of who created who, and how far will people go to prolong life? Stop death? Kill your creators even? The androids continue to be more menacing than the Xenomorph itself, as they continue to plot against mankind and play with the Engineers' mystery goo. What makes Covenant more pointed in my view is that the death aspect has more weight. When the mothership hits the storm, thousands of colonists almost die. The first time we see our lovely heroine, she loses her hubby and mourns him for the first act. That's a pretty ominous note to kick off the movie with--all this just after Walter tells Weyland that he'll surely outlive him (both Prometheus and Alien vs Predator show that Weyland always had the worst luck trying to crack open the life-giving mysteries of all things alien). Death becomes a specter throughout the movie, manifested perhaps in the Neomorph and Xenomorph that the androids covet so much, and wind up stalking the hapless humans. It all makes for a fairly intense, moody, and thoughtful freakshow.

This particular freakshow looks so money--all the sets, props, costumes, and special effects look fabulous. Steady camerawork captures the ambience of every scene impeccably--with a dark, grey color pallet, the film looks appropriately steely. Lead performances are decent--other characters I could take or leave. Writing won't really wow anybody. Music score is nice, but doesn't break new ground--expect to hear reprises of the themes for both Alien and Prometheus.

Alien: Covenant is pretty much more of the same. If you've watched Prometheus and had some lingering questions or unresolved issues, this film won't help you. It is a continuation, yes, but since so many of us complained, we're given an Alien clone that just happens to look better. That, the pacing, and characters you just want to strangle, will probably drive you to eject the rental disc and toss it. And yet, there is something comforting in just sitting back and watching a familiar pattern unfold. There are thrills to be had, the main setpieces are fair standouts, and the film looks so damn good. There are certain plot points, ideas, and scenes I truly appreciate. Chances are Alien franchise fans will find something to love. Others are probably still waiting for Scott and the gang to deliver on their covenant to audiences--you know, the one in which there will be a more satisfactory conclusion to the whole prequel thing (looks like we'll have some more movies to sit through though).

3.5/5 (guilty pleasure)

This is the second UHD disc I've viewed on this new-fangled 4K technology (the first was The Revenant, which sets the bar prettty darn high). Assuming Alien: Covenant was a 2K DI source, I'd take it that this is upscaled. If so, it hardly shows. The film looks sharp as a tack--and it's especially impressive with the particle effects (the very fine black dust stuff that floats in the air, or all the glass shards in the end) in addition to the textures of materials and skin. Colors are decent--this film is bathed in dark scenes, but in 4K, none of them are too murky or crushed or anything, you can see all the things pretty clearly. Sound quality is pleasingly clear and deep. No complaints regarding disc quality at all.

4K PQ: 4.5/5 / AQ: 5/5

[Trollhunter]

Truth or Dare
(first-time viewing)

This movie is nutty, does it make sense no, is it terrible yes, but somewhat entertaining. This is definitely a shut your brain off type of movie. It's nowhere near as good as Happy Death Day which is a thousand times better than this. This movie makes not a lick of sense and relies upon the characters being mind-boggling stupid but there are some decent scares. Also with a pretty good cast of tv people, with Lucy Hale from Pretty Little Liars and Tyler Posey from Teen Wolf and I noticed the Asian guy from The Edge of Seventeen. It's pretty much ridiculous and not in a fun way like it breaks its own rules too many times like it sets these rules out and then it keeps changing them kind of on fly it seems like and it just doesn't really add up. I think this could have been something fun and be a little more knowing but I thought it was lame for a pg-13 horror movie. The demon in the movie is weirdly omniscient because it knows everyone's deepest secrets and knows how to use them to turn them all against each other. I'm sitting here like how does it know that and does it read thoughts I don't know. I feel this movie thinks it is smarter than it is, the way it ended I thought okay you think your clever but no I didn't like it but am intrigued. I would rather see the sequel it sets up after this movie that would be interesting. I can't defend this movie or recommend anyone to see it. But if you do you wont necessarily have awful time I guess.