Offical Neon Genesis Evangelion Info/Update Thread

[Xtempo]

I have both.

the second "remaster" was bought from rightstuf with the Paul Champagne [scratches easily as hell] and the Perfect Collection box by itself which does not have a UPC on it. Also have a non UPC cover of Collection 2 and one with the UPC on it. Thats newer cover and insert to match the later editions. All from the same order.

Not sure how it was stealth release unless you don't exactly follow Eva.

[ps3bd_owner]

Bad news about Episode 16 so as it turns out it won't be in high definition:

The original film for episode 16 no longer exists, so this set uses an upconverted version of the SD master for that episode.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/dail...utlined/.89379

Originally Posted by svenge

Owners of the Perfect Collection are "missing out" on the absolute worst Evangelion DVD ever, namely the first pressing of Collection 0:1 back in 2000.

It was blurry as hell, used overlays to cover on-screen Japanese-language text, and did still-frames between scene transitions to try and mitigate the telecine jitter that Gainax was (in)famous for in that era...

My ****! I'd like to get my hands on that version just to see how badly it is. But buying it now is impossible to tell 'cause they all have the same cover.

Do you happen to have it?

[svenge]

Originally Posted by ps3bd_owner

Bad news about Episode 16 so as it turns out it won't be in high definition.

Which is not really a surprise, as even for the 2003 Renewal DVD set they had to resort to an 35mm internegative source for that episode as the original 16mm negatives were lost.

Originally Posted by ps3bd_owner

My ****! I'd like to get my hands on that version just to see how badly it is. But buying it now is impossible to tell 'cause they all have the same cover. Do you happen to have it?

Yes, I have both copies and the original one is exceedingly bad in comparison.

As for finding the original one, it's easy to tell the difference using just the cover itself as seen below. That, and 99.9% of copies of Collection 0:1 that are sold by itself (i.e. not together with the other 7 volumes) are of the original pressing.

Original DVD (2000) ---------------------- Re-release DVD (2002)

[kk1]

Ha I have that pos, I finally upgraded in December during the RS sale when they had the Platinum col vol1 for $1 or something

[Xtempo]

got the same day {rest of pics in the gallery}

[CouncilSpectre]

What happened to the original film? Not really like the Japanese to lose something so important. I'm sure there's always one eye on future home media when they're producing anime assets, but even more so with something as marketable as Eva - everyone knew it was going to be huge when it first came out.

Disappointing, but at this point unavoidable and does nothing to dampen my enthusiasm

[BigOnAnime]

Originally Posted by CouncilSpectre

What happened to the original film? Not really like the Japanese to lose something so important. I'm sure there's always one eye on future home media when they're producing anime assets, but even more so with something as marketable as Eva - everyone knew it was going to be huge when it first came out.

Disappointing, but at this point unavoidable and does nothing to dampen my enthusiasm

Actually from what I've heard (Though I can't verify the info), Gainax was worried that Eva was going to bankrupt them.

Anyway, unfortunately many times the Japanese don't take care of the film to many shows very well. Hell just ask Toei Animation, who has apparently in the past left cels right in sunlight. This I think can be seen in one of the DBZ BD documentaries, can't remember where I was first shown that.

Also...

[CouncilSpectre]

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

Actually from what I've heard (Though I can't verify the info), Gainax was worried that Eva was going to bankrupt them.

Anyway, unfortunately many times the Japanese don't take care of the film to many shows very well. Hell just ask Toei Animation, who has apparently in the past left cels right in sunlight. This I think can be seen in one of the DBZ BD documentaries, can't remember where I was first shown that.

Also...

Thanks for that

Disappointing. I can perhaps see how that would be the case in the 70s and 80s but I'd have thought that by 90s they'd have had a better grasp of how important the original assets might have been, but clearly not, or certainly not across the board at least.

Oh well, luckily, with Eva, it's not a *huge* problem.

[svenge]

Originally Posted by CouncilSpectre

Disappointing. I can perhaps see how that would be the case in the 70s and 80s but I'd have thought that by 90s they'd have had a better grasp of how important the original assets might have been, but clearly not, or certainly not across the board at least.

It's not like Gainax was a huge, well-run company at the time. Gainax circa 1995 was still in many ways just Daicon Film with a bigger budget, lacking a rigid corporate culture and/or administrative infrastructure.

[Yami]

Originally Posted by svenge

Which is not really a surprise, as even for the 2003 Renewal DVD set they had to resort to an 35mm internegative source for that episode as the original 16mm negatives were lost.

I'm no Robert Harris, but couldn't they have done a new HD scan of the interneg or did they junk that after making the SD master?

[svenge]

Originally Posted by Yami

I'm no Robert Harris, but couldn't they have done a new HD scan of the interneg or did they junk that after making the SD master?

If we're very lucky, the booklet that comes with the Blu-ray box may address that.

Here's a LINK to what Gainax said in the booklets for the Platinum/Renewal DVDs regarding remastering the footage back in 2003...

