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Old 05-05-2025, 04:37 PM   #37541
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The Monster Squad >>>> The Goonies
Totally agree. And for me, it's not close.
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Old 05-05-2025, 05:08 PM   #37542
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Loathing The Goonies seems to be a growing trend. Or...maybe people are actually just being honest with themselves that they've never liked it and only considered it a "classic" of some kind because they felt that they were supposed to. I think there's a lot of that that goes around. I've always thought The Goonies was fine. I certainly don't LOATHE it...but I don't think it's just amazing either. I think both of the new IT movies are better. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. One I freely indulge in myself lol...just not when it comes to The Goonies. Richard Donner was a competent director with an oddball filmography. I think The Omen, Superman and Lethal Weapon are the best movies he's ever directed. I honestly find it hard to believe that the same person who directed The Omen directed Superman and Lethal Weapon 4 and Timeline. And The Goonies. Weird filmography. He's like a more successful Martin Campbell. Donner was only ever as good as the script/overall production he was working with. If it was bad like Timeline...he certainly wasn't going to elevate it much..
I never cared for it, I don't hate it either. There's a lot of nostalgia to mediocre '80s kids movies that are just fine but aren't great - Star Wars, Goonies, Ghostbusters, Tron, Willow, Back to the Future (the sequels mostly).
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Old 05-05-2025, 05:21 PM   #37543
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Well....not Star Wars lol. Maybe Return of the Jedi. But every time I watch A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back I'm just floored at how much they just WORK. But that's just my opinion.

Tron is my biggest one. I just don't like it that much at all. But I LOVE the sequel and I think Tron Ares looks great. Tron Legacy obliterates the original.

Willow isn't very good either outside of Val Kilmer playing Aragorn by way of Indiana Jones. It rips of Lord off the Rings SO HARD..

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Old 05-05-2025, 05:21 PM   #37544
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I'm all about some 80s movies, rewatch them all the time. Never saw The Goonies back then, and when I finally did get around to watching it a few years ago, I just hated every single frame. Started off loud & annoying, got worse as it went on. By the time the second hour of torture started, I was hoping for an ending where they all died a horrible, flaming death.
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Old 05-05-2025, 05:28 PM   #37545
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Yeah it's hard for me to even imagine The Goonies without the nostalgia factor. If I just watched it for the first time like this decade...I'd probably at the very least be intensely indifferent to it..
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Old 05-05-2025, 05:32 PM   #37546
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Star Wars is hugely overrated. It's goofy fun, but I mean, come on. It's not a great movie.
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Old 05-05-2025, 05:39 PM   #37547
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Star Wars was for kids. It's only now be super catered to man/womanchildren.

It's lost the appeal when Lucas handed it over. The shows and Kathleen Kennedy ran any appeal of it into the ground.

Thank god the video games of the world tend to be good. Usually.
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Old 05-05-2025, 05:40 PM   #37548
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Okay, my turn: I LOATHE The Goonies.
I was 12 when it was released. I saw it and thought, "I'm so glad none of my friends are like that". Saw it again when it hit DVD, and I still hated it.

Would I have liked it more if the kids weren't so obnoxious? I'll never know.
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Old 05-05-2025, 06:12 PM   #37549
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The Goonies was one of those movies that other kids in the neighborhood had, but was not in my own family's VHS collection (all movies taped off of free preview weekends of various cable movie channels). As a result, I saw it maybe a only couple of times, and its stature grew in my mind mostly because it was a popular movie that I did not have ready access to.
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Old 05-05-2025, 06:12 PM   #37550
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I think it was derailed as soon as Zegler and Gadot said in an interview that it was going to be about female empowerment and the prince angle was going to be removed. I don't think how she said it even mattered that much. The "magical creatures" thing didn't help either.
Well, there are quite a few categories of potentially disinterested individuals where this film is concerned.
  • supporters of Palestine who dislike Gal Gadot's statements/position
  • supporters of Israel who dislike Rachael Zegler's statements/position
  • folktale fans/purists who can't get behind casting a Snow White who doesn't match the very prominent description from the original fairy tale (Germanic tale 111+ years older than Disney)
  • Fans upset about the story being changed too much vs Disney's last version
  • little people and supporters who don't like the use of CGI dwarves vs giving actual people jobs. Never mind the uncanny valley...
  • people who just find Zegler's attitude off-putting
  • people who know Gadot can't act and don't care to see her "performance" as a Disney villain
  • people who disagree with the concept of live-action remakes on a conceptual level and want Disney to adapt/create new things instead

There are probably more categories I've missed

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Night Of The Creeps and Night Of The Demons are equally as great as Return Of The Living Dead hands down! Yet they aren't as well known or talked about.
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Old 05-06-2025, 06:39 AM   #37552
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For the most part, George Lucas was right.
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Old 05-06-2025, 08:51 AM   #37553
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Well, there are quite a few categories of potentially disinterested individuals where this film is concerned....
There are probably more categories I've missed
People who have turned trashing anything Disney into their identity, personality or occupation.

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The Goonies was a film that I saw because my dad thought it was so awesome and that I would really enjoy it. I thought it was fun but I couldn't relate to any of those kids, and Josh Brolin's character really bothered me. He resembled all the older kids that were mean to me and the fact that he got accepted into the group and got the cute girl in the end didn't seem fair lol. Anyway, it just wasn't a film that I'd make an effort to revisit. The reason I saw it so much is because it was constantly playing on TV.
I agree with Dr West, The Monster Squad was the film of that kind that I'd always revisit and that I could relate to, the kids spoke my language (the love for horror) and I liked that the older dude was cool and protective of the younger kids.
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People who have turned trashing anything Disney into their identity, personality or occupation.
I don't think they belong on my list tbh. If you are making a living out of critiquing Disney movies, you probably buy a ticket and see it asap so you can get your video out on time.
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Old 05-06-2025, 02:53 PM   #37556
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I don't think they belong on my list tbh. If you are making a living out of critiquing Disney movies, you probably buy a ticket and see it asap so you can get your video out on time.
Just making shit up before even seeing a trailer seems to pay well enough.
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Old 05-06-2025, 02:54 PM   #37557
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Even as a kid I disliked The Goonies.

I once bunked off school with a friend to see Back to the Future on it's opening day. The same cinema was also showing Goonies. He wanted to see that instead. I said you'll be going in on your own. We saw BTTF instead.

I've not seen him since we left school, but I hope he's eternally grateful.
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Old 05-06-2025, 03:03 PM   #37558
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Just making shit up before even seeing a trailer seems to pay well enough.
Alright, so they make gossip videos before the movie drops, I think they still buy tickets though.
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Old 05-06-2025, 06:26 PM   #37559
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Aside from the ending, I prefer Tim Burton’s Planet of the Apes over the original and find it much more entertaining.

That said, the newer films are the best overall.
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If I hated Goonies more it would be The Lost Boys.
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