Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by bhampton

How do you do ? .... And by that, I'm wondering how folks consume content these days if they feel like sharing.

I have 3 sources.I would prefer one gizmo to rule them all but the fact is I don't know of any one thing that does everything I like to do.

[Show spoiler]ATV4K

All things streaming, I use it for ATV+, Apple Music, iTunes, Fitness+, Disney+, Neighbor's Hulu with live TV account, Kanopy, YouTube, Netflix and Vudu. If only it supported better audio it could be my one and only gizmo.

Zidoo Z9X

My Media Server device. I have most of my content backed up on my local network. The Zidoo performs like a Kaliedscape system and adds the ability to do 3D and multi channel high res audio.

Panasonic UB9000

My disc player. With dual HDMI outputs I can get HDR10+ which my AVR doesn't support. Capable of playing most of my content directly. Also used when others show up with movies they want to see at my place. It's offline and used only for disc playback.


I play video games but not in my home theater.

I don't have any Vinyl. I can appreciate it but it's too delicate for me.

I use:

Panasonic UB820 - UHD's and Region A Blu
Sony Region Free Sony BDP-S6500 - Import Blu's
Nvidia Shield Pro - Streaming device on primary TV
Amazon Fire Stick 4K - Streaming device on secondary TV

I also have built in Apps on my LG and Vizio 4K TV's but the dedicated streaming devices work much better. I also have a PS4 but my wife primarily plays that now. I stick to PC gaming.

[bhampton]

I should add for the sake of brevity Wendell should list the devices he doesn't use in his system.

The UB9000 was around $1000 USD (to answer Steedeel) ... I loved the UB420 but beer was spilled on it while in storage and it got flaky. I figured I should get the best player I can and although the UB9000 is expensive it's not like 10x the cost of most other options.

For my region 2 discs (which I don't have many) I use the media server to play them back.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I should add for the sake of brevity Wendell should list the devices he doesn't use in his system.

The UB9000 was around $1000 (to answer Steedeel) ... I loved the UB420 but beer was spilled on it while in storage and it got flaky. I figured I should get the best player I can and although the UB9000 is expensive it's not like 10x the cost of most other options.

For my region 2 discs (which I don't have many) I use the media server to play them back.

I’m guessing just a PS5. (Or any console)

[bhampton]

Currently have PS4, WiiU and a MsPacman arcade 1up.
(And a 2DSXL almost forgot)

The PS4 and WiiU are stored unless the kids ask about them.

[Steedeel]

https://www.glance.com/newsroom/pres...v-launch-india

Views on this guys? Noticed the company getting traction on websites like The Verge. They are launching in USA and globally eventually.

Sounds horrific. Talk of interactive, bite sized chunks of content which is my worst nightmare. Coming to smart tv home screens and talks with Google etc.

Sounds like they are becoming g more established and their value is over 2 billion now.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

https://www.glance.com/newsroom/pres...v-launch-india

Views on this guys? Noticed the company getting traction on websites like The Verge. They are launching in USA and globally eventually.

Sounds horrific. Talk of interactive, bite sized chunks of content which is my worst nightmare. Coming to smart tv home screens and talks with Google etc.

Sounds like they are becoming g more established and their value is over 2 billion now.

Even if it is successful (which I sincerely doubt) it will not replace our current viewing experiences. Just because something new is introduced does not mean it will supplant any existing options.

People are inherently lazy. If they are unwilling to put a disc in a player to watch a movie you can bet they are too lazy to interact with the TV using a remote or app.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bhampton

How do you do ? .... And by that, I'm wondering how folks consume content these days if they feel like sharing.

