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The Don · 08-01-2007, 05:53 PM

I prefer it how the director wanted it....

it's his movie and I hate when people sacrifice their creative views to please the masses....

supersix4 · 08-01-2007, 06:05 PM

at least here it seems the masses like it the way it is ... and are able to understand logic that it was never ment to be a POTC

Leopold BUTTERS · 08-01-2007, 07:08 PM

I like movies. I don't care what it looks like, as long as it is good. Maybe we should not buy any Black and White movies ever, because my HDTV has a bijillion colours why only use 2!

Amon37 · 08-01-2007, 07:18 PM

With grain.

It was fine in the PSN HD trailer with grain, fine in the theater with grain, and fine on BD with grain.

donricouga · 08-01-2007, 07:32 PM

I want it exactly how it was in the movie theaters. Grain and all !
You shouldn't mess with the directors intended look.

Blu Tiger · 08-01-2007, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andytoh

Hey, 15 to 7 so far. Not as bad as I thought.

You're also in a forum filled with purist videophiles

I wouldn't change from what it was meant to be, I just kinda wish it was made without. Usually grain doesn't bother me, but it was really bad in one of the beginning scenes on 300. I lost track of what was going on in the movie because a character's face had so much grain. I felt like I was tripping or something.

Petra_Kalbrain · 08-01-2007, 07:39 PM

I would like to see LESS of the stylization in Hi-Def! I'm totally for the respect paid to the graphic novel. Had I directed it, I would have found a middle ground between what IS and the clarity that could have been. But, I still love the film!!!

dialog_gvf · 08-01-2007, 07:39 PM

I haven't seen 300 myself. But, the big question is:

Does the Warner VC-1 encoding for HD DVD that we're forced to put up with handle the grain well? Or is it emphasizing it in some way?

I'm not sure anyone but a professional compressionist can answer that question. And I doubt whether any are brave enough to do so in public.

Anyone who reads this forum knows that frequently HD DVD encodes are bit-starved. The risk we take with Warner titles is this very thing. We know they'll play, but we're never sure if we're stuck with sub-standard encoding due to Warner merely porting HD DVD over to us.

Gary

jcdDigix · 08-01-2007, 07:41 PM

Grainy. It's bothering! What's the use of HD then?

dialog_gvf · 08-01-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcdDigix

Grainy. It's bothering! What's the use of HD then?

The detail is still there. And HD is about enhanced detail not smoothness.

People are expecting video from film every time now. That's an unfortunate side effect of HD broadcasts.

Gary

Tenudin · 08-01-2007, 07:47 PM

I think you should just accept the film for what it is. There is grain. It was meant to be that way. Deal with it. There isn't going to be a special edition non-grain release. The idea was to take the Graphic novel and put it on film. That's what they did.

Branden · 08-01-2007, 07:57 PM

i prefer what the director intends, but i also prefer that the director would prefer less grain.

Blu Tiger · 08-01-2007, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden

i prefer what the director intends, but i also prefer that the director would prefer less grain.

Exactly the same way I think.

jcdDigix · 08-01-2007, 08:01 PM

So it doesn't matter the SD/HD versions look the same to my eyes? C'mon

Mr. Joshua · 08-01-2007, 08:05 PM

What is the big deal with grain? It makes the movie! It gives the feel of being there in that time and place. Another example is King Arthur Director's Cut. A lot of people complained it looks green. The director shot it that way. To give an ancient times feel to the movie. I think it's cool they can do that. It may even help the CGI looking too much CGI. Some of the Star Wars CGI is too fake....

supersix4 · 08-01-2007, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcdDigix

So it doesn't matter the SD/HD versions look the same to my eyes? C'mon

youve got to be kidding

Mr. Joshua · 08-01-2007, 08:06 PM

The film is clear on blu-ray unless someone you know dranks some muddy water and is standing in front of the tv. Anyone OCD in here?

PaulDubya · 08-01-2007, 08:08 PM

I love it just the way it is. Its a creative form of film making.

supersix4 · 08-01-2007, 08:10 PM

to many people arent smart enough to understand that POTC and 007 fall under different categories and werent ever ment to be compared ... CAUSE THEY ARENT THE SAME TYPE OF MOVIE!

Iceman_II · 08-01-2007, 08:35 PM

Why don't we just start another poll...

Would you prefer if they colorized the begining of the "Wizard of Oz?"

