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View Poll Results: Which school will win the CFP National Championship game?
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:17 PM   #3681
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It's not uncommon for top-tier coaches. Kirk Ferentz is signed through 2020 at Iowa. Nick Saban has an eight-year contract at Alabama. Gary Patterson just signed an extension through 2018 at TCU. It happens in basketball too. Last year Butler coach Brad Stevens signed a contract extension through 2021-22, and Northern Iowa coach Ben Jacobson signed an extension through 2020.
Charlie Weis at Notre Dame was a big disaster. I think Notre Dame had to pay a good chunk of that long contract when they fired him.

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On October 29, 2005, barely halfway through the first year of a six-year contract, and with only a 5–2 record, Weis signed a contract extension with Notre Dame. The new 10-year deal, which began with the 2006 season, and which was to be worth a reported $30–40 million, would keep Weis at Notre Dame through 2015.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:50 AM   #3682
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Hey toxsic. You're an Auburn fan so maybe you can fill me in. How many starters are they going to lose going into next season? I believe they have some major losses, in addition to Cam Newton, wh i doubt will return for another year.
sorry for being so late responding to this Chad, i haven't checked in on this thread in a few days.

i'm not exactly sure who all the starters are considered because we rotate so many people in and out on both sides of the ball. i do know that 4 of our OL are gone, they're part of the 22 seniors that we're losing. cam declared yesterday and i'm pretty sure fairley is declaring today. so that's at least 24 people that we're losing, not taking into account if any of the other underclassmen like darvin adams declares.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:47 PM   #3683
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sorry for being so late responding to this Chad, i haven't checked in on this thread in a few days.

i'm not exactly sure who all the starters are considered because we rotate so many people in and out on both sides of the ball. i do know that 4 of our OL are gone, they're part of the 22 seniors that we're losing. cam declared yesterday and i'm pretty sure fairley is declaring today. so that's at least 24 people that we're losing, not taking into account if any of the other underclassmen like darvin adams declares.
the point here is, enjoy the 2010 success cause 2011 = looooong year for auburn
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:39 PM   #3684
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the point here is, enjoy the 2010 success cause 2011 = looooong year for auburn
Another crazy thing is I doubt any other states could go back to back championships in this current system, the Bama did.


ESPN just said Auburn will lose 14 starters.

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Old 01-14-2011, 08:15 PM   #3685
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Another crazy thing is I doubt any other states could go back to back championships in this current system, the Bama did.


ESPN just said Auburn will lose 14 starters.
It's very rare. I went back the past couple decades just to see how many repeat national championships there have been and the number is very few. Only 4 times since 1975 has a repeat happened. USC came the closest to 3 straight when they lost to Texas in the 2005 title game on a last second Vince Young TD.

USC - 2003, 2004 (and the 2003 was a split nat'l championship with LSU)
Nebrasha - 1994, 1995 (And 1994 was controversial as Penn St. was arguably a better team)
Alabama - 1978, 1979 (1978 was a split national title)
Oklahoma - 1974, 1975 (1974 was a split championship)
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:34 PM   #3686
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Miami would have won back-to-back titles in 2001-2002 if the ref didn't throw the flag in the first overtime of the 2003 Fiesta Bowl.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:48 PM   #3687
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Miami would have won back-to-back titles in 2001-2002 if the ref didn't throw the flag in the first overtime of the 2003 Fiesta Bowl.
Good call. Forgot to mention that one. Easily one of the biggest hose jobs I've ever seen. Also, I believe Miami had a good case for making the national title game in 2000 with just one loss but Florida St. was chosen over them.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:18 PM   #3688
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Miami would have won back-to-back titles in 2001-2002 if the ref didn't throw the flag in the first overtime of the 2003 Fiesta Bowl.
Don't remind me, I don't think I will ever forget that phantom pass interference call. I still get mad thinking about it.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:20 PM   #3689
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Don't remind me, I don't think I will ever forget that phantom pass interference call. I still get mad thinking about it.
that crap call and the image of Willis' knee getting shattered will never be forgotten
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:38 PM   #3690
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that crap call and the image of Willis' knee getting shattered will never be forgotten
Ken Dorsey had got a concussion too


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6021253

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Fired Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez has turned out to be a Michigan man after all, donating 12 bags of Wolverines apparel to a Detroit-area Salvation Army store aimed at helping people in need.

Maj. John Aren says Rodriguez gave 432 items to the store in Wayne, about 15 miles west-southwest of Detroit, less than one week after his ouster. Rodriguez is hardly the first area coach to lose his job, but Aren said a donation like this is unusual.


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"This is absolutely a unique experience for me," Aren said. "This is the first I've ever seen of this."

Aren said the collection includes caps, shirts and jackets, along with some accessories like gloves and a hand towel. Sizes range from small to 2XL.

A Coach's Closet tent sale is planned for noon to 2 p.m. Saturday with prices starting at around $6, although Aren says most items may be auctioned to people who show up.

