Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread - Page 18 - Blu-ray Forum

Ruined · 03-21-2018, 12:08 AM

Did a sneak preview of THTV tonight.

Those color fluctuations people are talking about, I watched in slow motion and to my guess would be this film had mold all over it that was cleaned off, but mold damaged some of the film over time prior to removal.

This is not a sterling presentation but not terrible either. I have seen far, far worse code red titles. Given the rarity of the flick probably best its ever looked on home video. It is actually very highly detailed despite a lot of damage to the element.

Drive in mode, I was not pleased chaos was mixed in with the 70s trailers. I understand need to cross market but it just doesn't fit that great. Otherwise pretty good idea I'd like to see enhanced further.

WoodyO · 03-21-2018, 01:04 AM

Holy shit, we're still talking about this same release?

ScorpionReleasing · 03-21-2018, 01:24 AM

I know who really owns this film and I do know that a couple of well-respected genre labels are speaking with them on releasing the correct version for awhile now, I can't say anymore but I could tell you that this disc is not going to be worth anything in a few month

Marsupial Werewolf · 03-21-2018, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ScorpionReleasing

I know who really owns this film and I do know that a couple of well-respected genre labels are speaking with them on releasing the correct version for awhile now, I can't say anymore but I could tell you that this disc is not going to be worth anything in a few month

This keeps getting better and better.

frakking toaster · 03-21-2018, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ScorpionReleasing

I know who really owns this film and I do know that a couple of well-respected genre labels are speaking with them on releasing the correct version for awhile now, I can't say anymore but I could tell you that this disc is not going to be worth anything in a few month

Has to be arrow. They have a couple of Larraz titles in the pipeline.

babybreese · 03-21-2018, 01:53 AM

Well, that is really good news Walt.
Makes spending $20 on a magnet a little less tangy.

ScorpionReleasing · 03-21-2018, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by babybreese

Well, that is really good news Walt.
Makes spending $20 on a magnet a little less tangy.

why would anybody want a Damon packet magnet anyway or even Sage Stallone I mean do you even have permission from his estate? plus I've never seen anyone praise the magnet I bet it looks like crap

GilaFilms · 03-21-2018, 02:18 AM

Jesse Nelson at Diabolik mentioned he knew someone who owned three prints of THTV and two of them ran under 90 minutes. Since the presskit states the US release runtime is approximately 99 minutes, the best possible argument to be made for Dark Force's source material is that a regional distributor trimmed the film to under 90 minutes to allow it to play on double or triple bills. Even then, it would not have been an authorized alternate cut...just something done on a regional level.

The Great Owl · 03-21-2018, 02:43 AM

I'm still going to keep this double feature because of The Eerie Midnight Horror Show, but I'll definitely be following the updates regarding a proper release of The House That Vanished with great interest.

NoirFan · 03-21-2018, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ScorpionReleasing

I could tell you that this disc is not going to be worth anything in a few month

Doubtless Dork Farce will still sell a few copies at $50 a pop billed as a ‘super-rare collectible!!!’ bundled with CHUD 2 sticker pak and autographed photo of the Budweiser ‘Wazzup’ Guys.

Thomas Irwin · 03-21-2018, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruined

Maybe the whole set of magnets? I only have THTV [emoji848]

I thought they might give you your own, like Damon Packard. But you probably are due some compensation for your sleuthing in light of their unsanctioned use of your post.

Marsupial Werewolf · 03-21-2018, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ScorpionReleasing

why would anybody want a Damon packet magnet anyway or even Sage Stallone I mean do you even have permission from his estate? plus I've never seen anyone praise the magnet I bet it looks like crap

Walt’s rage is the cleansing fire this thread needs.

Blu Titan · 03-21-2018, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsupial Werewolf

Walt’s rage is the cleansing fire this thread needs.

Walt is a credible industry insider. Does things the right way.

Ruined · 03-21-2018, 05:53 AM

Looks like all of the initial releases are getting re-released cover art with numbered spines.

Offerings arrived from Amazon to me with the old cover...

Meh, who cares. Does anyone really care about this or seriously commit to collecting a perfect 100% of a label's output where a numbered spine would matter?

Ruined · 03-21-2018, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I'm still going to keep this double feature because of The Eerie Midnight Horror Show, but I'll definitely be following the updates regarding a proper release of The House That Vanished with great interest.

Many a releases are planned but some that are planned end up never seeing the light of day due to rights issues or financial issues. Definitely keeping my THTV disc until completely superceded by an all around better version, if/when that might be.

Ruined · 03-21-2018, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Irwin

I thought they might give you your own, like Damon Packard. But you probably are due some compensation for your sleuthing in light of their unsanctioned use of your post.

Signed Banana Man magnet?

Thomas Irwin · 03-21-2018, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruined

Looks like all of the initial releases are getting re-released cover art with numbered spines.

Offerings arrived from Amazon to me with the old cover...

Meh, who cares. Does anyone really care about this or seriously commit to collecting a perfect 100% of a label's output where a numbered spine would matter?

