Star Wars Film Series - From Game of Thrones Producers

[ManOfTheForest]

Originally Posted by HockeySlasher

I don't think you can hang the Boba Fett/Josh Trank problems on Lucasfilm/KK.

Once the rumors started to come out about Trank's issues while making Fantastic Four, I'm not surprised he was told to take a walk from Star Wars.

We don't know the conversation that was actually had between Kennedy and Trank. It seems the situation was at the stage Trank could not go on but I'd imagine he was shown more compassion than "walk away".

Treverow wasn't a big issue either. I hear he couldn't work out how to deal with Leia in the story/that he was a jerk to deal with/etc. but his departure is not unlike other filmmakers on other projects.

I've read differing reports on what Gilroy said of his involvement but I think he said Disney didn't know what they wanted from Rogue One. I think Edwards just didn't know how to deal with that. What has become of him since then?

The one I don't get was Lord & Miller. From what I read they seem to have behaved like moody teenagers when Kasdan came to the UK. They followed his wishes when he was on set but when he left they'd reshoot everything. Then took to locking themselves away. I know the producer was very ill but did Lucasfilm not have someone to take over?

Lucasfilm and Disney are too precious with the behind the scenes stories. I want the making of books and behind the scenes features on the home releases to have all of these stories.

[HockeySlasher]

Originally Posted by Thebunk

Name one other high profile franchise that has had this many firings (Lord/Miller, Trevarrow, Trank), people quit (Benihoff/Weiss) and/or need “help” (Edwards) within the span of 6 years.

Marvel replaced two actors - Edward Norton and Terrance Howard; fired at least one director - Patty Jenkins (Thor 2); and had a "creative differences" breakup with another director - Edgar Wright (Ant-Man).

And, as I said previously, I don't think anyone can really blame Trank's firing on Lucasfilm/Disney/KK. His rumored behavior on set while directing FF is what led to his firing from Star Wars.

The only really bad firing is was Lord/Miller.

[Connoralpha]

Originally Posted by Thebunk

Name one other high profile franchise that has had this many firings (Lord/Miller, Trevarrow, Trank), people quit (Benihoff/Weiss) and/or need “help” (Edwards) within the span of 6 years.

Probably because Star Wars is an insanely difficult series to make. Always has been.

GL tried to get Spielberg, Ron Howard and Robert Zemeckis to do the prequels and they all said no because of how daunting it was.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Kathleen Kennedy's leadership sucks.

[ManOfTheForest]

Originally Posted by HockeySlasher

Marvel replaced two actors - Edward Norton and Terrance Howard; fired at least one director - Patty Jenkins (Thor 2); and had a "creative differences" breakup with another director - Edgar Wright (Ant-Man).

And, as I said previously, I don't think anyone can really blame Trank's firing on Lucasfilm/Disney/KK. His rumored behavior on set while directing FF is what led to his firing from Star Wars.

The only really bad firing is was Lord/Miller.

I believe Trank has mental health problems - OCD & social awkwardness I think. That seems to have been what was described at the time so I think maybe it can't blamed on him either.

[ManOfTheForest]

Originally Posted by Connoralpha

Probably because Star Wars is an insanely difficult series to make. Always has been.

GL tried to get Spielberg, Ron Howard and Robert Zemeckis to do the prequels and they all said no because of how daunting it was.

Is it?

[ManOfTheForest]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Kathleen Kennedy's leadership sucks.

Very profound but you supply far too much detail for reader to grasp.

Try a little brevity.

[HockeySlasher]

Originally Posted by Connoralpha

Probably because Star Wars is an insanely difficult series to make. Always has been.

GL tried to get Spielberg, Ron Howard and Robert Zemeckis to do the prequels and they all said no because of how daunting it was.

And maybe the read his scripts and thought better of it. /sarcasm

[Guydowood]

Since Kathleen Kennedy took over at Lucasfilm

• Josh Trank (Fired)
• Phil Lord & Chris Miller (Fired: 'Solo')
• Gareth Edwards (Replaced for reshoots)
• James Mangold (Boba Fett film canned)
• Colin Trevorrow (Fired: 'Episode IX')
• David Benioff & DB Weiss (Exits trilogy)

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[Det. Bullock]

Originally Posted by whiteberry

It's not going to happen now...they walked away from the project:

https://deadline.com/2019/10/star-wa...gy-1202771184/

Paging Ron Howard...

Wow, we dodged a bullet. I guess that once they started working at Lucasfilm they couldn't not notice they were hacks.

Originally Posted by Guydowood

Since Kathleen Kennedy took over at Lucasfilm

• Josh Trank (Fired)
• Phil Lord & Chris Miller (Fired: 'Solo')
• Gareth Edwards (Replaced for reshoots)
• James Mangold (Boba Fett film canned)
• Colin Trevorrow (Fired: 'Episode IX')
• David Benioff & DB Weiss (Exits trilogy)

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Yeah, except Lord & Miller got fired because of Lawrence Kasdan (Solo was basically HIS movie) and Trank because he had a spectacular meltdown on the Fant4stic set. Also Trevorrow and D&D are hacks that got a good reputation for a while.

