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Old 10-26-2009, 07:08 PM   #21
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I've got a 1mb dsl connection at home, how friendly will the Netflix streaming be on that? Would be my main concern.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:32 PM   #22
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I've got a 1mb dsl connection at home, how friendly will the Netflix streaming be on that? Would be my main concern.
You'll get SD content easy. HD will be a problem though. I still get lag spikes at 10mbps.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:39 PM   #23
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Here's a good article on the Netflix encoding process:

http://blog.netflix.com/2008/11/enco...streaming.html

Hmm, I was wrong in my earlier post, they do use 720p (maybe Blu-Ray quality in a couple years). Gotta check things out since I have a 15 Mbps connection speed...PQ shouldn't be that bad...
Currently only two devices support the Netflix HD streaming.... the Roku and the 360. I haven't seen yet whether the PS3 will as well. If it does... maybe I'll get my PS3 fixed.

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You'll get SD content easy. HD will be a problem though. I still get lag spikes at 10mbps.

It also depends a lot upon your latency... and the device. I have a 6Mb DSL, and I get great, smooth 4 bar streaming of HD on my 360... but I get lag on my PC with SD content.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:40 PM   #24
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Well, it looks like Microshaft is trying to throw a wrench in the gears of another deal. I suppose I can understand why from a financial standpoint, especially if they have an iron-clad exclusivity clause. They might stand to lose income from X-Box Live fees and maybe a few sales of X-Box units to Sony's PS3 (add it to the list of reasons to buy one). Plus, they just hate to see their competitor benefit from anything. But even with that said, it still just comes across like the typical MS attempt to keep a monopoly on everything it puts it's hands on.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:43 PM   #25
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i just started using this feature on the 360 this week. Its really good for older TV seasons that your really only going to watch once. The HD quality cant doesn't even hold up to a upconverted DVD, but its smooth and instant, so its watchable for me. The g/f loves it, cause even though she loves some blu-ray, she'll watch anything. Its good that its coming to the PS3 though, cause 1 i didnt know you NEEDED a gold account for it to even work on the 360 and i dont plan on renewing my gold when it expires in December. So ill be switching to the PS3 even though im not crazy about putting the extra wear on my blu-ray drive. This needs to be dashboard enabled quick like
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:27 PM   #26
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Well, it looks like Microshaft is trying to throw a wrench in the gears of another deal. I suppose I can understand why from a financial standpoint, especially if they have an iron-clad exclusivity clause. They might stand to lose income from X-Box Live fees and maybe a few sales of X-Box units to Sony's PS3 (add it to the list of reasons to buy one). Plus, they just hate to see their competitor benefit from anything. But even with that said, it still just comes across like the typical MS attempt to keep a monopoly on everything it puts it's hands on.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:52 PM   #27
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Currently only two devices support the Netflix HD streaming.... the Roku and the 360. I haven't seen yet whether the PS3 will as well. If it does... maybe I'll get my PS3 fixed.
Thats true, i didn't see any mention of HD in the press release.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:44 PM   #28
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I think he's referring to MS's exclusivity deal to have Netflix run on the 360. I'd just be happy that they figured out a workaround to run it from disc.... and then hope that it isn't challenged as breaking exclusivity on a console.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:08 PM   #29
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Currently only two devices support the Netflix HD streaming.... the Roku and the 360. I haven't seen yet whether the PS3 will as well. If it does... maybe I'll get my PS3 fixed.




It also depends a lot upon your latency... and the device. I have a 6Mb DSL, and I get great, smooth 4 bar streaming of HD on my 360... but I get lag on my PC with SD content.
It does support HD streaming. Very nicely too, specially encoded using h.264 4.1 and DD 5.1.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:13 PM   #30
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It does support HD streaming. Very nicely too, specially encoded using h.264 4.1 and DD 5.1.
Well that's pretty sweet! Now we are up to two streaming services able to support 5.1 audio..... and one supporting 1080P. Streaming is making steady progress.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:28 PM   #31
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Currently only two devices support the Netflix HD streaming.... the Roku and the 360. I haven't seen yet whether the PS3 will as well. If it does... maybe I'll get my PS3 fixed...
I don't think that is true. Any standalone NF streaming device can stream their HD content, such as the various LG players and the Samsung players and the new Insignia players.

The only devices that don't stream HD from Netflix are PCs.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:29 PM   #32
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Netflix was kind enough to answer a heap of nitpicky questions following the announcement that its steaming service would soon be available for PlayStation 3. Certainly, question marks hovered over the application "disc" and whether or not it would have to always be in the PS3 to use the Netflix streaming service. It turns out that Netflix won't have an integrated XMB solution just yet -- but it's coming.

Check out our interview with a Netflix representative for the full details:


Was the PS3 application developed internally by Netflix?

Yes, with the help of the Sony team.



Can the Netflix application be installed to the PS3 hard dive from the disc? Or must the disc be inserted every time a user wants to access Netflix?

Yes, the Netflix disc has to be inserted every time to access the Netflix service.



Why a disc-based application and not streaming access through the PS3 browser?


Netflix members and PS3 owners have really wanted a way to instantly watch movies and TV episodes streamed from Netflix via the PS3 system. The instant streaming disc represented the fastest and easiest way to let them do this.



Why not distribute the application via PSN download or firmware update, and then embed it into the XMB?


