Off the air HD antenna with HDMI?

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by jschaffe

I have the same Sharp LC-46D92U TV. Before I hook it up using a wall mount, I want to know which inputs feed their audio through to the optical digital audio output connection. The manual is useless on this one. Does anyone know?

Lots of sets will feed audio from external components such as set top boxes and disc players out the optical port. But, the output is usually limited to stereo. You can generally only get DD 5.1 from the set's internal tuner and you can never get DTS to pass through a TV. Televisions are not designed to be audio switchers. That's work for receivers.

[jschaffe]

Originally Posted by BIslander

Televisions are not designed to be audio switchers. That's work for receivers.

Tell that to my wife...she hates, hates, hates using both the TV and a receiver! I had nothing but trouble in our old setup.

Besides, my Denon 3600 receiver doesn't have HDMI, or I would have done it anyway!

And frankly I hate the duplication os source switching in both the TV and Receiver, seems much simpler to do it in the TV and feed the audio out...

Of course, the high-end receiver circuitry is probably better anyway, but none of this solves my problem...no HDMI on the receiver.

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by jschaffe

Tell that to my wife...she hates, hates, hates using both the TV and a receiver! I had nothing but trouble in our old setup.

Harmony remotes solve all those family issues. We have a receiver without HDMI, a plasma with a single HDMI input, four disc players, a cable DVR, and an HDMI switch. You push one button on the remote and all the devices power up/down and make whatever switches are needed to route video and audio. The buttons on the remote then control the appropriate devices for the activity - volume on the receiver, channels on the cable box, shuttle controls on the DVR, whatever you need them to do. One remote does it all. My wife and kids, including an eight year old daughter, have no problems running everything. The remote may be the single best piece of AV equipment we own.

[groove93]

This is the back of my LCD.

The cable off by itself with the lil blue strip is a Coaxial connection to my OTA Antenna.

The Clear cable is an Optical Cable going into the Optical in of my Receiver. This enables me to hear Dolby Digital 5.1 audio coming from many broadcasts through my reciever.


There's alot of great information given in this thread. I would start out small with regards to an Antenna just to see what type of reception you can receive. If you're able to get a good number of stations, then take the antenna back within 30 days and upgrade to a larger one to really dial in those stations.

Remember that this is a digital signal and it does not degrade like the old analog signals of the past. If it's in, it's in. If it's out, it's out. This is why I say, start out small.

[Coolmeadow Kid]

I know I'm resurrecting an old thread...please don't kill me...I didn't want to rehash information that was already here to find.
So far I've not been able to get my ARC on my Samsung UN55D7000 to play the audio when on antenna through my Yamaha RX-V671 receiver. I have the HDMI cable from the ARC input to channel 1 on the receiver. I have no problem streaming content off the internet from my computer, but it goes to the receiver first. Would it work to get a tuner card for the computer and hook up via HDMI to the receiver to get the sound? Right now my video is built into the motherboard. I'm guessing to keep from having to switch cables to go back and forth to the monitor, that I would need to add a video card, or is there a way to "split" the HDMI signal to both? Thanks for any insight you can offer. Jim.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Coolmeadow Kid

I know I'm resurrecting an old thread...please don't kill me...I didn't want to rehash information that was already here to find.
So far I've not been able to get my ARC on my Samsung UN55D7000 to play the audio when on antenna through my Yamaha RX-V671 receiver. I have the HDMI cable from the ARC input to channel 1 on the receiver. I have no problem streaming content off the internet from my computer. Would it work to get a tuner card for the computer and hook up via HDMI to the receiver to get the sound? Right now my video is built into the motherboard. I'm guessing to keep from having to switch cables to go back and forth to the monitor, that I would need to add a video card, or is there a way to "split" the HDMI signal to both? Thanks for any insight you can offer. Jim.

http://www.manualowl.com/m/Samsung/U...92768?page=306 Also, follow the procedure on Page 21 of your Yamaha V671 owner's manual. Make sure Control for HDMI is on.

[crackinhedz]

the ARC channel on your TV is HDMI #2...if still no sound from over the air channels you can connect an optical cable to the receiver.

[Coolmeadow Kid]

Thanks guys! I haven't taken the time to try the steps that Ray set out. I got a little busy today with a chair refinish and some guests over. But I will get to it in the next day or two. I already had the HDMI cable in port 2 on the TV and didn't get anything, but I need to follow up on the sequence and the page in the Yamaha manual to see if there is something I don't have enabled in the receiver. If that doesn't work for some reason, I'll see if the optical cable I have will reach. It's plugged into the BlueRay player at the moment. Can't remember why. Not sure it is long enough to reach, but I'll see. Thank you for your help. I'll report back when I get it going.....or not. Jim.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Coolmeadow Kid

Thanks guys! I haven't taken the time to try the steps that Ray set out. I got a little busy today with a chair refinish and some guests over. But I will get to it in the next day or two. I already had the HDMI cable in port 2 on the TV and didn't get anything, but I need to follow up on the sequence and the page in the Yamaha manual to see if there is something I don't have enabled in the receiver. If that doesn't work for some reason, I'll see if the optical cable I have will reach. It's plugged into the BlueRay player at the moment. Can't remember why. Not sure it is long enough to reach, but I'll see. Thank you for your help. I'll report back when I get it going.....or not. Jim.

