Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Better in Blu]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Watched Thor 4 last night and it was quite obnoxious. The Dolby Cinema presentation was great, as was the soundtrack and Christian Bale, but the countless jokes really got tiresome.

I decided to keep my rental copy of Heavy Metal on 4K disc -- the Atmos soundtrack is phenomenal and the video is terrific.

Also placed a second 4K disc order with B&N:

Shaft 4K
The Red Shoes 4K
Double Indemnity 4K
Le Circle Rouge 4K

All great on 4K

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Different things altogether. For one, I’m a once and done guy for gaming (single player games)

For film, I can watch the same film countless times so it’s a totally different value prospect.

For the gaming subscription, I could buy all the games I mentioned but I would still only play one game at a time. This way, I can complete, move on and save a fortune.

6 games would cost me £300+. The subscription is £130 a year. I’m probably going to get through around 20-22 games this year on average plus a handful of simulation games and shorter indie.

It’s a bargain.

With an attitude like that you don't have any right to be mad at people who treat movies the same way you treat games.

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Media Servers are extra nice for TV shows for that reason. No need to figure out or dig out the disc you are on they combine the convenience of online with the quality of disc. Plus, it was such a relief to have my full UHD Game of Thrones series backed up. I need to get to LOST and Weeds. I have all 3 of those series in iTUnes but I don't like the quality. When a set has 50 discs in it and one goes bad it's a nightmare.

How gigantic is your Game of Thrones UHD backup?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I took the liberty of fixing your comment for you.

4K games aren’t streamed. They are downloaded to the hard drive.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

That depends on what those standards are. The reason I prefer physical media is because it can't be modified or taken away. With games especially digital copies are both modified and taken away constantly.

Whether the games are in 4K, HD, or SD is irrelevant.

Comparing Apples to Oranges. Games change by their very nature. Especially multiplayer. Patches, DLC, extended maps etc..

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

With an attitude like that you don't have any right to be mad at people who treat movies the same way you treat games.

Again, Apples to Oranges. I’m not accepting lower quality the same way digital video fans are. It’s like for like. I still experience games in 4K with 3D surround, it’s the EXACT same quality as disc. My experience is identical.

The more I save with gaming, the more I spend on film. It’s simple economics that supports my passion.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Comparing Apples to Oranges. Games change by their very nature. Especially multiplayer. Patches, DLC, extended maps etc..

None of my games do. All of my games are played (or installed) directly off the disc and I never download any patches.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Again, Apples to Oranges. I’m not accepting lower quality the same way digital video fans are. It’s like for like. I still experience games in 4K with 3D surround, it’s the EXACT same quality as disc. My experience is identical.

So just to be clear you would have absolutely no problem with digital movies if they were the same video and audio quality as discs? Even though they could still easily be modified or taken away at any time, like digital games are.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The more I save with gaming, the more I spend on film. It’s simple economics that supports my passion.

Plenty of other people have that exact same attitude towards film: "the more they save on film the more they can spend on their other passions."

You are constantly posting about how everyone is ruining film. By your own logic you are ruining video games in the same way.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Plenty of other people have that exact same attitude towards film: "the more they save on film the more they can spend on their other passions."

You are constantly posting about how everyone is ruining film. By your own logic you are ruining video games in the same way.

Yeah, but those folk aren’t film fanatics, people who frequent this forum generally are. People claiming to be film fanatics generally put their spare money into that department.

How am I ruining video games? By giving them £130 every year?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

None of my games do. All of my games are played (or installed) directly off the disc and I never download any patches.

You also don’t play multiplayer, I do. Modern gaming pretty much demands internet access.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

How am I ruining video games? By giving them £130 every year?

By giving them money for a subscription service instead of physical discs. Therefore leading to less games being released on disc and more games becoming completely unavailable in the future.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You also don’t play multiplayer, I do. Modern gaming pretty much demands internet access.

Are you buying physical versions of all the single-player games you play?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

So just to be clear you would have absolutely no problem with digital movies if they were the same video and audio quality as discs? Even though they could still easily be modified or taken away at any time, like digital games are.

I would absolutely have a problem.

Like Vilya, you are comparing Apples to Oranges. Games generally are a once and done experience unless we are talking multiplayer focussed. I play, I complete and I delete to create more space on hard drive.

Films, I can watch an unlimited amount of times.

I order groceries from a online service, should I stop doing that because the company can send replacements for items not in stock or change the ingredients to improve the recipe?

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I order groceries from a online service, should I stop doing that because the company can send replacements for items not in stock or change the ingredients to improve the recipe?

Are your groceries digital? Or are you buying physical groceries from an online service?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

By giving them money for a subscription service instead of physical discs. Therefore leading to less games being released on disc and more games becoming completely unavailable in the future.

Buying the equivalent games on disc would cost upwards of £500 just for the few games I mentioned. I need that money for more 4K film discs. It’s the greater good.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I would absolutely have a problem.

Like Vilya, you are comparing Apples to Oranges. Games generally are a once and done experience unless we are talking multiplayer focussed. I play, I complete and I delete to create more space on hard drive.

Films, I can watch an unlimited amount of times.

For plenty of people movies are also a "once and done experience".
For plenty of other people games can be played an unlimited number of times.

You have absolutely no right to be mad at people for treating movies the same way you treat games just because games aren't as important as movies to you.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Are you buying physical versions of all the single-player games you play?

Not since June this year.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

How gigantic is your Game of Thrones UHD backup?

I will go get that info. The box set has 33 discs.

I was happy because a lot of people had problems with the set but mine was in perfect order and I want it to stay that way.

-Brian

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

For plenty of people movies are also a "once and done experience".
For plenty of other people games can be played an unlimited number of times.

You have absolutely no right to be mad at people for treating movies the same way you treat games just because games aren't as important as movies to you.

I know I don’t. But I do have that expectation of people in this forum with HT. the masses have always been a lost cause who I have little faith in to seek out quality.