Source hardware in the home theater:
Apple TV 4K (2021)
Chromecast Audio
Free Sat v7 Satellite Tuner (PBS)
JVC HM–DH5U D-VHS D-Theater
Nvidia Shield Pro 2019
Oppo UDP-203 UHD Blu-ray Player
Sony TC-RX311 Cassette Recorder
Sony UBP-X1000ES UHD Blu-ray Player
Yamaha CX-A5100 AVP (used for Pandora when not viewing)
Zappiti Neo Media Player
Zidoo Z9X Media Player

Physical:
Blu-ray
Blu-ray UHD
Cassette, Audio
CD
D-Theater Tapes
DVD

IPTV (streaming)
Amazon Prime
Britbox
Disney+
Google
HBO Max
Movies Anywhere
Netflix
Vudu

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

https://www.glance.com/newsroom/pres...v-launch-india

Views on this guys?

“Glance has reimagined the lock screen of smartphones into a live screen for personalised, LIVE content. With Glance TV, we want to redefine television experiences just as we did with smartphones. This is TV in a way that has never been seen before and is a true innovation that extends the LIVE experience that Glance delivers on lock screens to television home screens,” said Piyush Shah, Co-founder of InMobi Group and President & COO of Glance.

“With Glance TV, our intention is to remove the age-old connotation of TV being an idle way to pass time and change the perception of TV as the ‘idiot box’. Glance TV gives users experiences where they can be active while watching TV and can express themselves directly on the big screen, within virtual communities of fellow users,”

OK ... Why do anything at all with the lock screen of smart phones ? ... That's a silly place to put anything as it's designed to be ignored. Are they claiming THEY redefined smartphones ? .. Sounds like they are.

So, they want to change TV from something you watch to something interactive? ...Have they ever heard of video games or computers ?

ok I read more and this is so dumb it could indeed become very popular. Why even unlock a phone when you can watch sports games and movie trailers on the lock screen? Makes stolen phones much more useful. I dunno.... this looks like a joke but then so does Facebook and Twatter.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I should add for the sake of brevity Wendell should list the devices he doesn't use in his system.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I’m guessing just a PS5. (Or any console)

Never appealed to me, years ago would play a little Pac Man on the commercial machines.

It does feel a little weird playing our movies and not putting in and removing a physical disc from the player.

One feature I really like about the Zappiti Neo and Zidoo Z9X media players: playing my videos (PBS) and they can restart where I stopped if we had to quit before the program was over. Just finished Masterpiece - Endeavor.

[bhampton]

Media Servers are extra nice for TV shows for that reason. No need to figure out or dig out the disc you are on they combine the convenience of online with the quality of disc. Plus, it was such a relief to have my full UHD Game of Thrones series backed up. I need to get to LOST and Weeds. I have all 3 of those series in iTUnes but I don't like the quality. When a set has 50 discs in it and one goes bad it's a nightmare.

The more I read about the people making content for lock screens the funnier I find the whole notion. Maybe next someone can make content for folks who have been locked out of TVs via Ransomware. Pay up or ... watch our stuff. People seriously need to start rejecting things or else we will be walking around with company logos on our shirts and hats.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Ender14

Even if it is successful (which I sincerely doubt) it will not replace our current viewing experiences. Just because something new is introduced does not mean it will supplant any existing options.

People are inherently lazy. If they are unwilling to put a disc in a player to watch a movie you can bet they are too lazy to interact with the TV using a remote or app.

Using the same argument, people are so lazy that they won’t bother searching for content and just watch any content on the smart tv Home Screen.

Sounds like they want to turn a tv into a smartphone experience with short clips and social stuff.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Never appealed to me, years ago would play a little Pac Man on the commercial machines.

It does feel a little weird playing our movies and not putting in and removing a physical disc from the player.

One feature I really like about the Zappiti Neo and Zidoo Z9X media players: playing my videos (PBS) and they can restart where I stopped if we had to quit before the program was over. Just finished Masterpiece - Endeavor.

Love gaming personally. Pac man was incredible by the way. Ultra addictive.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

“Glance has reimagined the lock screen of smartphones into a live screen for personalised, LIVE content. With Glance TV, we want to redefine television experiences just as we did with smartphones. This is TV in a way that has never been seen before and is a true innovation that extends the LIVE experience that Glance delivers on lock screens to television home screens,” said Piyush Shah, Co-founder of InMobi Group and President & COO of Glance.