You should be able to get it to work without using an optical cable. I had a bit of a learning curve when I replaced my AVR recently. Thats how I discovered that Control for HDMI needs to be on for the ARC to work. Also, turn the TV on first, then the AVR. If necessary, contact Yamaha and/or Samsung for help. Good luck.

[Sancho Panza]

I'd love to have an antenna that outputs to HDMI, so my AVR could upconvert OTA signals to 1080p, before displaying them on my TV. But, that would probably be complicated and cost prohibitive.

[BIslander]

Your TV I already upconverting, as needed, in order to display any content that is not broadcast in 1080. And, it likely does a better job than your AVR would do. The television's HDMI output is limited to audio. TVs don't have HDMI outputs.

[Sancho Panza]

nor do antennas, which is the point; and the TV is NOT doing a very good job, otherwise 480i OTA would be upcoverted to 1080p, as would 720p OTA and 1080i OTA...antenna via HDMI to AVR, AVR to TV via HDMI...

cable box upconverts to 1080i; AVR upconverts that to 1080p

[ZIPPO]

Originally Posted by Sancho Panza

I'd love to have an antenna that outputs to HDMI, so my AVR could upconvert OTA signals to 1080p, before displaying them on my TV. But, that would probably be complicated and cost prohibitive.

Wouldn't using an external HDTV tuner with an HDMI output allow this?
Antenna>HDTV tuner>AVR>TV

> antenna cable
> HDMI cable



They're pretty affordable.
http://www.ChannelMaster.com/Digital...7001_s/287.htm
http://www.epvision.com/HDTVSTB/phdvrxmain.htm

[ZIPPO]

Originally Posted by BIslander

Your TV I already upconverting, as needed, in order to display any content that is not broadcast in 1080. And, it likely does a better job than your AVR would do. The television's HDMI output is limited to audio. TVs don't have HDMI outputs.

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[Sancho Panza]

that's it; not sure worth the money, unless I was going 100% OTA

Originally Posted by ZIPPO

Wouldn't using an external HDTV tuner with an HDMI output allow this?
Antenna>HDTV tuner>AVR>TV

> antenna cable
> HDMI cable



They're pretty affordable.
http://www.ChannelMaster.com/Digital...7001_s/287.htm
http://www.epvision.com/HDTVSTB/phdvrxmain.htm

[ZIPPO]

Originally Posted by Sancho Panza

nor do antennas, which is the point; and the TV is NOT doing a very good job, otherwise 480i OTA would be upcoverted to 1080p, as would 720p OTA and 1080i OTA...antenna via HDMI to AVR, AVR to TV via HDMI...

cable box upconverts to 1080i; AVR upconverts that to 1080p

A top shelf video processing solution found in todays AVRs, probably would do a better job than the TV does.

BIslander is correct. If you are using a fixed pixel display( plasma or LCD ), the TV upscales everything it displays to 1080p. 480i OTA signals even when upscaled, will never look as good as true HDTV or 1080p Blu-ray.

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by Sancho Panza

nor do antennas, which is the point; and the TV is NOT doing a very good job, otherwise 480i OTA would be upcoverted to 1080p, as would 720p OTA and 1080i OTA...antenna via HDMI to AVR, AVR to TV via HDMI...

cable box upconverts to 1080i; AVR upconverts that to 1080p

Completing the last line for you... TV converts everything to its native resolution. It has to. That's the only way it can display a picture. The 1080i output of the cable box is displayed as 1080p. A 480i composite input is displayed as 1080p. So is a 480 OTA signal. Everything is displayed that way. Unless your AVR has a better upconverter, which is doubtful, it won't give you a better picture from SD sources than the set produces itself.

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by ZIPPO

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When both a TV and and AVR support Audio Return Channel, the TV's HDMI input can be used to back feed audio to the AVR. That is the only type of HDMI output on any TV. The OP is talking about outputting HDMI video from his TV, which is not possible.

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by ZIPPO

A top shelf video processing solution found in todays AVRs, probably would do a better job than the TV does.

Some AVRs, yes, but not most.

[Sancho Panza]

[quote name="David6ave" url="/t/938108/plush-1080p/0_100#post_12207222"]alot of 1080p tv sets use pass thru technology where whatever signal is coming in thats what will be displayed. i know the mitsubishi set will only display a 1080p signal to display so whatever signal that comes in whether its sd 480p or 720- the set will automatically upconvert to 1080p there arent alot of sets out there that do that as far as i have seen

but the sd picture quality on the mitsubishi is sparkling![/quote]