"We just got a call from a person in Tennessee who wanted to make an offer over the phone," Aren said. "We're not going to honor that."

Aren said he thanked Rodriguez on Tuesday at his home near Ann Arbor.

"They were very gracious," Aren said. "They had great spirits."
Thats a ton of schwag
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:19 AM   #3691
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Figured I'd mix things up since we're in the college offseason now. What are your best national championship teams going back to say, 1990? Here's mine:

Best:
1. 1995 - Nebraska (12-0) - No disrespect to the rest but this is the finest team I've ever seen. Not a single opponent came within 14 points of beating this team. Their avg margin of victory was 38 points and they defeated four top-10 ranked teams by an average of 31 points. In the national title game they destroyed Spurrier's undefeated Gators team 62-24. If you want to see a clinic in greatness get a copy of that Fiesta Bowl. They were loaded with college superstars like Tommie Frazier (one of the best college QB's of all-time), Aaron Graham, RB's Ahman Green and Lawrence Phillips, Jared Tomich, Grant Wistrom, Aaron Taylor, Chris Dishman, Terrell Farley, etc.

2. 2001 - Miami (12-0) - Average margin of victory 32 points and won the national title game in a blowout over Nebraska. Here's just some of their roster that year. It looks like an NFL All-Pro roster. This team has 6 1st Team Al-Americans, 6 future 1st round picks and 13 All-conference 1st team selections.

QB - Ken Dorsey
RB - Clinton Portis, Najeh Davenport, Willis McGahee, Frank Gore
WR - Andre Johnson, Kevin Beard
TE - Jeremy Shockey
Other offensive starters - Bryant McKinnie, Joaquin Gonzalez
Key Defensive Players - Ed Reed, Jonathan Vilma, Phillip Buchanan, Jerome McDougle

3. 1991 - Washington (12-0) - Oddly enough this team was merely co-champions with the undefeated Canes in 1991. This team averaged 41 PPG while giving up just 9.6 PPG. Only one team came within single-digits of them all year. Their QB tandem was Billie Joe Hobart and Mark Brunnell. Other key players were Steve Emtman (a #1 overall Draft Pick), Mario Bailey, Aaron Pierce, Dana Hall, Ed Cunningham, etc.

4. 2004 - USC (13-0) - I think everyone is familiar with this bunch. They won by an average of 25 PPG and demolished an undefeated Oklahoma team 55-19 in the Orange Bowl Title game. Star players - Matt Leinhart, Reggie Bush, LenDale White, backup QB Matt Cassell, Dwayne Jarrett, Steve Smith, Dominique Byrd, etc.

5. 2005 - Texas (13-0) - Another more recent team most are familiar with. This team averaged 50 PPG while giving up just 16 PPG, including a win over a USC team that hadn't lost in over 2 years. Star players included QBVince Young (the real Heisman winner), RB Jamaal Charles and Selvin Young, Billy Pittman, Limas Sweed, Aaron Ross, etc.

Other notable teams just missing the cut:

2009 - Alabama (14-0) - Loaded team that ended Tebow's dream of an undefeated season
2008 - Florida (13-1) - Tebow magic
1999 - Florida St. (12-0) - Bowden's best team
1996 - Florida (12-1) - Spurrier's finest squad
1993 - Florida St. (12-1) - Only loss a close one @ Notre Dame
1992 - Alabama (13-0) - rolled a terrific Miami team in their Bowl game
1991 - Miami (12-0)
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:50 AM   #3692
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I'd say that miami team not to mention it had;
Sean Taylor (freshman)
Vince Wilfork
D.J. Williams
Mike Rumph (who was a beast in college and a 1st round pick)
Roscoe Parrish
Kellen Winslow Jr. (freshman)
Kelly Jennings (seahawks was a red shirt freshman)
Rocky McIntosh
Antrel Rolle

x11 pro bowls for those guys (not counting multiple times for some guys)

Don't forget Chris Campbell (rip) who died before even getting a shot at the NFL he probably would have been a 1st rounder as-well

Thats the best in my op those guys talents that translated to the NFL is unmatched that Nebraska team might have been all that, but I doubt they had anywhere NEAR the NFL talent that U team produced


95' Nebraska team x2 pro bowlers with 27 playing on an NFL team at some point... That Miami team had 13 alone taken that year not counting the freshman and such that would go on to be drafted.

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Old 01-15-2011, 02:50 AM   #3693
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I gotta put the 2009 Bama team up there. First of all, that team had a switch they turned on in every game that said to the other team, "You will NOT win today!"

Second of all, that '95 Nebraska team irks me. No way in hell in a just world does Lawrence Phillips be allowed to play in that game, much less that season. But Tom Osborne was God in Nebraska, so His will be done.

2005 Texas I put way up there, too.

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Miami would have won back-to-back titles in 2001-2002 if the ref didn't throw the flag in the first overtime of the 2003 Fiesta Bowl.
There's a lot of ifs in this world.

