The Official Acoustic Audio Subwoofer Owners Thread

[jomari]

Originally Posted by symphx

ps anyone hear of Bic Acoustech, these look and seem badass. 279, some good reviews on Amazon.

http://www.sounddistributors.com/buy...stech+Speakers

Bic America is one of those companies in the mainstream that was in direct competition with this one in the earlier years, and still is a great contender. i chose the AA sub because it was new, it was different, and well, the early adopters were also willing to play guinea pig on them. it worked out for most of us, but for others, well, as always, companies should always consider customer service as an integral part of their product as well.

Moving forward, i do believe there is a dedicated thread for the bic subs, and a good amount of followers.

[Tom V.]

Originally Posted by symphx

ps anyone hear of Bic Acoustech, these look and seem badass. 279, some good reviews on Amazon.

http://www.sounddistributors.com/buy...stech+Speakers

http://www.data-bass.com/systems

The subwoofer I recommended above(pa 150) would be equal to 2-3 of the PL200s. I would suggest everyone spend some time at the data-bass site before making a purchase decision.

Look closely at the "max burst" CEA SPL output data. Remember, if subwoofer A has 6dB more than subwoofer B....that means it would take 2 of subwoofer B to equal A.

Tom V.

[symphx]

Thanks Tom, and all. Im sorry I missed the link to the pa-150 and somehow went straight to the pro audio one. My understanding is 15 inch may be too big for being 8-10 feet away and I may not "appreciate" the proper sound waves. In fact on reviewer mentioned smaller gives a tighter punch (even 10 inch) and less rumble.

That pa-150 does look like a monster though! Good news WAF front. I may get to hook up both I think with that I will have plenty of bass, now its a matter of arrrrrg, possibly drilling holes (really just expanding 2 I have) , the speaker wire will need to go under house.

[symphx]

so I picked one sub based on stats hoooooooolly molly bat cave shaker;

http://www.paradigm.com/products/pro...ure-series/sub

9000 peak watts, 10 drivers! 4 of these may literally blow the house down (or even one!)

[Tom V.]

Originally Posted by symphx

Thanks Tom, and all. Im sorry I missed the link to the pa-150 and somehow went straight to the pro audio one. My understanding is 15 inch may be too big for being 8-10 feet away and I may not "appreciate" the proper sound waves. In fact on reviewer mentioned smaller gives a tighter punch (even 10 inch) and less rumble.

That pa-150 does look like a monster though! Good news WAF front. I may get to hook up both I think with that I will have plenty of bass, now its a matter of arrrrrg, possibly drilling holes (really just expanding 2 I have) , the speaker wire will need to go under house.

I'm not sure who told you anything about "sound waves from a 15", blah, blah..." But I can tell you...that is pure BS.

Regarding "tight bass" and small subs....

http://www.data-bass.com/data?page=knowhow&type=1

Read all of them---but esp #6.

This is Josh Ricci's site. He is one of the most knowledgeable folks around when it comes to low frequency acoustics. Please---listen to him before some anonymous "reviewer" on amazon..

Tom V.

[Tom V.]

Originally Posted by symphx

so I picked one sub based on stats hoooooooolly molly bat cave shaker;

http://www.paradigm.com/products/pro...ure-series/sub

9000 peak watts, 10 drivers! 4 of these may literally blow the house down (or even one!)

Josh Ricci reviewed that one too..

Very good performer. Quite expensive of course but it is hard to argue with it's performance capabilities. I kinda dig the 3 sided thing too..

Tom V.

[symphx]

Originally Posted by Tom V.

Josh Ricci reviewed that one too..

Very good performer. Quite expensive of course but it is hard to argue with it's performance capabilities. I kinda dig the 3 sided thing too..

Tom V.

I should clarify I didnt buy it no way, I meant I picked it to check out further, based on the stats u told me about, Ill stick with what I got, right now Im battling some ear fullness/ pressure pains from too much loud noise anyway!

thanks again for your help

[CoMaToast]

to all the n00bs here... I cant believe this Amp problem is still going on... As a car and HT enthusiast / builder for 10 yrs, I am going to tell you , dont waste your money on this garbage.. unless you like low quality bass, NO bass reproduction below 30 HZ ( which is where 90% of movies are at ) , distortion , and descent volume at best ( if packed with poly )



Save youeself a few buck and get the polk psw 110 or 112 which is a better, louder, cleaner sub, for less.....

[cyto]

Hi All,
This is my first post here.

