ED A2-300 VS Premier Acoustic PA-120

[callas01]

Here is a review done of several subwoofers, the first number is the subs combined score for both HT and music, the (ww-xx) are the individual scores, with HT being the first number and music the second number.

Note that there is a trend here... the companies like SVS, eD and Hsu have a lot of listings and only the H100(aka PL100 your predicessor) is listed at the bottom. Now I know that not all subs can be on here, it would just be too difficult, BUT the trend is eD, SVS and Hsu over and over. There has to be a reason for that.... And there are few subs on this list that are sold at Dealers, but the Majority were ID companies, because they can get you more Bang for the Buck. ALSO a quick look at the AVSforum.com site their was a thread about the PL200(H200) and one guy noted that the sub uses the EXACT same amp as the Hsu STF-2... there is a little debate about it, but wow the resemblance is uncanny.... that said, it appears that the Bic is a decent unit. I think you have some good choices in front of you. Good luck on whatever you decide.

Elemental Designs A7-900 ($2200 ID/SI): 116 points (63-53)
Epik Conquest ($1599 ID): 112 points (60-52)
SVS PB13-Ultra ($1499 ID): 109 points (57-52)
Epik Castle ($999 ID): 109 points (59-50)
AV123 MFW-15 Duals: 109 points (56-53) (note, duals were tested as duals are offered as a package)
Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver + Behringer EP-2500 Amp + Behringer DEQ2496 ($1630 ID): 105 points (57-48)
JL Audio Fathom 113 ($3500 BM): 103 points (53-50)
AV123 MFW-15 ($599 ID): 103 points (53-50)
Def Tech Trinity ($3000 BM): 102 points (54-48)
Velodyne DD-18 ($5000 BM): 100 points (50-50)
ACI Maestro ($2400 ID): 97 points (47-50)
eD A5-350 ($715 ID/SI): 96 points (50-46)
JL Audio Fathom 112 ($2600 BM): 95 points (45-50)
Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo ($999 ID): 94 points (47-47)
Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo ($899 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III + Turbo ($799 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Epik Valor ($549 ID): 91 points (44-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III w/o Turbo ($699 ID): 91 points (45-46)
SVS PB12-Ultra: 90 points (47-43)
Axiom EP-500 ($1230 ID/SI): 90 points (43-47)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III + Turbo ($599 ID): 88 points (42-46)
SVS PB12-Plus/2 ($1299 ID): 87 points (47-40)
SVS PB12-NSD ($599 ID): 86 points (43-43)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III w/o Turbo ($499 ID): 86 points (40-46)
Rocket UFW-12 ($999 ID): 85 points (provisional) (35-50)
Elemental Designs A2-300 ($350 ID/SI): 83 points (44-39)
SVS PB10-NSD ($429 ID): 83 points (43-40)
Dana Audio 600 ($869 ID): 83 points (36-47)
Rocket X-Sub ($199 ID): 78 points (34-44)
BIC H-100 ($229 eBay): 78 points (40-38)
Rocket Tyke: 60 points (If you care, PM me ... )

[kareface]

Originally Posted by Driver_King

Just for reference, the room size does not have any indication on what size subwoofer you should use

What? I'm confused, are you telling him that the size of the room doesn't change which subs would be more effective? From a physics standpoint that would be just false, the Inverse-square law would suggest for larger volume rooms he'll need either a higher SPL sub or many smaller SPL subs. You need more power as you scale the room up in size so the size of the room directly impacts which subs he should be considering.

[derzauberer]

The OP specifically stated:

1. I am not really interested in seeing if I can shake my house off its foundations either. So again I am not looking to turn my living room into a club.

It seems to me the prevailing logic being offered for #1 is this. The eD sub cost more and it's more reputable, therefore it must be better. The PA 120 costs less; it is fairly reputable; and it has adequate bass response to make this guy happy. But they still insist, don't get it, get the eD 300 instead. Yet some still argued contrary to the OP's request that the eD sub can go down to 16 HZ vs the 22 HZ for the PA 120. That doesn't prove that the eD sub is better for the OP. However, I would rather have a sub going down to 22 HZ that has a smoother bass response than one going down to 16 HZ that is peaky. I am not saying that the eD is peaky either, just stating my preference in a sub. I don't think one can buy a sub based on specifications alone. You have to audition it. Anyway, no one provided a good answer based on the OP's request.

2. Has anyone tried BOTH of them out and compared? On paper (aside from dimension) they seem very close. I am looking to save as much money as I can but I am also willing to spend if it is worth it for my use (hey money saved equals blu ray money!)