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Old 01-15-2011, 03:19 AM   #3694
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I gotta put the 2009 Bama team up there. First of all, that team had a switch they turned on in every game that said to the other team, "You will NOT win today!"

Second of all, that '95 Nebraska team irks me. No way in hell in a just world does Lawrence Phillips be allowed to play in that game, much less that season. But Tom Osborne was God in Nebraska, so His will be done.

2005 Texas I put way up there, too.

There's a lot of ifs in this world.
What bugs me when we're talking about Nebraska is their 1994 "national championship" squad. Both Nebraska and Penn St. finish undefeated that year and to this day I believe Penn St. was the better team. The voters clearly awarded the national championship to Nebraska in 1994 because Tom Osbourne had never won one up to that point. The 1994 Nittany Lions were probably the finest team Paterno ever had. They had Kerry Colliuns at QB, a terrific college RB in Ki-Jana Carter and were stacked at nearly every position.

Another team that got royally screwed was the 13-0 Auburn team of 2004. They didn't get a shot at the title despite going undefeated in the SEC with Jason Campbell at QB and an amazing backfield of Cadillac Wiliams and Ronnie Brown.
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I'd say that miami team not to mention it had;
Sean Taylor (freshman)
Vince Wilfork
D.J. Williams
Mike Rumph (who was a beast in college and a 1st round pick)
Roscoe Parrish
Kellen Winslow Jr. (freshman)
Kelly Jennings (seahawks was a red shirt freshman)
Rocky McIntosh
Antrel Rolle

x11 pro bowls for those guys (not counting multiple times for some guys)

Don't forget Chris Campbell (rip) who died before even getting a shot at the NFL he probably would have been a 1st rounder as-well

Thats the best in my op those guys talents that translated to the NFL is unmatched that Nebraska team might have been all that, but I doubt they had anywhere NEAR the NFL talent that U team produced


95' Nebraska team x2 pro bowlers with 27 playing on an NFL team at some point... That Miami team had 13 alone taken that year not counting the freshman and such that would go on to be drafted.


forgetting jeremy shockey on that miami team......cant argue against the miami and nebraska 1/2


edit: nvm i see him in the original post

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Old 01-15-2011, 03:36 AM   #3696
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forgetting jeremy shockey on that miami team......cant argue against the miami and nebraska 1/2


edit: nvm i see him in the original post
Yeah he got it I was just filling in the massive amount of talent he left off Its far to early to tell about some of these sec teams that have come and gone in the past 5 years and they actually might give that miami team a run for their money.

I didn't realize this but Cam Newton actually has two national championships as he was part of the 08 team and now this past year.

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Another team that got royally screwed was the 13-0 Auburn team of 2004. They didn't get a shot at the title despite going undefeated in the SEC with Jason Campbell at QB and an amazing backfield of Cadillac Wiliams and Ronnie Brown.
They also had Devin Aromashodu, Carlos Rogers, Jay Ratliff, Quentin Groves, Marcus McNeill still not nearly as stacked as that Miami team.

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Old 01-20-2011, 03:55 PM   #3697
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Yesterday was not a good day for TCU. First, in an apparent FU to the Horned Frogs who are leaving for the Big East after next season, the Mountain West Conference announced that the Boise State-TCU game will likely be played at Boise, not TCU as previously announced. The final decision will require a vote from MWC school presidents. TCU does not get to vote on the issue since they are leaving the conference. Then, Texas Tech dropped TCU from their schedule. Tech said it was because they needed to drop a non-conference game since the Big 12 is moving to a 9-game conference schedule next year, but that excuse doesn't work because Tech only has 2 non-conference games scheduled for next season is currently searching for another non-conference opponent.

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Hey fatediesel, where is Forcier going to be transferring to? Is he going the FCS route so he won't have to sit out a year or will he be going to another FBS school?
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A college football team setting up a $300 mill TV deal?! That's got to dwarf even Notre Dame's football contracts.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6037857

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ESPN and the University of Texas will combine on a 24-hour television network showing Longhorns sports as well as original series, studio shows, historical programming and other academic and cultural events.

There also will be an online component to the network offering content not featured on the linear TV feed.

ESPN will help develop, launch and operate the network. It will also handle distribution of the network, which is unnamed as of now. The deal is worth $300 million over 20 years. The network will launch in September.
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Hey fatediesel, where is Forcier going to be transferring to? Is he going the FCS route so he won't have to sit out a year or will he be going to another FBS school?
At this point it's speculation but from what I've read it sounds like he's going to go the FCS route so he can play immediately. I've heard Montana is a possibility and San Diego could be as well. Even though he's from the San Diego area I'd be surprised if he went to San Diego. It's a lower-level school that doesn't offer scholarships and he'd have a better chance of making the NFL if he went to a perennial FCS power like Montana, Delaware, or Eastern Washington. By the way, there are 3 Forcier brothers, each one a quarterback, and each one transferred during college.
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