Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I can't find a BD for Rogue (2007) from any country at this website. Where is yours from?

I don't even remember what country it was from. As Steel mentioned the UK has one. Not sure about which cut is included, though.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I can't find a BD for Rogue (2007) from any country at this website. Where is yours from?

They're all listed if you click on "Display all releases all countries" on the right side of the page.

https://www.blu-ray.com/Rogue/28467/#Releases

[cheez avenger]

Ah, and now that I'm looking at it I may have gotten the Canadian Alliance version, which is Unrated. It looks more familiar. It was part of a group buy on a different forum years ago.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have only watched this on blu-ray. I have since acquired the 4K disc; maybe a rewatch is in order?

Definitely. The 4K looks stunning and the audio is a nice upgrade too.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The U.K. disc is region free.

Thanks, I found it.

Odd that it only showed up when I set my search country to "UK" instead of "global."

This version is the 99 minute unrated cut if the time shown on the rear cover art is accurate. It is listed as region free as well, not that that matters to me, but the price is a bit high at Amazon.uk at 30 pounds.

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Ah, and now that I'm looking at it I may have gotten the Canadian Alliance version, which is Unrated. It looks more familiar. It was part of a group buy on a different forum years ago.

I could not find a Canadian version when setting my search to "Canada."

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I could not find a Canadian version when setting my search to "Canada."

You can easily find all releases from every region just by going to a movie's releases page and clicking on "Display all releases all countries" on the right side of the page. It will also show all DVD releases and every bundle that includes the movie.

https://www.blu-ray.com/Rogue/28467/#Releases

[flyry]

Been a pretty good year for catalog 4k. Received Lost Boys and Poltergeist.

Still have Scream 2, Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Casablanca and A Christmas Story to come.

i sold a few of my duplicates, sadly even some criterions since they were so late to the party and others released 4k version of those movies. even parted with some steelbooks and lenticulars that were Blu-rays of movies i have upraded to 4k. figured i could use the disc space and i'll never watch the features. and most are on youtube anyway.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

So does a shoplifter. Possession alone does not grant a license.

• When you buy a disc you are also buying the license to play the content on the disc.
• When you sell a disc you are also selling the license to play the content on the disc.
• When you are given a disc you are also receiving the license to play the content on the disc.
• When you give away a disc you are also giving away the license to play the content on the disc.
• If your disc is stolen you are still the legal owner of the disc and therefore still retain the license to play the content on the disc.
• If your disc is destroyed you are still the legal owner of the disc and therefore retain the license to play the content on the disc.

The license to play the content on a disc is always held by the last legal owner of the disc (and only the last legal owner of the disc).

That should clear up all issues with theft without entertaining your ridiculous notion that all previous owners of a disc retain the license to its content.

[Vilya]

[Wendell R. Breland]

@ Steedeel

From The Digital Bits:

Also, BBC Earth is releasing the new 6-part nature documentary series Frozen Planet II on Blu-ray and 4K Ultra HD in the UK on 10/17. The series is narrated by Sir David Attenborough.

But no info yet on a US release. Guess it is just a matter of time.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

@ Steedeel

From The Digital Bits:



But no info yet on a US release. Guess it is just a matter of time.

Thanks, looking forward to it.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Side note, I asked him if he calibrated any of the new Sonys, to which he replied “Yes” and without asking for an opinion, he said that they can’t touch the JVC due to the tone mapping. He said that they are marginally better than last years models, but still are lacking

By all accounts, Kris Deering, Dave Harper and other calibrators, the JVC models win over the Sony’s in the contrast comparison. The Sony’s win in the sharpness category, the two that I have saw have virtually no color fringing.

Was disappointed with my Audio Advice viewing of the Sony VPL-XW6000ESW, I wanted to see what the video settings were but they had limited control using a Control4. The sales guy finally got to the menu but could not navigate the settings so I gave up. I had my Spears and Munsil UHD HDR Benchmark disc and asked to put it in a UHD Blu-ray player and to set it to “video thru” but again the guy was clueless. So I just looked at the multi-burst patterns and the demo material at 10000 & 1000 DV and 2000 HDR10.

Without knowing the projector and player settings the viewing was worthless to me. I will say the 3840 burst was clearly reproduced, my Sony projector will not. Will have to look into this more as the Nyquist filter should remove this burst. Sometime back I asked Stacey about this and he said his LG TV could reproduce this burst.

I will contact Atlanta Home Theater (here) to see what projectors they have on display.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

I will contact Atlanta Home Theater (here) to see what projectors they have on display.

I am in the Atlanta area. I will have to check them out.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Thanks, I found it.

Odd that it only showed up when I set my search country to "UK" instead of "global."

This version is the 99 minute unrated cut if the time shown on the rear cover art is accurate. It is listed as region free as well, not that that matters to me, but the price is a bit high at Amazon.uk at 30 pounds.





I could not find a Canadian version when setting my search to "Canada."

The link Penguin posted shows you every country's release. You click on the upper right hand link that says something like "show all countries releases" and it brings up a list.


https://www.blu-ray.com/Rogue/28467/#Releases

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

The link Penguin posted shows you every country's release. You click on the upper right hand link that says something like "show all countries releases" and it brings up a list.

Thanks, I saw and thanked his post.

I have always just left the top search box set to "blu-ray" or "DVD" and changed the drop down menu to whatever country I wanted to search. I would usually select "global" thinking that would show all releases worldwide. Clearly, it doesn't, so going forward I will do my searches the way you and he suggested.

That Canadian version is going for $120 Canadian when I looked! I don't know that I like this movie enough to upgrade my DVD at that price.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Thanks, I saw and thanked his post.

I have always just left the top search box set to "blu-ray" or "DVD" and changed the drop down menu to whatever country I wanted to search. I would usually select "global" thinking that would show all releases worldwide. Clearly, it doesn't, so going forward I will do my searches the way you and he suggested.

That Canadian version is going for $120 Canadian when I looked! I don't know that I like this movie enough to upgrade my DVD at that price.

Yeah, looks like it's OOP. I guess the UK is the only way to go at this point if you want a hardcopy of it. I don't recall if it's unrated or not.

EDIT - I'll have to dig up my copy once and for all to see what I actually bought. A bit later.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Yeah, looks like it's OOP. I guess the UK is the only way to go at this point if you want a hardcopy of it. I don't recall if it's unrated or not.

EDIT - I'll have to dig up my copy once and for all to see what I actually bought. A bit later.

It doesn't explicitly say so, but it shows the same running time on the back cover as the unrated cut: 99 minutes vs. 93 minutes for the theatrical. Of course, these covers are not always accurate, so there's that to consider.

Amazon (US) has used copies of the unrated cut on blu-ray for $42.65 and up, so that's an option, too. I haven't checked fleabay.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Ender14

I am in the Atlanta area. I will have to check them out.

If you do let us know what you think.

Was at their old store several years ago, went to the new location in the link but they were just finishing construction. The lady did let us peek inside. We will have to go next week or wait till November because we like to stay in Helen GA and that town is normally booked for October.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

If you do let us know what you think.

Was at their old store several years ago, went to the new location in the link but they were just finishing construction. The lady did let us peek inside. We will have to go next week or wait till November because we like to stay in Helen GA and that town is normally booked for October.

I'll let you know once I make it there to take a look.

Yeah, I love Helen but don't go near it in October.

[bhampton]

I can relate to the frustration of wanting a tech demo from someone who doesn't know how to use the item.

Way back in 1999 I was learning about CRT Front Projectors. A store near me called Sound Perfection had a show room. I asked for a demo but the sales person couldn't get an image on the screen.

Sometimes the sales people are not enthusiasts.