Again, the instant streaming disc represented the fastest and easiest way to let PS3 enthusiasts get Netflix on the PS3. Late next year we expect to have an embedded solution available for PS3s via a system software update slated for release through the PlayStation Network.



Is releasing the PS3 application on a disc required by an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

The Netflix agreement with Sony for PS3 is consistent with the terms of our partnership with Microsoft for Xbox 360. Our goal is to give members the opportunity to instantly watch movies streamed from Netflix via the widest variety of Netflix ready devices. All of our partners are aware of our goal.



Is any new content being added to the Netlfix streaming catalog alongside this announcement?


We are constantly adding content to better serve our members, however we did not announce new content alongside the PS3 announcement.



Can users search the entire Netflix streaming library from the PS3? (On Xbox 360, browsing is currently limited to 100-movie categories.)

Similar to Xbox, subscribers can search lists of movies in categories such as New Releases, Drama, Action, Comedy, etc., and will have access to the entire library available to watch instantly.



Will special features typically found on DVD and Blu-ray discs (e.g., additional audio tracks, director commentary, etc.) be available through the PS3 application?

No.



Is there any difference between the content catalog available on PS3 versus Xbox 360?

No.



Does the PS3 application include any features that aren't in the Xbox 360 application?

No.



Are there more features being planned for a future update?

Again, late next year we expect to have an embedded solution available for PS3s via a system software update slated for release through the PlayStation Network.



Finally, what's the update on a Netflix application for Wii?

Certainly, the Wii represents a great opportunity given the size of its installed base, but we have nothing specific to say about it at this point. The Xbox partnership has been terrific for Netflix members, and we're equally excited to announce the partnership with PS3.
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/26/ne...l-2010-update/
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:57 PM   #33
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already ordered my disc from netflix. as far as the picture quality, i dont mind watching some documenteries, standup, cheezy horror movies, and my wife could care less for PQ so its a good way for her to watch her chickflix
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:03 AM   #34
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I just ordered my disc too.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:21 AM   #35
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I think he's referring to MS's exclusivity deal to have Netflix run on the 360. I'd just be happy that they figured out a workaround to run it from disc.... and then hope that it isn't challenged as breaking exclusivity on a console.

Correct. And I was referring to the updated info in the "Top Blu-Ray News" section of this site.

Although from bt12483's posted qoute from the joistiq.com site, NetFlix sounds pretty confident about their plans. I hope they can quash Microsoft's attempt to spoil it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:02 AM   #36
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Is there any difference between the content catalog available on PS3 versus Xbox 360?

No
That would seem to indicate that Netflix on PS3 is stereo as well.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:46 AM   #37
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Netflix coming to PlayStation 3 next month is good news for PlayStation 3 owners (and Xbox 360 users whose primary reason for a Gold membership has been easy Netflix streaming access). But several questions about Netflix coming to Sony's platform weren't answered in the announcement release. Is there HD streaming? Why do I need a disc to access it?

I spoke with Netflix's VP of corporate communications Steve Swasey on the phone this morning to clarify these points and others. Again, good news: you should be happy with these answers, too.

Yes, Netflix on PlayStation 3 supports HD streaming. The entire Netflix streaming catalogue -- HD or not -- that's currently available on the PC, via Netflix-supporting TVs and, yes, through Xbox 360 will be available for PlayStation 3 users on day one. Swasey admitted Netflix's streaming catalogue isn't nearly as vast as its disc catalog, but said it's something they're actively expanding every day.

At the outset, in order to access Netflix on your PlayStation 3, you'll need to pop in a disc. The disc is free and yours to keep. All you need to do is ask for one and keep it nearby when you want to access Netflix streaming. That's not permanent. Swasey confirmed Netflix will have an "embedded solution" (i.e. a proper application, ala Xbox 360) "at some point," but couldn't say when.

Swasey wouldn't comment on speculation that it's a disc-based solution at the moment to get around whatever exclusivity contract the company currently has with Microsoft. Regardless, PlayStation 3 users will eventually have a more elegant way to access Netflix that doesn't require a disc, but according to Swasey, this was the "fastest and easiest way to get PlayStation 3 members now."

Netflix has not announced a specific date for when it will start shipping the Netflix-enabling Blu-ray discs for PlayStation 3 owners, but it's happening sometime in November. If you want to be at the top of the list, I recommend linking your account right now.
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/70...-Required.html
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Late next year we expect to have an embedded solution available for PS3s via a system software update slated for release through the PlayStation Network.
Pretty much confirm what I suspected

Netflix and MS have a 2 year agreement, but Netflix and Sony (and their lawyers) found a way around it


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That would seem to indicate that Netflix on PS3 is stereo as well.
Not necessarily. He could have meant the PS3 won't get more content (aka more films in their catalogue) than the 360. It's the same catalogue everywhere.
Now will the movies be in the exact same quality video/ sound?
We'll have to wait & see.
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Not necessarily. He could have meant the PS3 won't get more content (aka more films in their catalogue) than the 360. It's the same catalogue everywhere.
Now will the movies be in the exact same quality video/ sound?
We'll have to wait & see.
I don't think so, as the catalog was already addressed as a separate issue higher up in the response. It would be kind of unusual to retool the entire instant catalog with 5.1 audio just for one platform. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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since its a disc you need the access netflix. will the PS3 up-convert the video? anybody know (xbox users) if when you pick a movie, is there a SD or HD option?

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