For crying out loud people, "300" looks the way the director wanted, if you don't like it, stop *****ing and don't buy it.

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08-01-2007, 05:53 PM	#21
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	I prefer it how the director wanted it.... it's his movie and I hate when people sacrifice their creative views to please the masses....

08-01-2007, 06:05 PM	#22
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	at least here it seems the masses like it the way it is ... and are able to understand logic that it was never ment to be a POTC

08-01-2007, 07:08 PM	#23
Leopold BUTTERS Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:AB,Canada Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	I like movies. I don't care what it looks like, as long as it is good. Maybe we should not buy any Black and White movies ever, because my HDTV has a bijillion colours why only use 2!

08-01-2007, 07:18 PM	#24
Amon37 Power Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:USA,Arizona PSNetwork: Amon37	With grain. It was fine in the PSN HD trailer with grain, fine in the theater with grain, and fine on BD with grain.

08-01-2007, 07:32 PM	#25
donricouga Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Atlanta, GA Blu-ray collection:138 Blu-ray reviews: 9 Trading Score:1	I want it exactly how it was in the movie theaters. Grain and all ! You shouldn't mess with the directors intended look.

08-01-2007, 07:39 PM	#27
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	I would like to see LESS of the stylization in Hi-Def! I'm totally for the respect paid to the graphic novel. Had I directed it, I would have found a middle ground between what IS and the clarity that could have been. But, I still love the film!!!

08-01-2007, 07:39 PM	#28
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	I haven't seen 300 myself. But, the big question is: Does the Warner VC-1 encoding for HD DVD that we're forced to put up with handle the grain well? Or is it emphasizing it in some way? I'm not sure anyone but a professional compressionist can answer that question. And I doubt whether any are brave enough to do so in public. Anyone who reads this forum knows that frequently HD DVD encodes are bit-starved. The risk we take with Warner titles is this very thing. We know they'll play, but we're never sure if we're stuck with sub-standard encoding due to Warner merely porting HD DVD over to us. Gary

08-01-2007, 07:41 PM	#29
jcdDigix Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:FL 4K collection:202 Blu-ray collection:1075 DVD collection:1341 Digital collection:3 iTunes collection:134 Blu-ray reviews:7	Grainy. It's bothering! What's the use of HD then?

08-01-2007, 07:47 PM	#31
Tenudin Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:145	I think you should just accept the film for what it is. There is grain. It was meant to be that way. Deal with it. There isn't going to be a special edition non-grain release. The idea was to take the Graphic novel and put it on film. That's what they did.

08-01-2007, 07:57 PM	#32
Branden Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, Alberta 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:558	i prefer what the director intends, but i also prefer that the director would prefer less grain.

08-01-2007, 08:01 PM	#34
jcdDigix Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:FL 4K collection:202 Blu-ray collection:1075 DVD collection:1341 Digital collection:3 iTunes collection:134 Blu-ray reviews:7	So it doesn't matter the SD/HD versions look the same to my eyes? C'mon

08-01-2007, 08:05 PM	#35
Mr. Joshua Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:153	What is the big deal with grain? It makes the movie! It gives the feel of being there in that time and place. Another example is King Arthur Director's Cut. A lot of people complained it looks green. The director shot it that way. To give an ancient times feel to the movie. I think it's cool they can do that. It may even help the CGI looking too much CGI. Some of the Star Wars CGI is too fake....

08-01-2007, 08:06 PM	#37
Mr. Joshua Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:153	The film is clear on blu-ray unless someone you know dranks some muddy water and is standing in front of the tv. Anyone OCD in here?

08-01-2007, 08:08 PM	#38
PaulDubya Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Miami Florida "305" Blu-ray collection:68 Blu-ray reviews:16	I love it just the way it is. Its a creative form of film making.

08-01-2007, 08:10 PM	#39
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	to many people arent smart enough to understand that POTC and 007 fall under different categories and werent ever ment to be compared ... CAUSE THEY ARENT THE SAME TYPE OF MOVIE!

08-01-2007, 08:35 PM	#40
Iceman_II Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Ft. Worth Home Theater Gallery:2 Blu-ray collection:308 Blu-ray reviews: 4	Why don't we just start another poll... Would you prefer if they colorized the begining of the "Wizard of Oz?" For crying out loud people, "300" looks the way the director wanted, if you don't like it, stop *****ing and don't buy it.

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