“With Glance TV, our intention is to remove the age-old connotation of TV being an idle way to pass time and change the perception of TV as the ‘idiot box’. Glance TV gives users experiences where they can be active while watching TV and can express themselves directly on the big screen, within virtual communities of fellow users,”

OK ... Why do anything at all with the lock screen of smart phones ? ... That's a silly place to put anything as it's designed to be ignored. Are they claiming THEY redefined smartphones ? .. Sounds like they are.

So, they want to change TV from something you watch to something interactive? ...Have they ever heard of video games or computers ?

ok I read more and this is so dumb it could indeed become very popular. Why even unlock a phone when you can watch sports games and movie trailers on the lock screen? Makes stolen phones much more useful. I dunno.... this looks like a joke but then so does Facebook and Twatter.

Technically they have been successful with 23 million users in India.

Google are backing them too. Seems like a matter of time before we see it here (and the states).

It’s not just about content of course. Advertisements will play a big part imo.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Advertisements will play a big part imo.

Absolutely... Likely using ads more than anything else.

https://www.androidheadlines.com/202...ed-glance.html

Glance provides its services to over 400 million smartphones in the Asian market


People need to be pro active in limiting exposure to ads. It's beyond out of control.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bhampton

People need to be pro active in limiting exposure to ads. It's beyond out of control.

One of the reasons I continue to use SeaMonkey with Adblock Plus. Also use DuckDuckGo on the PC and tablet.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Absolutely... Likely using ads more than anything else.

https://www.androidheadlines.com/202...ed-glance.html

Glance provides its services to over 400 million smartphones in the Asian market


People need to be pro active in limiting exposure to ads. It's beyond out of control.

And soon it’s coming to smart TVs. Imagine, 8K Micro LED wall displays and people watching live internet feeds on them.

Honestly, in the words of Negan, this shit needs to be shut down’.

I can see Netflix jumping on board with this. It has been a concern of theirs for years that they are losing the under 28 age group to Tik Tok and gaming. This live interactive Home Screen seems like a way to connect with younger audiences who tend to love big live event tv and interaction.

My concern is that with access to this content on the smart tv Home Screen , more and more people will bypass film and scripted content for this stuff.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

https://www.glance.com/newsroom/pres...v-launch-india

Views on this guys? Noticed the company getting traction on websites like The Verge. They are launching in USA and globally eventually.

Sounds horrific. Talk of interactive, bite sized chunks of content which is my worst nightmare. Coming to smart tv home screens and talks with Google etc.

Sounds like they are becoming g more established and their value is over 2 billion now.

Reminds me of Quibi and we all know how well that turned out.

I commented on a post! It's a start.....

[Vilya]

On a separate note, a friend is going to do a complete rebuild of my computer for me. I can't even lift the thing in my present state, but I was able to click with my mouse and buy a whole bunch of computer parts.

It will be my first foray into Windoze 10... if the rebuild is a success. If nothing else, this project makes for a nice distraction from other things.

[cheez avenger]

My Criterion 4K disc of Okja and Last Duel 4K arrived today. Last Duel, used and whatever, came intact with the 4K disc, BD, and digital copy. Had the case and even the slipcover from GameFly. Well done!

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by Vilya

On a separate note, a friend is going to do a complete rebuild of my computer for me. I can't even lift the thing in my present state, but I was able to click with my mouse and buy a whole bunch of computer parts.

It will be my first foray into Windoze 10... if the rebuild is a success. If nothing else, this project makes for a nice distraction from other things.

That's 2 posts in a row... might want to pace yourself young man ...LOL...

Now that my brain is slowly turning to mush, my son has taken over the maintenance of all computer related things in our household... the student had become the master... he's gerryrigged an old raspberry Pi that I would have used as an old KODI box into something that blocks ads to all the devices in our home. If seems to work well enough as I can't say that I've been too bothered overall by them. Every month or so, he'll provide me with a report about how much has been blocked and telling what gear is attempting to " call home"... I find it weird that things like my DENON amp are making the attempt. Although, I don't think they usually have ads on their OSD...