[takkun]

Originally Posted by svenge

If we're very lucky, the booklet that comes with the Blu-ray box may address that.

Here's a LINK to what Gainax said in the booklets for the Platinum/Renewal DVDs regarding remastering the footage back in 2003...

The Minna no Eva Fan site mentions that the latest Newtype issue has an article about the BD restoration. It may possibly cover the episode 16 restoration but the photo is too blurry to read any part of the main article.
http://blog-imgs-79.fc2.com/n/e/w/ne..._9_e_02301.jpg

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by CouncilSpectre

Not really like the Japanese to lose something so important.

This made me laugh.

[Thomas Guycott]

I wish it was already the 29th: this is one of a few releases I've had killer anticipation for.

[javac]

Commercials:
Footage from the Blu-rays, but these vids are SD.

新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Blu-ray BOX告知Type A

新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Blu-ray BOX告知Type B

新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Blu-ray BOX告知Type C

新世紀エヴァンゲリオン Blu-ray BOX告知Type EX.

TV series:

BD 50GB/1080p/color/4:3/5.1 channel linear PCM/2-channel linear PCM/mpeg4AVC/subtitles for the hearing impaired

Movies:

BD 50GB/1080p (except on some material)/color/16:9/2-channel linear PCM/mpeg4AVC

[Sylontack]

Only a few days left. This better be worth it, first time I'm blind buying a Blu-Ray box with no good sample of how it looks in HD .

The quicker I have HD footage for screenshots, the quicker I can finish what I have planned for the covers I'll be housing the remuxed (assuming I can pull it off) discs with though so I'm excited on that front. Slightly regretting shipping it with Mai Hime due to the sheer blow it will land on my bank account (as my work contract finished one week earlier than I had planned so I don't have the amount of cash money I had been hoping for).

[svenge]

Originally Posted by Sylontack

Only a few days left. This better be worth it, first time I'm blind buying a Blu-Ray box with no good sample of how it looks in HD :p.

That is the one thing that baffles me regarding the Eva BD box. Back in 2003 during the build-up towards the "Renewal" DVD box set, Gainax / King Records released the "01 Test-Type" DVD containing the finished version of the first episode a full 3 months before the box itself was put on sale. This time there's no previews, hardly any information on Newtype, nothing much at all except a list of specs and bonus features.

I had half a mind to keep my incoming copy sealed until there's a consensus regarding its quality, but there's no other way to get the original theatrical version of Evangelion:Death (which was a "holy grail" for many Eva fans for 15 years now) so there's really no choice for me...

[takkun]

Originally Posted by svenge

That is the one thing that baffles me regarding the Eva BD box. Back in 2003 during the build-up towards the "Renewal" DVD box set, Gainax / King Records released the "01 Test-Type" DVD containing the finished version of the first episode a full 3 months before the box itself was put on sale. This time there's no previews, hardly any information on Newtype, nothing much at all except a list of specs and bonus features.

I had half a mind to keep my incoming copy sealed until there's a consensus regarding its quality, but there's no other way to get the original theatrical version of Evangelioneath (which was a "holy grail" for many Eva fans for 15 years now) so there's really no choice for me...

If you can read Japanese, there is a great interview with The Sony PCL members that worked on the DVD and BD restoration. They are the same team that worked on the 2003 box as well as the Renewal releases so if you liked that release, you'll probably like this one. I'll try to post highlights later but it took them 3-4 days to color correct each episode from the telecine frame by frame using the notes from the 2003 restoration (started in 2001), but they also discovered a lot of new issues with going HD, such as Ritsuko's eyebrows, so they had to speak with King Records and former (?) Gainax members about how to correct things or leave them alone. Definitely reads like a labor love. The project took five years to complete. Also covers the TV broadcast version and how neither King Records nor Tokyo TV really knew which tapes were the original broadcast (a Sony PCL member had VHS copies of the original broadcast so they used that to compare against).

http://route2015.evastore.jp/interview/05/

[Oniros]

Originally Posted by javac

Commercials:
Footage from the Blu-rays, but these vids are SD.

Then, what's the ****ing point? This marketing is horrid.

[n00bsaib0t]

Originally Posted by Sylontack

Only a few days left. This better be worth it, first time I'm blind buying a Blu-Ray box with no good sample of how it looks in HD .

The quicker I have HD footage for screenshots, the quicker I can finish what I have planned for the covers I'll be housing the remuxed (assuming I can pull it off) discs with though so I'm excited on that front. Slightly regretting shipping it with Mai Hime due to the sheer blow it will land on my bank account (as my work contract finished one week earlier than I had planned so I don't have the amount of cash money I had been hoping for).

So I'm doing something similar. I'm extracting the subtitles that are found in the Platinum Collection done by ADV. My concern, however, is with the timing of the subs. I'm hoping the BD's will synch up with the ADV DVD's. What approach are you taking? I've never had to do anything like this before, but it's NGE...so yeah.