Biggest Screen Size anyone here has done with Panny AE3000

[jdc115]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

ANYWAYS..... Making the room a "Cave" is very important.... but you'll still need a pretty powerful projector to blow up a screen that size with a nice bright image.....

Sorry to jump with my own question on this thread, I am considering getting a projector, was considering the JVC RS10 (or Benq W5000 if I want to save money) but I wonder if it is worth it if I can not make my room a cave.

You can see a couple of pics here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdc115/2703022362/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdc115/2703020066/

I do not mind painting the wall behind the screen a dark brown but not black. But my floor is a shiny tile and the ceilings are white. Since this is also my main living room, I do not want to make all the walls and ceiling black and the floor will stay the way it is.

Will it be very distracting to use a projector due to light reflections?

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by jdc115

Will it be very distracting to use a projector due to light reflections?

no..... Not distracting to the point where you won't enjoy it.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by J.Seb

lol

I wonder if anyone actually went for that ratio just to watch HTWWW although, even then, you are not getting the right experience - wouldn't you need 3 projectors and 3 screens?

Well with the way they stitched the three panels together all you need is a 2.89 curved screen.

With a 2.89 screen you can then watch Ben Hur, Greatest Story Ever Told and a half dozen more at Ultra Panavision 2.75, then things like The Robe, How To Marry a Millionare and Sleeping Beauty at original CinemaScope 2.55

It all depends if you want to watch those movies fllling a screen or letterboxed on a 2.40 wide screen

If your room can acommodate the extra wide screen , and you have a Pansonic 4000 with 6 memory zoom settings why not

Position the Projector so the Zoom at Maximum: 2.89 or 2.75 (HTWWW at 2.89 is showing about 5% extra Camera Aperture width so you could show it at 2.75, or you could have the max at 2.89 for HTWWW and manualy zoom for the half a dozen UltraPanavision 2.75 movies)
Memory 6: 2.55
Memory 5: 2.40
Memory 4: 2.35
Memory 3: 2.20
Memory 2: 1.85
Memory 1: 1.78 (covers 1.75, 1.66, 1.43, 1.37, 1.33 and Movietone aperture)

But Napoleon would present a 4 to 1 problem

[Trogdor2010]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Well with the way they stitched the three panels together all you need is a 2.89 curved screen.

With a 2.89 screen you can then watch Ben Hur, Greatest Story Ever Told and a half dozen more at Ultra Panavision 2.75, then things like The Robe, How To Marry a Millionare and Sleeping Beauty at original CinemaScope 2.55

It all depends if you want to watch those movies fllling a screen or letterboxed on a 2.40 wide screen

If your room can acommodate the extra wide screen , and you have a Pansonic 4000 with 6 memory zoom settings why not

Position the Projector so the Zoom at Maximum: 2.89 or 2.75 (HTWWW at 2.89 is showing about 5% extra Camera Aperture width so you could show it at 2.75, or you could have the max at 2.89 for HTWWW and manualy zoom for the half a dozen UltraPanavision 2.75 movies)
Memory 6: 2.55
Memory 5: 2.40
Memory 4: 2.35
Memory 3: 2.20
Memory 2: 1.85
Memory 1: 1.78 (covers 1.75, 1.66, 1.43, 1.37, 1.33 and Movietone aperture)

But Napoleon would present a 4 to 1 problem

I really want to see Napoleon, but I don't recall them releasing the DVD or VHS version of it. Anyways, I don't own a Panasonic AE3000, but I'm to be making an anamorphic lens to watch 2.35:1 Cinemascope movies and setting it up in my room (My home theater) with a 12 foot wide screen with my Infocus X10 (I'm using a 7 foot wide 16:9 screen), and I can also gain the benefits of resolution and brightness with the lens for cinemascope movies.

[jdc115]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

no..... Not distracting to the point where you won't enjoy it.

thanks, I still think I will enjoy it better then using a TV and the projector is more economical as soon as I try to go above 50" from what I have looked it.

I most likely put down a throw rug on the floor anyway to help with the poor room acoustics. But the ceiling will always be white

[J.Seb]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

If your room can acommodate the extra wide screen , and you have a Pansonic 4000 with 6 memory zoom settings why not

Position the Projector so the Zoom at Maximum: 2.89 or 2.75 (HTWWW at 2.89 is showing about 5% extra Camera Aperture width so you could show it at 2.75, or you could have the max at 2.89 for HTWWW and manualy zoom for the half a dozen UltraPanavision 2.75 movies)
Memory 6: 2.55
Memory 5: 2.40
Memory 4: 2.35
Memory 3: 2.20
Memory 2: 1.85
Memory 1: 1.78 (covers 1.75, 1.66, 1.43, 1.37, 1.33 and Movietone aperture)

But Napoleon would present a 4 to 1 problem

And I thought going 2.40 was quite extreme…

Unfortunately, I don't think the 2.89 screen would be very space-efficient in my case. Thanks for the thorough reply anyway, it's good to learn those things.