No one has answered #2. Actually, the only ones qualified to answer the OP's question with a real opinion that's not based on hearsay, folklore, and myth are the ones who own both the eD 300 and PA 120 subs.

The eD sub is no doubt a great sub and it has become a legend. But it seems to me what the OP wants to know besides how closely they compare, is this. Can he buy the PA 120 and still be happy with it's performance? This question remains unanswered unless someone who has compared both subs comes forward and offer him a valid opinion. Of course any answer is an opinion since the OP didn't really ask for proof. He got a lot of opinions but all of them were invalid.

[Kali157]

callas, thanks for posting that list. so the ed and the older, less powerful (vs Pl-200) Bic are kinda close in HT (95% of my use). Do you know if the PA-120 even showed up? Again thanks for the info.

Derz, thanks for illuminating my underlying point. In many threads, I found the responses to sub recommendations for ed over other subs are filled with statements that it is "smoother, more accurate, better, etc than the other sub 'X'". Yet few, if any, have the other sub in question. I think there is an inherit danger of providing a hierarchy in performance without actual experience with both sides. I think its okay to say that "my sub can go low or is very accurate or has smooth response." But, without owning or the ability to audition both choices equally, I think making statements like "this sub can go lowER or is MORE accurate or has a smoothER response" is very misleading to those asking for advice.

Besides the look and the large size, I think the other reason I am not going the ED route is that it is going to be a $350 blind buy for me that I cannot return if i didnt like it. The BIC or the PA can be returned even for credit towards a different sub on their site.

Any Bic Pl-200 owners out there who want to give some insight before I pull the trigger?

[ZIPPO]

Originally Posted by derzauberer

The OP specifically stated:

1. I am not really interested in seeing if I can shake my house off its foundations either. So again I am not looking to turn my living room into a club.

It seems to me the prevailing logic being offered for #1 is this. The eD sub cost more and it's more reputable, therefore it must be better. The PA 120 costs less; it is fairly reputable; and it has adequate bass response to make this guy happy. But they still insist, don't get it, get the eD 300 instead. Yet some still argued contrary to the OP's request that the eD sub can go down to 16 HZ vs the 22 HZ for the PA 120. That doesn't prove that the eD sub is better for the OP. However, I would rather have a sub going down to 22 HZ that has a smoother bass response than one going down to 16 HZ that is peaky. I am not saying that the eD is peaky either, just stating my preference in a sub. I don't think one can buy a sub based on specifications alone. You have to audition it. Anyway, no one provided a good answer based on the OP's request.

2. Has anyone tried BOTH of them out and compared? On paper (aside from dimension) they seem very close. I am looking to save as much money as I can but I am also willing to spend if it is worth it for my use (hey money saved equals blu ray money!)


No one has answered #2. Actually, the only ones qualified to answer the OP's question with a real opinion that's not based on hearsay, folklore, and myth are the ones who own both the eD 300 and PA 120 subs.

The eD sub is no doubt a great sub and it has become a legend. But it seems to me what the OP wants to know besides how closely they compare, is this. Can he buy the PA 120 and still be happy with it's performance? This question remains unanswered unless someone who has compared both subs comes forward and offer him a valid opinion. Of course any answer is an opinion since the OP didn't really ask for proof. He got a lot of opinions but all of them were invalid.

It's 18Hz vs. the 24Hz for the PA-120. The eD A2-300 won't strain as much when feed the rare signal below 20Hz( mostly found in movie audio ), while the PA-120 will. The eD A2-300 will pretty much take anything you throw at it.

I own & have compared both. In every category( except looks ) I prefer my eD A2-300( music & movies ). They're actually close in weight & dimensions.

YES! If I had this chose, I'd choose the eD A2-300. If he's worried about looks go with the PA-120, if not, then go with the eD A2-300. He won't be disappointed either way.

Originally Posted by Kali157

callas, thanks for posting that list. so the ed and the older, less powerful (vs Pl-200) Bic are kinda close in HT (95% of my use). Do you know if the PA-120 even showed up? Again thanks for the info.

Derz, thanks for illuminating my underlying point. In many threads, I found the responses to sub recommendations for ed over other subs are filled with statements that it is "smoother, more accurate, better, etc than the other sub 'X'". Yet few, if any, have the other sub in question. I think there is an inherit danger of providing a hierarchy in performance without actual experience with both sides. I think its okay to say that "my sub can go low or is very accurate or has smooth response." But, without owning or the ability to audition both choices equally, I think making statements like "this sub can go lowER or is MORE accurate or has a smoothER response" is very misleading to those asking for advice.

Besides the look and the large size, I think the other reason I am not going the ED route is that it is going to be a $350 blind buy for me that I cannot return if i didnt like it. The BIC or the PA can be returned even for credit towards a different sub on their site.

