Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I am thanks, although it’s still on my mind.

Going to watch war film, ‘The 800’ before the family pile in over the weekend!

Nothing like a good war movie to lift one's spirits.

I don't know this title; is this it?

It looks very interesting; let us know what you think.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Nothing like a good war movie to lift one's spirits.

I don't know this title; is this it?

It looks very interesting; let us know what you think.

Unless you can speak Mandarin or read German you'll probably want one with English subtitles:

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Nothing like a good war movie to lift one's spirits.

I don't know this title; is this it?

It looks very interesting; let us know what you think.

Yeah, it’s the Cine Asia version on the bottom right of Penguin’s post.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Unless you can speak Mandarin or read German you'll probably want one with English subtitles:

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yeah, it’s the Cine Asia version on the bottom right of Penguin’s post.

I didn't see the others because I simply searched for the title as you had typed it: "The 800."

Nice to know that it is available with English subtitles.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Interesting US streaming news:

Parks: Prime Video Tops Netflix in Paid U.S. Subscribers

Amazon Prime Video, the ecommerce leader’s longstanding streaming video platform, has overtaken Netflix as the No. 1 subscription-based VOD service in the U.S., according to new data from Parks Associates. It marks the first time Netflix has not topped the Dallas-based firm’s annual chart of Top 10 SVOD services in the U.S. Additionally, Peacock entered the chart for the first time in 2022, while Showtime moved off the list.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I didn't see the others because I simply searched for the title as you had typed it: "The 800."

Nice to know that it is available with English subtitles.

If you click on the movie title on any Blu-ray page you'll go to the movie's page. If you then click on "releases" and then "Display all releases all countries" you can see every Blu-ray, DVD, and digital release for the movie in Blu-ray.com's database.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Interesting US streaming news:

Parks: Prime Video Tops Netflix in Paid U.S. Subscribers

Rings of Power pushed them over the threshold I'd assume.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Rings of Power pushed them over the threshold I'd assume.

That, “The English” and “Thursday Night Football” probably has not hurt their appeal.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Nothing like a good war movie to lift one's spirits.

I don't know this title; is this it?

It looks very interesting; let us know what you think.

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

That, “The English” and “Thursday Night Football” probably has not hurt their appeal.

The English must be a joint Amazon/BBC production, we get it on broadcast and BBC IPlayer streaming service here. More interestingly, a Blu-ray is scheduled for late December so going to blind buy and skip it on catch up.

Vilya, don’t know why I have quoted you in this post, apologies.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The English must be a joint Amazon/BBC production, we get it on broadcast and BBC IPlayer streaming service here. More interestingly, a Blu-ray is scheduled for late December so going to blind buy and skip it on catch up.

Production companies from IMDb:

• All3Media
• Amazon Studios
• BBC Studios
• British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC)
• Drama Republic

[Wendell R. Breland]

“The English” is mostly dialogue TV in DD+ 5.1 but they should have showed a little more love than 192 Kbps for audio. The video is not bad, UHD at 15 Mbps. That is IIRC, not at home right now.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, it looks like my fears are coming true in relation to the tv screen in our homes. (At least for Europe for now). EU have confirmed they won’t be reviewing the restrictions and the rule will stand as of March next year. Looks like I’m clinging onto the projector and for everything else it might have to be a laptop when my current TVs pack in.

Confirmation by Lee Stewart in another thread.

there is a reason in the article you posted last weekend the Samsung rep called it a none-issue.

let me put it this way

a lot of the electricity used by the tv goes to create a lot of light, how much electricity will depend on technology (think of incandescent light bulb vs LED,
for an easy example) the size of the screen (why there are different limits for different TV sizes) and brightness (why they are looking at SDR and not HDR) so 8k or 4k is not an issue

some of the electricity can go to extras. speakers use electricity so does wi-fi.... again, no difference between 8k and 4k

some electricity can go to image processing. This one is tricky. if the input is 1080p both 4k and 8k TVs will need to upscale, if you have uhd content the 4k does not need extra resolution processing while the 8k does. But that is why the rule is not global and 8k was free of it until now the test will use an 8k input on an 8k device and 4k input on a 4k display. so this thing that could be an issue is not

lastly image creation. the only tech that needs more electricity for that is DLP (more mirrors to actuate) but there are no DLP Tvs. If an LCD/SXRD use pixel shifting to make higher fake resolution that too will use more poer but that too is restricted to projectors so not applicable.



It is easy to look at 8k and say 8=2x4 so it will need a lot more electricity and how will they ever do that. But that is just missing the forest for the trees.

That being said because 8k was exempt until this law comes into effect normal SDR was set at a higher Brightness setting for the same screen and so manufacturers will need to tweak the settings save new "normal SDR" settings and get the TVs tested to get official energy guide ratings. But it is not the insurmountable 8k is dead click bait it is portrayed as.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Also, high end and micro LED 4K (most high end). This feels like massive kick in the bollocks after the shitty few years we have had.

even if we assume there are some model (because of extra features or something) that could not make the cut. The law only applies to consumer grade TVs and not professional grade TVs. So the TV would still be able to be sold in Europe on the professional side. That could mean it can't be sold at Walmart but people that really want hi-end don't buy consumer grade at Walmart.

Ps you are no longer part of the EU so does this even affect you?

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I am happy to report some personal good news, but it's top secret.

[Show spoiler]I saw a surgeon today and he said that I do not need surgery at this time. I was worried that my Christmas was going to be spent in a hospital recuperating from another scalpel attack.

I am verry happy for you.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

even if we assume there are some model (because of extra features or something) that could not make the cut. The law only applies to consumer grade TVs and not professional grade TVs. So the TV would still be able to be sold in Europe on the professional side. That could mean it can't be sold at Walmart but people that really want hi-end don't buy consumer grade at Walmart.

Ps you are no longer part of the EU so does this even affect you?

Apparently, it would affect us due to the way tvs are distributed in Europe.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Apparently, it would affect us due to the way tvs are distributed in Europe.

I will assume UK is part of the European division of the company the same way Canada falls under US for most companies but doesn't the UK use a different plug so don't TVs need to be manufactured or at the least boxed for the UK market?

(i.e EU
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1b78Mq...r-Plug-16A.jpg
UK
https://www.audiomate.co.uk/storeima...egs/E301AA.jpg

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Apparently, it would affect us due to the way tvs are distributed in Europe.

I'm probably completely wrong here but I would have thought a TV set, say for example a Samsung made in China, would be exported directly to the UK from that country rather than coming in via the EU. Like I say mate, I'm not sure.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I will assume UK is part of the European division of the company the same way Canada falls under US for most companies but doesn't the UK use a different plug so don't TVs need to be manufactured or at the least boxed for the UK market?

(i.e EU
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1b78Mq...r-Plug-16A.jpg
UK
https://www.audiomate.co.uk/storeima...egs/E301AA.jpg

Originally Posted by CV19

I'm probably completely wrong here but I would have thought a TV set, say for example a Samsung made in China, would be exported directly to the UK from that country rather than coming in via the EU. Like I say mate, I'm not sure.

I wish I could find the article I read but it may have been incorrect to start with. Will try to find some clarification guys.

What you both suggest makes sense.

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I wish I could find the article I read but it may have been incorrect to start with. Will try to find some clarification guys.

What you both suggest makes sense.

We have had goods being shipped in directly from China (and other Asian countries) in the past, but I guess it's possible that alternative shipping arrangements could have been made with the EU before Brexit - that's the part I'm not sure about.

[cheez avenger]

My copy of Clerks III 4K disc and Green Knight A24 Shop exclusive 4K disc just arrived! I guess I will be watching those this weekend.