The Three Musketeers Review Thread (Spoilers)

[Lord_Stewie]

Updated OP thanks to Jason.

[Trogdor2010]

Originally Posted by Spike Killer

I have no idea how Paul W.S. Anderson has a job making movies. I have yet to see a movie of his (Resident Evil, AVP, among others) that I didn't think was complete utter shit. The people who write the video games could make a better movie than his shit. He is terrible. I always get the feeling that when a Studio wants a cheap, predictible and modestly profitable movie, they turn to this guy.

I don't know how you can take a good franchise and make such terrible movies. I just don't get it. I will never see another one of his movies, EVER.

Are you really sure?

Hello

I hope this comment won't get some angry rant, but I believe this, don't like it, don't read it! The moderators are on the hunt.

I don't really think the writers of the Resident Evil games are any better than those that did the unoriginal action films. In fact, and I personally believe this, out of almost virtually all games, if you were to view them subjectively to films, literature and poetry, even the best examples of games that comment on such artistic views, they are ALL sensationalist teenage fantasies, period. I enjoy video games the way they are, but that is a purely unadulterated insult to compare game designers and writers to the finest poets and literature, because many modern gamers have never experience it beyond school instituted literature and commercialized so called "Art" films. The main thing is the nature of games, the word "game" should just end it, you "control" the way the story is made, not the artist, that alone should end an argument right there. You can enjoy your psuedo-"art" games (Bioshock, ICO, Shadow of the Collosus), while the rest of us can enjoy games the way they are made (To play a game), and go and enjoy actual "art" in the form of literature and even film.

I hope this will not offend you. Cause sweet talking seems to be the way to avoid online harrassment.

As for the new three musketeers movie, we are seriously losing originality here, as alot of commercial productions seem to adapt everything they can find, from comic books, to remakes, to million dollar selling books no one reads, to even toy products. We can blame one thing here and that is the fault of the consumer AKA us, even the most individual elitist snob are suckered everyday to buy into this kind of crap. Just run the damn TV everyday and make us forfeit our freedom so we can shut the damn commercial OFF, but then again there are millions, no scratch that, billions of morons, from those poor as rut to even rich as evil, yes even the artsy, snobby smart ass elitist pricks that think they are better than us, and yes even me, buy anything we see in a commercial. Cause god knows what, they got money and they are willing to spend what is literally their capital property to see some sexy men in tights and scandily clad women for their viewing pleasure. We are now in the age of consumerism where there is no return. We are now poor feeding our capital to the billion pound pigs that eat our children alive for breakfast and dress as "Good O'l People" we are raped for anything we can buy, but we submit because it keeps us for lack of better word "Living". The rich and fat bastards are what is tearing the economic structure down and keeping ALL of us stupid. People say I am smart, but in reality, no, but rather alot of you are morons that buy into conspiracies on TV. So to put it simply, the pigs that are destroying us are what keeping us alive and civilized.

Man this conspiracy crap is very fun to right .

[Spike Killer]

Originally Posted by Trogdor2010

Are you really sure?

Hello

I hope this comment won't get some angry rant, but I believe this, don't like it, don't read it! The moderators are on the hunt.

I don't really think the writers of the Resident Evil games are any better than those that did the unoriginal action films. In fact, and I personally believe this, out of almost virtually all games, if you were to view them subjectively to films, literature and poetry, even the best examples of games that comment on such artistic views, they are ALL sensationalist teenage fantasies, period. I enjoy video games the way they are, but that is a purely unadulterated insult to compare game designers and writers to the finest poets and literature, because many modern gamers have never experience it beyond school instituted literature and commercialized so called "Art" films. The main thing is the nature of games, the word "game" should just end it, you "control" the way the story is made, not the artist, that alone should end an argument right there. You can enjoy your psuedo-"art" games (Bioshock, ICO, Shadow of the Collosus), while the rest of us can enjoy games the way they are made (To play a game), and go and enjoy actual "art" in the form of literature and even film.

I hope this will not offend you. Cause sweet talking seems to be the way to avoid online harrassment.

You don't have to worry about me. I'm a young adult who enjoys a good discussion.

Your post does not offend me in the least. When someone responds with substance, it allows me to respond with substance (hopefully). I would agree with your comment that video games writing is mostly bad. I confess, it's been a very long time since I've played Resident Evil. What I do remember is a simple premise. You have stranded police officers attacked by mutant dogs, retreat to a mansion. The plot continues by the gradual solving of the mystery in the mansion. But what I find best about video games is the ability to create something beyond the "main" story. What I remember most from those games is the various "diaries" scattered throughout the mansion that give clues to the life of the people who lived at the mansion, who created the virus, who got infected by the virus, and who describe the early stages of infection. It is fascinating, and while not part of the "main" story, it is far more interesting in my opinion.