Any Bic Pl-200 owners out there who want to give some insight before I pull the trigger?

Premier Acoustic PA-120
Product Size: 18.7" x 14.3" x 17.1" ( H X W X D ), weighs slightly under 60 pounds

eD A2-300
Product Size: 18.0" x 18.0" x 21.5" ( H X W X D ), weighs slightly over 60 pounds

Only about 4" wider & deeper, not much bigger IMHO.


There is no way you wouldn't like either the eD A2-300 or the PA-120. Just keep in mind you don't have to run a eD A2-300 full throttle, you can set it up to suit your needs.

[tootall82103]

Originally Posted by callas01

Here is a review done of several subwoofers, the first number is the subs combined score for both HT and music, the (ww-xx) are the individual scores, with HT being the first number and music the second number.

Note that there is a trend here... the companies like SVS, eD and Hsu have a lot of listings and only the H100(aka PL100 your predicessor) is listed at the bottom. Now I know that not all subs can be on here, it would just be too difficult, BUT the trend is eD, SVS and Hsu over and over. There has to be a reason for that.... And there are few subs on this list that are sold at Dealers, but the Majority were ID companies, because they can get you more Bang for the Buck. ALSO a quick look at the AVSforum.com site their was a thread about the PL200(H200) and one guy noted that the sub uses the EXACT same amp as the Hsu STF-2... there is a little debate about it, but wow the resemblance is uncanny.... that said, it appears that the Bic is a decent unit. I think you have some good choices in front of you. Good luck on whatever you decide.

Elemental Designs A7-900 ($2200 ID/SI): 116 points (63-53)
Epik Conquest ($1599 ID): 112 points (60-52)
SVS PB13-Ultra ($1499 ID): 109 points (57-52)
Epik Castle ($999 ID): 109 points (59-50)
AV123 MFW-15 Duals: 109 points (56-53) (note, duals were tested as duals are offered as a package)
Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver + Behringer EP-2500 Amp + Behringer DEQ2496 ($1630 ID): 105 points (57-48)
JL Audio Fathom 113 ($3500 BM): 103 points (53-50)
AV123 MFW-15 ($599 ID): 103 points (53-50)
Def Tech Trinity ($3000 BM): 102 points (54-48)
Velodyne DD-18 ($5000 BM): 100 points (50-50)
ACI Maestro ($2400 ID): 97 points (47-50)
eD A5-350 ($715 ID/SI): 96 points (50-46)
JL Audio Fathom 112 ($2600 BM): 95 points (45-50)
Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo ($999 ID): 94 points (47-47)
Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo ($899 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III + Turbo ($799 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Epik Valor ($549 ID): 91 points (44-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III w/o Turbo ($699 ID): 91 points (45-46)
SVS PB12-Ultra: 90 points (47-43)
Axiom EP-500 ($1230 ID/SI): 90 points (43-47)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III + Turbo ($599 ID): 88 points (42-46)
SVS PB12-Plus/2 ($1299 ID): 87 points (47-40)
SVS PB12-NSD ($599 ID): 86 points (43-43)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III w/o Turbo ($499 ID): 86 points (40-46)
Rocket UFW-12 ($999 ID): 85 points (provisional) (35-50)
Elemental Designs A2-300 ($350 ID/SI): 83 points (44-39)
SVS PB10-NSD ($429 ID): 83 points (43-40)
Dana Audio 600 ($869 ID): 83 points (36-47)
Rocket X-Sub ($199 ID): 78 points (34-44)
BIC H-100 ($229 eBay): 78 points (40-38)
Rocket Tyke: 60 points (If you care, PM me ... )

I always liked looking at that since the PL-200 is a step up from the H-100, I assume it would be a few more points if not above the A2-300.
Seeing as they are so close already, and you don't really care for the looks of the ED, you can't go wrong with the PL-200 for its price to performance.

[Kali157]

Hey zippo, thanks for posting that. Got me a question. If you calibrated your setup to a balanced setting for movie watching (ie not set to see how loud the sub can get etc), can you comment on the difference btwn the PA and ED in the same setup? I know it maybe too much to ask, but your comments would be greatly appreciated. Why would you choose the ED? Fuller sound? Deeper? More responsive? I mean if you played the same scene on a blu back to back switching btwn the two, what difference do you hear? Again if I am asking too much just tell me to shut up. Thanks for your comments.

[derzauberer]

Originally Posted by ZIPPO

It's 18Hz vs. the 24Hz for the PA-120. The eD A2-300 won't strain as much when feed the rare signal below 20Hz( mostly found in movie audio ), while the PA-120 will. The eD A2-300 will pretty much take anything you throw at it.