Now I am curious, have you ever seen anyone with a display like that?

[Swede]

Originally Posted by jdc115

Sorry to jump with my own question on this thread, I am considering getting a projector, was considering the JVC RS10 (or Benq W5000 if I want to save money) but I wonder if it is worth it if I can not make my room a cave.

You can see a couple of pics here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdc115/2703022362/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdc115/2703020066/

I do not mind painting the wall behind the screen a dark brown but not black. But my floor is a shiny tile and the ceilings are white. Since this is also my main living room, I do not want to make all the walls and ceiling black and the floor will stay the way it is.

Will it be very distracting to use a projector due to light reflections?

As much as I enjoyed reading Beta Man's post and envy his obsession towards the ultimate movie experience, this is exactly what I feared would happen

For a lot of people who has never seen a projector in real life they may very well take things like that literally, and assume projectors is simply not for them!

This is why I don't like when people make it sound like their wet dreams are somehow a requirement to even consider a projector! Saying stuff like "Making the room a "Cave" is very important" is a huge exaggeration. Sure, it's DESIRABLE, but it's for the extremists of home theaters, those lucky enough to have dedicated rooms for their home theaters!

For anyone considering buying a projector for the first time, please read this:
I've been using a projector for all my TV and movie watching for the last 10 years, and a lot of games on the PS3 and even quite a few PC games!
I live in an apartment, with the projector set up in the living room.
All the walls and ceiling are 100% WHITE
I have a huge glass door towards the balcony that takes up the entire left side wall, and the blinds are also WHITE
I have an old 720p LOW LUMEN projector, with a bulb that has gone past 2000 hours
For over a year I was projecting my 100" picture right onto the back wall!

Going by the dark cave "requirement" I should basically just go hang myself right now, or forget all about projectors and buy myself a 50" plasma or something... Yet, somehow I absolutely LOVE the picture I get from my pj, and would never ever go back to a regular TV

Yes, I would love to get a better projector, get a nice masking system and paint walls and celing in a dark gray shade, use pitch black blinds and all that, but most of that is unforunately going to have to wait until we get a nice house with a dedicated room.

My point though is, you don't NEED TO! You can get a great movie experience with a normal room and normal white walls.

[jdc115]

Originally Posted by Swede

As much as I enjoyed reading Beta Man's post and envy his obsession towards the ultimate movie experience, this is exactly what I feared would happen


My point though is, you don't NEED TO! You can get a great movie experience with a normal room and normal white walls.

Hi Swede...

Thank you for the input, this is pretty much what I had assumed but was looking for some input from others. No, it won't be the ideal HT but still will be great and a better experience then if I use a TV and I can manage to get a much bigger picture for less money.

Now just have to decide on which projector...

[drago3451]

I have not painted my room dark either. My room is a multi-purpose family room so I wanted to keep it neutral. The experience is still much, much, better on my 120” than when I just used my 60” for movies. I will never be able go back to a “standard” screen size again.

[Propellarhead9]

Sorry i haven't responded sooner, had a busy weekend. To Answer BetaMan's question of when I'm closing on the house - I should be by the end of October optomistically. It shouldn't take that long to get everything squared away because we are paying cash outright for which ever one we get.

And for the aspect ratio question I'm probably just going to do a standard 16:9 screen. I would do a wider screen but the aspects on everything I watch varies way too much so the 16:9 is better. But on a related note to that are there any projectors that can project natively in like 2.4:1 or is it pretty much you have to get an extra lens.

[J.Seb]

Well, the Panasonic itself can handle those ratios by "emulating" the lenses. What you actually do is just zoom the image. I really liked that idea because you can save the different zooms and shifts and it's the cheapest way to get 2.40:1.

I am planning to get a projector myself and I am really interested in getting a 2.40:1 screen and eventually just give those movies that extra screen they've been begging for. The thing is that the anamorphic lenses are way too expensive to begin with (when you also need to get the projector, screen…) but then yesterday I found these:

http://www.prismasonic.com/english/index.shtml

Now those, are more reasonable prices aren't they?

Has anyone any feedback on them?