From the Criterion thread.

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Originally Posted by StarDestroyer52

And well lets talk about how I envy this dude:

https://imgur.com/a/oiapB

Ruined · 03-21-2018, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Irwin

From the Criterion thread.

More jealous of the nifty custom shelving than the collection

I dunno despite having a ridiculous amount of movies I've never felt I needed to have every single release and cover/spine of any label - and I don't sort by label because its a pain to find anything in a large collection that way.

Thomas Irwin · 03-21-2018, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruined

More jealous of the nifty custom shelving than the collection

I dunno despite having a ridiculous amount of movies I've never felt I needed to have every single release and cover/spine of any label - and I don't sort by label because its a pain to find anything in a large collection that way.

That's what I desperately want, some better shelving. I kept up with Vinegar Syndrome for a while, and grabbed most of the early Code Red and Scorpion releases, but it quickly got to be too much. The only thing I didn't miss a single one of was Ascot Elite's hardbox releases of all the Jess Franco and Erwin Dietrich films that they did them for. All limited to 66 copies each. That was some serious stress and a definite financial burden at often inconvenient times. I'm glad to have them, but I certainly won't do anything like that again.

dawnofthediscs · 03-21-2018, 09:47 AM

Not sure if this has been mentioned

Per the Dark Force Entertainment FB...

Zsolt Farkas
“You could also just not pull the release and let people buy it if you want them to sell. This whole situation seems kind of unnecessary, who cares if people ***** that it's cut wouldn't you prefer the product to sell regardless?”

Dark Force Entertainment
“It's not getting repressed like the other titles and we want to keep a good amount of them for ourselves

True scalper behavior.

Creating a scarcity and then selling them for an inflated price.

Disgusting tactics

I hope nobody buys this bullshit

03-21-2018, 12:08 AM	#341
Ruined Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	Did a sneak preview of THTV tonight. Those color fluctuations people are talking about, I watched in slow motion and to my guess would be this film had mold all over it that was cleaned off, but mold damaged some of the film over time prior to removal. This is not a sterling presentation but not terrible either. I have seen far, far worse code red titles. Given the rarity of the flick probably best its ever looked on home video. It is actually very highly detailed despite a lot of damage to the element. Drive in mode, I was not pleased chaos was mixed in with the 70s trailers. I understand need to cross market but it just doesn't fit that great. Otherwise pretty good idea I'd like to see enhanced further. Last edited by Ruined; 03-21-2018 at 12:15 AM.

03-21-2018, 01:04 AM	#342
WoodyO Banned Member since:Nov 2010 Blu-ray collection:319 Trading Score:1	Holy shit, we're still talking about this same release?

03-21-2018, 01:24 AM	#343
ScorpionReleasing Scorpion Releasing Insider Member since:Aug 2012	I know who really owns this film and I do know that a couple of well-respected genre labels are speaking with them on releasing the correct version for awhile now, I can't say anymore but I could tell you that this disc is not going to be worth anything in a few month

03-21-2018, 01:53 AM	#346
babybreese Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Blu-ray collection:304	Well, that is really good news Walt. Makes spending $20 on a magnet a little less tangy.

03-21-2018, 02:18 AM	#348
GilaFilms Banned Member since:Aug 2016	Jesse Nelson at Diabolik mentioned he knew someone who owned three prints of THTV and two of them ran under 90 minutes. Since the presskit states the US release runtime is approximately 99 minutes, the best possible argument to be made for Dark Force's source material is that a regional distributor trimmed the film to under 90 minutes to allow it to play on double or triple bills. Even then, it would not have been an authorized alternate cut...just something done on a regional level.

03-21-2018, 02:43 AM	#349
The Great Owl Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2012 Location:Georgia 4K collection:921 Blu-ray collection:6031 DVD collection:28 Blu-ray reviews: 255 Trading Score:6	I'm still going to keep this double feature because of The Eerie Midnight Horror Show, but I'll definitely be following the updates regarding a proper release of The House That Vanished with great interest.

03-21-2018, 05:53 AM	#354
Ruined Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	Looks like all of the initial releases are getting re-released cover art with numbered spines. Offerings arrived from Amazon to me with the old cover... Meh, who cares. Does anyone really care about this or seriously commit to collecting a perfect 100% of a label's output where a numbered spine would matter?

03-21-2018, 09:47 AM	#360
dawnofthediscs Power Member Member since:Nov 2017 4K collection:105 Blu-ray collection:1570 DVD collection:25	Not sure if this has been mentioned Per the Dark Force Entertainment FB... Zsolt Farkas “You could also just not pull the release and let people buy it if you want them to sell. This whole situation seems kind of unnecessary, who cares if people ***** that it's cut wouldn't you prefer the product to sell regardless?” Dark Force Entertainment “It's not getting repressed like the other titles and we want to keep a good amount of them for ourselves True scalper behavior. Creating a scarcity and then selling them for an inflated price. Disgusting tactics I hope nobody buys this bullshit

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