Back to the comparison to video games and movies. To respond to this specifically

they are ALL sensationalist teenage fantasies, period

I would agree. And when I was younger, I was a much bigger fan of video games. Like you, I think, I am beginning to more objectively evaluate those games that were important to me in my youth. For all of the faults of those games, I don't think you can argue with the fact that the games (RE1 in this case) was memorable, you remember the music, the gameplay, and the brief moments of character interaction. Despite the difficulty (to me at least) I wanted to beat the game to see what happens. That makes it an effective video game in my opinion.

For all its faults Resident Evil is an effective video game. It is one of the best of its kind.

Resident Evil the movie is not an effective movie, and it is certainly not one of the best of its kind.

If the same amount of care was spent on the movie, as was the equal standard in making the best possible video game - then the movie would be much better in my opinion. The care and drive to make the best possible product no matter what it is, video game, television program, movie, is always most important. It's the difference between Batman Begins and the recent Fantastic Four movies.

PS -
I'm not saying that Batman Begins is the greatest movie. But it is effective.

In addition, I read your comment about video games not expressing an artistic view. I strongly disagree with that. But I don't care to respond on this moment in time. I will eventually if there is interest in continuing the discussion.

[Trogdor2010]

Originally Posted by Spike Killer

You don't have to worry about me. I'm a young adult who enjoys a good discussion.

Your post does not offend me in the least. When someone responds with substance, it allows me to respond with substance (hopefully). I would agree with your comment that video games writing is mostly bad. I confess, it's been a very long time since I've played Resident Evil. What I do remember is a simple premise. You have stranded police officers attacked by mutant dogs, retreat to a mansion. The plot continues by the gradual solving of the mystery in the mansion. But what I find best about video games is the ability to create something beyond the "main" story. What I remember most from those games is the various "diaries" scattered throughout the mansion that give clues to the life of the people who lived at the mansion, who created the virus, who got infected by the virus, and who describe the early stages of infection. It is fascinating, and while not part of the "main" story, it is far more interesting in my opinion.

Back to the comparison to video games and movies. To respond to this specifically

I would agree. And when I was younger, I was a much bigger fan of video games. Like you, I think, I am beginning to more objectively evaluate those games that were important to me in my youth. For all of the faults of those games, I don't think you can argue with the fact that the games (RE1 in this case) was memorable, you remember the music, the gameplay, and the brief moments of character interaction. Despite the difficulty (to me at least) I wanted to beat the game to see what happens. That makes it an effective video game in my opinion.

For all its faults Resident Evil is an effective video game. It is one of the best of its kind.

Resident Evil the movie is not an effective movie, and it is certainly not one of the best of its kind.

If the same amount of care was spent on the movie, as was the equal standard in making the best possible video game - then the movie would be much better in my opinion. The care and drive to make the best possible product no matter what it is, video game, television program, movie, is always most important. It's the difference between Batman Begins and the recent Fantastic Four movies.

PS -
I'm not saying that Batman Begins is the greatest movie. But it is effective.

In addition, I read your comment about video games not expressing an artistic view. I strongly disagree with that. But I don't care to respond on this moment in time. I will eventually if there is interest in continuing the discussion.

Hello spike.

I'm personally am more interested in the conspiracy comment I put up, but yes I appreciated the intelligent comments you've posted. I also appreciate that you didn't go on a violent tantrum as some posters do, or worse, sick a moderator on me.

Enjoying sensationalism isn't a bad thing, but it's people that try to claim sensationalism as art is what I don't think makes sense. To comment on the the amount of effort put into projects, you have to take into account what kind of effort they put in. There are some that spent only a couple of weeks on a project that requires little work and it can be a masterpiece, while there are projects (this happens frequently with many games and art films) that spent many years to create and the end result is either generic or a disaster all around. They frequnetly lose interest in the project they might not or ever will finish, but they may end up taking liberties from other recent projects.

You have to also think as we have experience things at an impressionable age, we may take some truly unoriginal or uninspired thing as something of what we may call art. There really is a difficulty to define what art really is, but there is some that say that what gives you a feeling from what you experience is what art is, which is why there are many people that believe video games are art. I do however believe anything you use that influence you could be what gives you a feeling to it, yet that same feeling could be accounted to sports or science, which are more sensational than creative or artistic. That might need to be observed if you take it to account.

P.S. Bring on the conspiracy theories

[GreenScar]

So Ummm, two different movies then?!

Just a month after it was reported that director Doug Liman (The Bourne Identity) would be directing Warner Bros' The Three Musketeers, The Hollywood Reporter's Heat Vision Blog is reporting that director/producer Paul W. S. Anderson is stepping up his own planned contemporary 3D version of Alexandre Dumas' French swashbucklers with the casting of eight actors.