I own & have compared both. In every category( except looks ) I prefer my eD A2-300( music & movies ). They're actually close in weight & dimensions.

YES! If I had this chose, I'd choose the eD A2-300. If he's worried about looks go with the PA-120, if not, then go with the eD A2-300. He won't be disappointed either way.

Premier Acoustic PA-120
Product Size: 18.7" x 14.3" x 17.1" ( H X W X D ), weighs slightly under 60 pounds

eD A2-300
Product Size: 18.0" x 18.0" x 21.5" ( H X W X D ), weighs slightly over 60 pounds

Only about 4" wider & deeper, not much bigger IMHO.


There is no way you wouldn't like either the eD A2-300 or the PA-120. Just keep in mind you don't have to run a eD A2-300 full throttle, you can set it up to suit your needs.

Thank you zippo for that very informative response and addressing those issues. I'm sure the OP is very grateful and hopefully he can now make an informed decision.

If I lived in an apartment, I would personally get the PA 120 because it costs less and I wouldn't be inclined to play it at louder levels anyway so as not to anger other tenants.

If I had a home and don't have to worry about disturbing the neighbors, then the eD 300 would be the better choice since I can go as loud as I dare to go.

[callas01]

I just want to say that the eD does not need to be played loud, and a sub is not supposed to overpower the speakers but add to the extension of the speakers to provide the lower deeper bass sounds, but it isn't supposed to overpower the rest of the speakers or you loose detail.

How do I blend my subwoofer and speakers?
Subwoofer blending is a term used to describe mating a subwoofer and speaker. The goal is to reproduce all frequencies evenly, therefore if there is a large gap in frequency output between the sub and speakers the result is a sonic "hole". If the subwoofer and speaker overlap in response the result is one of a "boomy" nature. Both are considered unacceptable and will produce poor sound quality. It is essential that the subwoofer "hand off" the duties to the speaker at the right frequency, so that the subwoofer and speaker sound like a pair of large speakers, and not a subwoofer with separate speakers. In a properly set up system, you will not be able to identify the separate components. Placement of the subwoofer, as well as adjustments made to crossover and level controls will assist in blending the output.

You should not be able to hear your subwoofer as a separate entity—it should seem that your main speakers go deeper with greater impact and authority.

Source, Energy website FAQs.

Some people are bass heads, but you don't have to run your sub hot.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by tootall82103

I always liked looking at that since the PL-200 is a step up from the H-100, I assume it would be a few more points if not above the A2-300.
Seeing as they are so close already, and you don't really care for the looks of the ED, you can't go wrong with the PL-200 for its price to performance.

Maybe I don't think that anyone on here would argue that the eD A2-300 is the end-all be-all sub made, however, for the price to performance factor it is one of the hardest to beat. The PL200 retails at $650, again as I said, the Internet Direct companies offer so much more then those that are sold at Brick and Mortar stores like Best Buy or where ever you would buy a Bic.

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by kareface

What? I'm confused, are you telling him that the size of the room doesn't change which subs would be more effective? From a physics standpoint that would be just false, the Inverse-square law would suggest for larger volume rooms he'll need either a higher SPL sub or many smaller SPL subs. You need more power as you scale the room up in size so the size of the room directly impacts which subs he should be considering.

My point is if you have a small room, you don't need a small subwoofer just for that reason. For a larger room, the same does not apply. You generally need larger subwoofers for larger rooms.

Originally Posted by derzauberer

The OP specifically stated:

1. I am not really interested in seeing if I can shake my house off its foundations either. So again I am not looking to turn my living room into a club.

It seems to me the prevailing logic being offered for #1 is this. The eD sub cost more and it's more reputable, therefore it must be better. The PA 120 costs less; it is fairly reputable; and it has adequate bass response to make this guy happy. But they still insist, don't get it, get the eD 300 instead. Yet some still argued contrary to the OP's request that the eD sub can go down to 16 HZ vs the 22 HZ for the PA 120. That doesn't prove that the eD sub is better for the OP. However, I would rather have a sub going down to 22 HZ that has a smoother bass response than one going down to 16 HZ that is peaky. I am not saying that the eD is peaky either, just stating my preference in a sub. I don't think one can buy a sub based on specifications alone. You have to audition it. Anyway, no one provided a good answer based on the OP's request.

2. Has anyone tried BOTH of them out and compared? On paper (aside from dimension) they seem very close. I am looking to save as much money as I can but I am also willing to spend if it is worth it for my use (hey money saved equals blu ray money!)