I am thinking of putting 2 subs in my 2 channel system. I was going to put my speakers (Klipsch Heresy II with external crossovers) on top of the subs to save space and meet the WAF. I am using an integrated tube amp. I have two Emotiva subs in my home theater but I can't use them with the tube amp.

I was thinking of getting 2 of the AA 12" because the footprint if similar to the Heresy's.

How good are these for music only?

Thanks

[theJman]

I don't imagine you'll find the AA subwoofers to be musical - they're bargain subs, which often substitute clarity and precision for output. Your Emotiva's will be far more musical and articulate. Why can't you use the Emo's with your amp? Line level inputs perhaps?

[cyto]

Originally Posted by theJman

I don't imagine you'll find the AA subwoofers to be musical - they're bargain subs, which often substitute clarity and precision for output. Your Emotiva's will be far more musical and articulate. Why can't you use the Emo's with your amp? Line level inputs perhaps?

The Emotiva subs don't have line level inputs, only XLR and RCA. My tube amp only has speaker level outputs.

I was thinking of building a couple myself also.

I don't see details about the amps, I assume class D?

Can the AA subs be modded? I built external xovers for my Heresy's and rebuilt my phono preamp with new op amps and caps.

[theJman]

Yea, I kind of figured it had to do with the inputs. What type of mod are you referring to?

[cyto]

Originally Posted by theJman

Yea, I kind of figured it had to do with the inputs. What type of mod are you referring to?

Upgrading the crossover, driver or amp if needed.

[theJman]

Originally Posted by cyto

Upgrading the crossover, driver or amp if needed.

Have you considered DIY? If you're willing to go through that much effort to improve the AA sub you might want to just build one instead. That way it will be exactly what you want from the beginning.

[cyto]

Originally Posted by theJman

Have you considered DIY? If you're willing to go through that much effort to improve the AA sub you might want to just build one instead. That way it will be exactly what you want from the beginning.

I am seriously considering DIY, the biggest problem is making an enclosure that looks decent. I was looking at BASH 300 at part express for $112 shipped. I actually have some extra 12" Klipsch drivers but they were designed for Heresy and Forte so I don't know how well they would work in a sub, and I can't get the T/S specs on them.

The price of one of the AA subs is not much more than a decent enclosure, I was thinking that if it wasn't good enough soundwise I could tweak it to improve the sound. I really don't have the equipment to make an enclosure that would meet the WAF.

I am a constant tweaker though and am OK with getting something close if it can be improved. Check out my Heresy II crossovers:
http://s1215.photobucket.com/albums/...%20crossovers/

BTW do you know what class amp the HD AA subs have?

[theJman]

Originally Posted by cyto

I am seriously considering DIY, the biggest problem is making an enclosure that looks decent. I was looking at BASH 300 at part express for $112 shipped.

Parts Express sells full subwoofer kits that include everything you need to build a complete unit. If you want to go that route you should check out this link.

If you want to choose your own parts for everything you might want to consider one of the DIY Sound Groups flat packs. With those you just bascially assemble and finish them using whatever you'd like (paint, bedliner, veneer, etc).

Originally Posted by cyto

BTW do you know what class amp the HD AA subs have?

I don't know specifically, but my guess would be class D. Those are probably the cheapest to make, parts wise, so it stand to reason that's what AA is using.

[cyto]

Originally Posted by theJman

Parts Express sells full subwoofer kits that include everything you need to build a complete unit. If you want to go that route you should check out this link.

If you want to choose your own parts for everything you might want to consider one of the DIY Sound Groups flat packs. With those you just bascially assemble and finish them using whatever you'd like (paint, bedliner, veneer, etc).

Thanks for the links , kits do not interest me as I prefer to choose my own components. The flat packs look very interesting, the prices are pretty good considering a sheet of 3/4" MDF is $34 + tax at Lowes. I will have to look at shipping though.

[cyto]

I contacted the sellers and ask what type (class) of amp was in the HD-SUB12 and also the weight of the magnet on the driver.

They said they did not have the answers to those questions

[theJman]

If you're referring to TheDeepDiscount then I'm not surprised; they know little to nothing about the AA subs. What's even worse is AA's homepage contains absolutely nothing of substance, which would make me nervous quite frankly.

[cyto]

Originally Posted by theJman

If you're referring to TheDeepDiscount then I'm not surprised; they know little to nothing about the AA subs. What's even worse is AA's homepage contains absolutely nothing of substance, which would make me nervous quite frankly.

The AA website does have a manual http://www.acousticaudio.com./Powered_Sub_Manual.pdf, according it all the subs have A/B amps. No info on the drivers.