According to the story, Logan Lerman, most recently seen in Chris Columbus' Percy Jackson & The Olympians: The Lightning Thief will headline the movie playing D'Artagnan, leader of the other Musketeers, played by Ray (Punisher: War Zone) Stevenson (Porthos), Luke (Clash of the Titans) Evans (Athos) and Matthew (Pride and Prejudice) Macfadyen (Aramis). Academy Award winner Christoph Waltz and Casino Royale and "Clash" star Mads Mikkelsen will join the cast as the primary villains Cardinal Richelieu and Rochefort respectively. It's probably a surprise to absolutely no one that Anderson's own wife Milla Jovovich has been cast as Milady de Winter, Athos' ex-girlfriend.

Orlando Bloom, star of "The Pirates of the Caribbean" movies, is in negotiations to play the Duke of Buckingham but hasn't been confirmed yet.

[tommyboy81]

wow haven't heard anything about Orlando Bloom in a long time.

[detective392]

Hate most of the cast except a few. Logan Lerman doesn't seem like a musketeer at all and doesn't even look the part. Also I am probably the only one but I am sick of Milla Jovovich I find her acting not really that good and am one of the few who don't find her attractive at all.

[Banned User]

What a shame. If you read the book its actually one of the best there is. A lot darker then most movies portrayed

[Lord_Stewie]

UPDATE: MAY 19TH, 2010:

Juno Temple in Talks to Co-Star in Paul W.S. Anderson’s 3D Adaptation of THE THREE MUSKETEERS

Juno Temple (Year One) has joined the more-talented-than-he-deserves cast of Paul W.S. Anderson’s 3D adaptation of The Three Musketeers. THR reports that Temple is in negotiations to play the Queen Consort of France, Anne of Austria. If she signs on, Temple would join Christoph Waltz, Mads Mikkelsen, Logan Lerman, Ray Stevenson, Luke Evans, Matthew Macfayden, and Milla Jovovich. Temple recently wrapped filming on Dirty Girl, which also co-stars Jovovich.

Temple was most recently seen in Noah Baumbach’s Greenberg. In addition to Dirty Girl, Temple is also starring in the indie films Little Birds (formerly Goodnight Moon) and Jack and Diane.

[Lord_Stewie]

Last we checked, Orlando Bloom had been offered the “bad guy” role in Paul W.S. Anderson’s upcoming adaptation of The Three Musketeers. It seems it met his English standards, as Bloom has signed on for the role of the Duke of Buckingham. Fellow Brit, comedian James Corden, followed suitand will portray the servant Planchet. Bloom and Corden join a cast that already includes:

Christoph Waltz — Cardinal Richelieu
Logan Lerman — D’Artagnan
Matthew MacFadyen — Athos
Ray Stevenson — Porthos
Luke Evans — Aramis
Milla Jovovich — M’lady De Winter
Mads Mikkelsen — Rochefort

With this much casting done, it looks more and more likely that Bloom and Corden have hopped on board the adaptation that will hit theaters first. Variety reports that Summit has slated a summer 2011 release in the U.S. for their Musketeers, and sold out all international rights this past week at Cannes. Meanwhile, casting is either not yet underway or tightly under wraps for the Liman-directed Musketeers. Warner Bros. has not thrown in the towel yet, with a planned fall start date for their production.

Here’s the synopsis for the original Alexandre Dumas novel via Amazon:

A historical romance, The Three Musketeers tells the story of the early adventures of the young Gascon gentleman, D’Artagnan and his three friends from the regiment of the King’s Musketeers – Athos, Porthos and Aramis. Under the watchful eye of their patron M. de Treville, the four defend the honour of the regiment against the guards of Cardinal Richelieu, and the honour of the queen against the machinations of the Cardinal himself as the power struggles of seventeenth century France are vividly played out in the background. But their most dangerous encounter is with the Cardinal’s spy, Milady, one of literature’s most memorable female villains, and Dumas employs all his fast-paced narrative skills to bring this enthralling novel to a breathtakingly gripping and dramatic conclusion.

[vegeta88]

New Three Musketeers Germany Set Photos

Filming for Paul W.S. Anderson's The Three Musketeers has been taking place at the Würzburg Residenz in Würzburg, Germany and we've got photos from the shoot that you can view below.

Scheduled for an October 14, 2011 release, the action adventure stars Logan Lerman, Christoph Waltz, Matthew Macfadyen, Ray Stevenson, Luke Evans, Milla Jovovich, Mads Mikkelsen, James Corden and Orlando Bloom.

The film is a re-imagination of the Alexandre Dumas classic, shot entirely in 3D, in which the hot-headed young D'Artagnan joins forces with three veteran Musketeers to prevent the villainous Cardinal Richelieu from seizing the French throne and engulfing Europe in war.

