Fantastic Four (2015)

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

I loved the first two films because they perfectly captured the tone of the Fantastic Four comics. Wish Fantastic Four 3 got made instead of this film.

The only FF comic I've ever read is "Fantastic Four 1-2-3-4" and that was only because it was written by Morrison. And I'd read anything by Grant.

So, I wasn't really familiar with the style of the stories when I saw the first movie. I thought it was OK, but sort of flawed.

[Cook]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Age be damned, that mantra is probably how we got a Reed Richards that looks like he's still in high school.

You're not around many teenagers are you? Miles Teller does not look like a 14-17 year old.

[toddly6666]

I SAW A PREVIEW SCREENING! A++++

Galactus! Super Skrull! Holy crap!!!!!!!

[DisneyBlu]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

I SAW A PREVIEW SCREENING! A++++

Galactus! Super Skrull! Holy crap!!!!!!!

k.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Cook

You're not around many teenagers are you? Miles Teller does not look like a 14-17 year old.

No, he looks 25 or so...but that's still way too young for Reed.

[DisneyBlu]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCCZA4oyY2o

[trans8010]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I actively do not want the X-Men and Avengers universes to merge. I know it's that way in the comics, but for the movies I think it works best having them apart. For one thing the tone for each is very different in my opinion, and for another I think any other superhero origin loses meaning and reason when mutants exist.

X-Men doesnt even make sense in the Marvel Comics Universe. The Fantastic Four who achieve their powers purely by accident are well loved across the spectrum, as are any of the heroes usually given their powers by accident (aside from Spider-Man and Hulk) but the X-Men because they're labeled as mutants and had their abilities since birth are ostracized and hunted down like dogs. It simply doesnt make sense.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by trans8010

X-Men doesnt even make sense in the Marvel Comics Universe. The Fantastic Four who achieve their powers purely by accident are well loved across the spectrum, as are any of the heroes usually given their powers by accident (aside from Spider-Man and Hulk) but the X-Men because they're labeled as mutants and had their abilities since birth are ostracized and hunted down like dogs. It simply doesnt make sense.

Spider-Man and the Hulk have their detractors as well, especially the Hulk who has his own team or the military after him at times.

[slainery]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

I loved the first two films because they perfectly captured the tone of the Fantastic Four comics. Wish Fantastic Four 3 got made instead of this film.

Same.

I know that they are rather weak story-wise as separate films, but watching them back-to-back makes them much better. Also, bar Jessica Alba creepy look, the casting was spot on.

Funnily enough, I think the previous films would fit perfectly with the Marvel Studios releases and that a lot less people would've been mad had they been released under a Phase 1/2 banner.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCCZA4oyY2o

THAT's what the film needs to be like. It needs that tone, instead of the dark/gritty they've gone for.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by slainery

Same.

I know that they are rather weak story-wise as separate films, but watching them back-to-back makes them much better. Also, bar Jessica Alba creepy look, the casting was spot on.

Funnily enough, I think the previous films would fit perfectly with the Marvel Studios releases and that a lot less people would've been mad had they been released under a Phase 1/2 banner.

Agreed. I could imagine them slotted inbetween Iron Man and Iron Man 2.

[Infernal King]

Originally Posted by slainery

Same.

I know that they are rather weak story-wise as separate films, but watching them back-to-back makes them much better. Also, bar Jessica Alba creepy look, the casting was spot on.

Funnily enough, I think the previous films would fit perfectly with the Marvel Studios releases and that a lot less people would've been mad had they been released under a Phase 1/2 banner.

I agree but maybe not for the same reason. I think the first two Fantastic Four movies are a lot closer in quality to most of the MCU than the fanboys would like to admit. That is, Disney-Marvel makes sanitized, assembly line products for children.

Put the Marvel Studios logo in front of these movies and you'd have the fanboys defending them as much as they defend anything else from Disney-Marvel.

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

THAT's what the film needs to be like. It needs that tone, instead of the dark/gritty they've gone for.

I'm so glad you are not in charge of making this movie.

[pikeman1]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

I SAW A PREVIEW SCREENING! A++++

Galactus! Super Skrull! Holy crap!!!!!!!

[DisneyBlu]

Originally Posted by slainery

Same.

I know that they are rather weak story-wise as separate films, but watching them back-to-back makes them much better. Also, bar Jessica Alba creepy look, the casting was spot on.

Funnily enough, I think the previous films would fit perfectly with the Marvel Studios releases and that a lot less people would've been mad had they been released under a Phase 1/2 banner.

Alba was the worst casting of the four. She was cast because she was the hot it girl at the time, not because she could portray the character well. She looked like a Barbie doll and she was playing one, too.

Definitely not the Susan Storm I know, and far from being spot on, in my eyes. I respect your opinion, of course - just had to disagree on the Alba bit.