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by J.Seb

Well, the Panasonic itself can handle those ratios by "emulating" the lenses. What you actually do is just zoom the image. I really liked that idea because you can save the different zooms and shifts and it's the cheapest way to get 2.40:1.

I am planning to get a projector myself and I am really interested in getting a 2.40:1 screen and eventually just give those movies that extra screen they've been begging for. The thing is that the anamorphic lenses are way too expensive to begin with (when you also need to get the projector, screen…) but then yesterday I found these:

http://www.prismasonic.com/english/index.shtml

Now those, are more reasonable prices aren't they?

Has anyone any feedback on them?

Prismasonic is a reputable brand so as Panamorph. Panamorph is a top end prism/cylindrical hybrid lens.

There are other options as well if you are comfortable of compromising the PQ a bit.
http://www.hometheaterbrothers.com/

http://cavx.blogspot.com/2006/09/mar...namorphic.html

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by Swede

...
My point though is, you don't NEED TO! You can get a great movie experience with a normal room and normal white walls.

Of course you can... However, making walls and ceiling darker will improve it significantly.

[Swede]

Originally Posted by syncguy

Of course you can... However, making walls and ceiling darker will improve it significantly.

Well it may be obvious to you and me, but it may not be for someone who doesn't already own a projector, and maybe never even seen one properly

I think a lot of people are turned off from projectors simply because there are so many misconceptions out there. If people realized you DON'T need a "bat cave" with no windows, then a lot more people would probably consider buying one.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by Swede

Well it may be obvious to you and me, but it may not be for someone who doesn't already own a projector, and maybe never even seen one properly

I think a lot of people are turned off from projectors simply because there are so many misconceptions out there. If people realized you DON'T need a "bat cave" with no windows, then a lot more people would probably consider buying one.

Yes, this is true. Also, a projector needs more commitment than a TV set. TV can be watched while windows are open etc. A projector needs more work but the outcome is truly rewarding... Hope people could understand this...

[reanimator]

I’m running the Panny 3000 on a 135” 16x9 screen (1.3 gain) – which means anything I watch is about 10 feet wide. Projector-to-screen throw distance is just over 13.5 feet. I view from around 12 feet.

The room is not 100% light controlled, has a white ceiling, white walls, and lots of posters framed in plexiglass that reflects light all over the place. Far from a dedicated room, and far from ideal. And the verdict?

Picture quality is fantastic. I agree with the comment about going as large with the screen as the room will allow. In my case, I might have been able to go slightly larger, but not by much. I got the Panny on Black Friday last year – and I still haven’t been able to wipe the smile off my face!

I mostly watch movies and football. But recently I threw “Left 4 Dead” up there for some gaming. Holy poop. That was amazing.

[jdc115]

Originally Posted by reanimator

I’m running the Panny 3000 on a 135” 16x9 screen (1.3 gain) – which means anything I watch is about 10 feet wide. Projector-to-screen throw distance is just over 13.5 feet. I view from around 12 feet.

The room is not 100% light controlled, has a white ceiling, white walls, and lots of posters framed in plexiglass that reflects light all over the place. Far from a dedicated room, and far from ideal. And the verdict?

Picture quality is fantastic.

I shall soon find out, the projector will come and be installed on Tuesday. In the mean time, i am painting the room as the previous paint job was just awful. I can not say mine is great (next time i will pay to have done) but its 10 times better then what it looked like before.

Everything will be white except the wal behind the screen and I still am not sure what color to paint it, any suggestions? I go to the paint store in 1 hour...

[invictuslemming]

I'm using a AE3000 projector on a 106" 16:9 grey screen from Grandview screens.

I went with the grey (0.8 gain) because of the lighting in my living room (We have light colored maple wood floors and walls) and some uncontrollable ambient light coming from the side hallway.

The panny is much more powerful than the old projector it replaced, most of my family members actually watch TV and movies with the lights on in the room and honestly the image looks just fine (I still prefer a dark room for movies though). Granted it looks much better with the lights off but its not near as much of an issue as it was with previous generation projectors.

[J.Seb]

Originally Posted by jdc115

I shall soon find out, the projector will come and be installed on Tuesday.

Congratulations! It would be cool if you could share some pictures once it's all set up.

[jdc115]

Originally Posted by J.Seb

Congratulations! It would be cool if you could share some pictures once it's all set up.

I will, the projector is mounted but I am just displaying on a wall at the moment. Plus my equipment is on the floor until I get a new audio rack. Hopefully everything will be the way I want it in about 1 week and then i will load photos into my profile. So far I love it, I painted the wall gray and it display quite well.