Read more: New Three Musketeers Germany Set Photos - ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movie...#ixzz0zYqMMPRJ

Link to more images.

EDIT: I don't know if these pics are too big. I can add spoiler tags if necessary.
EDIT2: The pics aren't showing up for me.
EDIT3: Win

[RocShemp]

And there goes another dream project of mine.

For the best, I suppose. I envisioned it as 5 movies and completely in French.

That said, I like the casting of Stevenson as Porthos. In the books he was always a big strong guy

[Show spoiler]who was sadly crushed to death during the events of the third part of The Vicomte of Bragelonne: Ten Years Later, itself titled "The Man in the Iron Mask."

EDIT: Great pics, vegeta88.

EDIT 2: I don't get why it even needs to be in 3D but with Logan Lerman, Christoph Waltz, Matthew Macfadyen, Ray Stevenson, Luke Evans, Milla Jovovich, Mads Mikkelsen, James Corden and Orlando Bloom in the cast, my ass will be in the hteater for this.

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by RocShemp

And there goes another dream project of mine.

For the best, I suppose. I envisioned it as 5 movies and completely in French.

That said, I like the casting of Stevenson as Porthos. In the books he was always a big strong guy

[Show spoiler]who was sadly crushed to death during the events of the third part of The Vicomte of Bragelonne: Ten Years Later, itself titled "The Man in the Iron Mask."

EDIT: Great pics, vegeta88.

EDIT 2: I don't get why it even needs to be in 3D but with Logan Lerman, Christoph Waltz, Matthew Macfadyen, Ray Stevenson, Luke Evans, Milla Jovovich, Mads Mikkelsen, James Corden and Orlando Bloom in the cast, my ass will be in the hteater for this.

Glad you enjoy the pictures Can you view them on this page?

+1 for the cast Some of them are just top notch.
As for 3D, to me a movie doesn't need to be 3D just as we don't "need" hi-def, surround sound, and color; they just add to the film. I understand what you mean though.

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

Glad you enjoy the pictures Can you view them on this page?

No, I had to click on the link. But the pics found therein are great.

Originally Posted by vegeta88

+1 for the cast Some of them are just top notch.

Yeah. They lined up some impressive talent.

Originally Posted by vegeta88

As for 3D, to me a movie doesn't need to be 3D just as we don't "need" hi-def, surround sound, and color; they just add to the film. I understand what you mean though.

Careful. I once expressed an opinion similar to yours and people thought I was crazy. As far as I'm concerned, color, sound, and moving pictures are all gimmicks. WHat matters is how well you use those gimmicks. Same with 3D.

However, unlike Step Up 3-D (which I feel wouldn't be half as fun in 2D), I don't see much use or need for 3D in this kind of a movie. And I really like 3D when it's well done so I'm not an opponent of 3D.

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by RocShemp

Careful. I once expressed an opinion similar to yours and people thought I was crazy. As far as I'm concerned, color, sound, and moving pictures are all gimmicks. WHat matters is how well you use those gimmicks. Same with 3D.

However, unlike Step Up 3-D (which I feel wouldn't be half as fun in 2D), I don't see much use or need for 3D in this kind of a movie. And I really like 3D when it's well done so I'm not an opponent of 3D.

I agree that each of those techniques/tools are only as good as they are executed. 3D is not the attraction, the movies themselves are, at least for me. But I think that sword fights and capes will look very cool in 3D

[Batman1980]

Ew this guy has only done one movie I've liked, I hope he can handle this, I've always loved this particular legend.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Ew this guy has only done one movie I've liked, I hope he can handle this, I've always loved this particular legend.

Yeah my hopes aren't to high with him directing the movie and this is also one of my favorite legends that I hope they don't screw up.

[TheWildWhelk]

Anderson has always struggled to become a mainstream A List Director, and even when he was working on top franchise material like AvP, it's been given a lower budget and minimal support. He needs to prove that he can direct an epic action adventure that will move him into the higher ranks of blockbusterdom.

Some may consider it arguing the difference between Shit and Crap, but if Sequel-Meister Brett Ratner can work with the likes of Anthony Hopkins on Red Dragon, then Anderson should prove he can combine action with character drama.

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

I agree that each of those techniques/tools are only as good as they are executed. 3D is not the attraction, the movies themselves are, at least for me.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by vegeta88

But I think that sword fights and capes will look very cool in 3D

I'm hoping for some nice aerial views and tasteful flybys of the locations and lanscapes.

[vegeta88]

Milla



Also fixed the others.

A dress doesn't suit Milla as well as other costumes she has had, like the white thing in The Fifth Element
Though you don't here me not complaining.