Evans and Chiklis were pretty perfect in their roles. Especially Evans as Johnny. He nailed it perfectly. Gruffudd was okay as Reed; he lacked that respectable, stern leader quality that Mr. Fantastic has. Alba was just terrible. She was the "*****y girlfriend" and nothing more. She wasn't given much to do in both movies, except "look pretty and oh yeah, we wrote in that you have to take your clothes off. In both movies. Because it's essential to the plot... the film completely falls apart without those scenes." Part of it is Alba, but part of the blame belongs to the writers and the director.

The Fantastic Four haven't been done entirely right yet. I do believe that Marvel Studios would make the perfect Fantastic Four film. They can turn former B-listers like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, the Guardians of the Galaxy (and Ant-Man is next) into A-listers, they would do the same with the very rich Fantastic Four material. And I have no doubt that Marvel would have given us the "actual" Fantastic Four. We'd have an older, mature Reed. We'd have an older, mature Invisible Woman. How many comic book movies have a woman in her forties as a superhero? Or a mom? That would be cool to see. Susan Richards is one of the best female characters Marvel has and I feel like Marvel is the only studio who would do an older Sue.

Fox is content casting a young, hot blonde as the main female lead because kids and teens would react in horror if one of the main characters in a movie is over twenty years old. That's why those Iron Man movies all flopped terribly, with senile old man Tony Stark, who definitely isn't popular at all.

Sorry, didn't meant to stray too far from the topic. I just think "Susan Richards, super mom" would be infinitely more interesting to see than "Sue Storm, twenty something hot blonde" that we see in most movies. And yet Fox is giving that to us for the third time.

[Infernal King]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

Alba was the worst casting of the four. She was cast because she was the hot it girl at the time, not because she could portray the character well. She looked like a Barbie doll and she was playing one, too.

Definitely not the Susan Storm I know, and far from being spot on, in my eyes. I respect your opinion, of course - just had to disagree on the Alba bit.

Evans and Chiklis were pretty perfect in their roles. Especially Evans as Johnny. He nailed it perfectly. Gruffudd was okay as Reed; he lacked that respectable, stern leader quality that Mr. Fantastic has. Alba was just terrible. She was the "*****y girlfriend" and nothing more. She wasn't given much to do in both movies, except "look pretty and oh yeah, we wrote in that you have to take your clothes off. In both movies. Because it's essential to the plot... the film completely falls apart without those scenes." Part of it is Alba, but part of the blame belongs to the writers and the director.

The Fantastic Four haven't been done entirely right yet. I do believe that Marvel Studios would make the perfect Fantastic Four film. They can turn former B-listers like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, the Guardians of the Galaxy (and Ant-Man is next) into A-listers, they would do the same with the very rich Fantastic Four material. And I have no doubt that Marvel would have given us the "actual" Fantastic Four. We'd have an older, mature Reed. We'd have an older, mature Invisible Woman. How many comic book movies have a woman in her forties as a superhero? Or a mom? That would be cool to see. Susan Richards is one of the best female characters Marvel has and I feel like Marvel is the only studio who would do an older Sue.

Fox is content casting a young, hot blonde as the main female lead because kids and teens would react in horror if one of the main characters in a movie is over twenty years old. That's why those Iron Man movies all flopped terribly, with senile old man Tony Stark, who definitely isn't popular at all.

Sorry, didn't meant to stray too far from the topic. I just think "Susan Richards, super mom" would be infinitely more interesting to see than "Sue Storm, twenty something hot blonde" that we see in most movies. And yet Fox is giving that to us for the third time.

If Disney-Marvel actually cast a woman in her 40s to play that part, I'd commend them. They've cast mostly younger or youngish women so far in their movies, though.

[octagon]

Kate Mara is neither blonde nor twenty-something. She is pretty hot though so I guess there's that.

[DisneyBlu]

Originally Posted by octagon

Kate Mara is neither blonde nor twenty-something. She is pretty hot though so I guess there's that.

Her character in this movie is a blonde in her early 20s.

[octagon]

True, I don't know why I thought her hair was darker in the trailers but it's definitely not. Maybe I was thinking of the interview clips or something.

edit: I'm curious, would you have been okay with a non-blonde Sue Storm even though that would have been a departure from the comics?

[GC Riot]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

How many comic book movies have a woman in her forties as a superhero? Or a mom? That would be cool to see.

This I'd really like to see.

[JeffTheMovieGuy]

Originally Posted by octagon

True, I don't know why I thought her hair was darker in the trailers but it's definitely not. Maybe I was thinking of the interview clips or something.

edit: I'm curious, would you have been okay with a non-blonde Sue Storm even though that would have been a departure from the comics?

I would have been more okay with that back when Jessica Alba had the role.