The Boba Fett film has probably been canned in the context of the general scrapping of spin off films after Solo tanked, at the moment the only legitimate case is Gareth Edwards and I've heard so much contradictory stuff about what happened with that movie.

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Kathleen Kennedy's leadership sucks.

Feige has a similar story of firings and stuff like that, especially during phase one. It's just that with Star Wars we hear it more because it's Star Wars.

[Darkstream]

I wonder if Lucasfilm will still continue on with The Old Republic as a film trilogy?

Maybe The Russo Brothers have interest.

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Problematic productions:

Tin Can (Boba Fett) - Josh Trank
Rogue One - Garreth Edwards
Episode IX - Colin Trevorrow
Solo - Phil Lord and Christopher Miller

Obi-Wan is different, not a production issue only changes in overall Lucasfilm plan.

Originally Posted by Guydowood

Since Kathleen Kennedy took over at Lucasfilm

• Josh Trank (Fired)
• Phil Lord & Chris Miller (Fired: 'Solo')
• Gareth Edwards (Replaced for reshoots)
• James Mangold (Boba Fett film canned)
• Colin Trevorrow (Fired: 'Episode IX')
• David Benioff & DB Weiss (Exits trilogy)

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Minus Boba Fett (which was never confirmed and was only talked about), all the other films have been a massive success. Though one could say Solo was Lucasfilm/Kennedy’s one true financial loss.

Everything else is just hot air, blown out of proportion, hyperbolic reactions from anti-Disney Star Wars folks.

[Darth Marcus]

Rian Johnson is about to have a lot of free time on his hands after the press tour of Knives Out ends...

[NARMAK]

I'd love if somebody can change the title now that Dumb & Dumber are out the picture. Good riddance. They screwed up another franchise (GoT) just to try work on other things faster like freed asshats and now got their fingers burned. Hopefully Netflix drops them next.

These morons were interviewed as saying that GoT was a massive and expensive "writing school" for them and how they "didn't know better" about bringing on more writers. Seriously glad they're going BUT i thinm Star Wars has despite financial success suffered with some of the new trilogy even amongst fans.

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by Darth Marcus

Rian Johnson is about to have a lot of free time on his hands after the press tour of Knives Out ends...

[CreasyBear]

Originally Posted by jayman3

Minus Boba Fett (which was never confirmed and was only talked about), all the other films have been a massive success. Though one could say Solo was Lucasfilm/Kennedy’s one true financial loss.

Everything else is just hot air, blown out of proportion, hyperbolic reactions from anti-Disney Star Wars folks.

There's no questioning that Solo was a massive flop, the first in the Star Wars series. Because of that, the Kenobi movie is now a show, which could work to their advantage, giving them more time to develop the story, but still, Kennedy has not done a good job. None of this kind of crap happened when Lucas was in charge. Chalk it up to a lack of planning and poor management.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by ManOfTheForest

Very profound but you supply far too much detail for reader to grasp.

Try a little brevity.

He said alls he needs to. She sucks. Period.

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

There's no questioning that Solo was a massive flop, the first in the Star Wars series. Because of that, the Kenobi movie is now a show, which could work to their advantage, giving them more time to develop the story, but still, Kennedy has not done a good job. None of this kind of crap happened when Lucas was in charge. Chalk it up to a lack of planning and poor management.

Yeah. Shit happens. Things get reworked. You could say the planned Obi-Wan movie (long rumored) was then changed to a TV series. Or Josh Trank/James Mangold Boba Fett projects were reworked into what became The Mandalorian.

I think it has to do with creative control. When George Lucas was in charge he had full creative control over whatever he was financing and directing his own movies.

But now, Star Wars is being run like any other Disney film division. A factory assembly line of movie releases. Which may cause for disagreement from the commander (Kennedy) and the directors.

[bferr1972]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

There's no questioning that Solo was a massive flop, the first in the Star Wars series. Because of that, the Kenobi movie is now a show, which could work to their advantage, giving them more time to develop the story, but still, Kennedy has not done a good job. None of this kind of crap happened when Lucas was in charge. Chalk it up to a lack of planning and poor management.

You're partially right in that Lucas was largely focused solely on Saga movies, not spin-off movies, and not TV series except near the end of his ownership. So, he had a narrower, more concentrated focus than Kathleen Kennedy does now. You're partially wrong because Lucas was developing a live-action television series called Star Wars Underworld around the same time The Clone Wars animated series was in production. The show was announced in 2005, fifty scripts were written, and the show got as far as the pre-production stage before being put on hold in 2010 due to budget concerns.

I wonder if elements of Underworld were repurposed for Solo, Rogue One and Rebels?

[mikeyfridebuzz]

If this is another case of (insert established filmmaker's name here) not being on the same page with Kathleen Kennedy's version of Star Wars, then she should just have loyal sycophants like Pablo Hidalgo and Chuck Wendig direct her movies from now on.