No one has answered #2. Actually, the only ones qualified to answer the OP's question with a real opinion that's not based on hearsay, folklore, and myth are the ones who own both the eD 300 and PA 120 subs.

The eD sub is no doubt a great sub and it has become a legend. But it seems to me what the OP wants to know besides how closely they compare, is this. Can he buy the PA 120 and still be happy with it's performance? This question remains unanswered unless someone who has compared both subs comes forward and offer him a valid opinion. Of course any answer is an opinion since the OP didn't really ask for proof. He got a lot of opinions but all of them were invalid.

People aren't really blindly recommending the A2-300 in this situation. I recommended the A2-300 from what I've read concerning the PA and from personal experience with the A2-300. I also was suggesting that of the two, extension wise at least, the A2-300 is better than the PA. I cannot comment on the musicality of the PA but can say the A2-300 is not peaky. Peaks that you may experience would likely be do to the room acoustics. Auditioning both subwoofers is out of the question here. Your second point was answered by the response from Zippo.

Originally Posted by derzauberer

Thank you zippo for that very informative response and addressing those issues. I'm sure the OP is very grateful and hopefully he can now make an informed decision.

If I lived in an apartment, I would personally get the PA 120 because it costs less and I wouldn't be inclined to play it at louder levels anyway so as not to anger other tenants.

If I had a home and don't have to worry about disturbing the neighbors, then the eD 300 would be the better choice since I can go as loud as I dare to go.

To be clear, the PA is absolutely a great secondary option. I'm not throwing the PA out of the question at all. It is a great looking subwoofer that fits in with the decor of many homes and speakers and offers very promising performance. For the money, having both may be worth the tradeoff for those with a higher WAF restriction. The PA can get pretty loud too.

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by Kali157

Driver_King, first off you are NOT defensive or "salesman" like. Your post is EXACTLY the type of comparative analysis I am looking for, even if you have not owned the PA120.

Tootall, the BIC sounds VERY intriguing. Thanks for the suggestion and the coupon (btw does that coupon expire?). $279 out the door sounds great. I am actually considering this over the PA120. I am trying to search for reviews on the sub but can only find some forum posts. Any help?

I was actually about to pull the trigger on the ED but after looking at the sub, something kinda bugged me about it... its the look. I wish they invested a little more in the the look of their sub esp since it is so BIG. Ultimately I think this may stop me from purchasing their sub.

Maybe BIC is a good medium btwn look and function... and price. Any thoughts?

Thanks again for the responses

The BIC and PA are worthy choices. If the aesthetics of the A2-300 don't work for you, hey, it's your place! If you do decide to go with the A2-300 though and aesthetics are an issue, you could put a blanket or something over the top of it and make it an end table.

[JasonR]

Originally Posted by derzauberer

2. Has anyone tried BOTH of them out and compared? On paper (aside from dimension) they seem very close. I am looking to save as much money as I can but I am also willing to spend if it is worth it for my use (hey money saved equals blu ray money!)

Originally Posted by callas01

Here is a review done of several subwoofers, the first number is the subs combined score for both HT and music, the (ww-xx) are the individual scores, with HT being the first number and music the second number.

Note that there is a trend here... the companies like SVS, eD and Hsu have a lot of listings and only the H100(aka PL100 your predicessor) is listed at the bottom. Now I know that not all subs can be on here, it would just be too difficult, BUT the trend is eD, SVS and Hsu over and over. There has to be a reason for that.... And there are few subs on this list that are sold at Dealers, but the Majority were ID companies, because they can get you more Bang for the Buck. ALSO a quick look at the AVSforum.com site their was a thread about the PL200(H200) and one guy noted that the sub uses the EXACT same amp as the Hsu STF-2... there is a little debate about it, but wow the resemblance is uncanny.... that said, it appears that the Bic is a decent unit. I think you have some good choices in front of you. Good luck on whatever you decide.

Elemental Designs A7-900 ($2200 ID/SI): 116 points (63-53)
Epik Conquest ($1599 ID): 112 points (60-52)
SVS PB13-Ultra ($1499 ID): 109 points (57-52)
Epik Castle ($999 ID): 109 points (59-50)
AV123 MFW-15 Duals: 109 points (56-53) (note, duals were tested as duals are offered as a package)
Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver + Behringer EP-2500 Amp + Behringer DEQ2496 ($1630 ID): 105 points (57-48)
JL Audio Fathom 113 ($3500 BM): 103 points (53-50)
AV123 MFW-15 ($599 ID): 103 points (53-50)
Def Tech Trinity ($3000 BM): 102 points (54-48)
Velodyne DD-18 ($5000 BM): 100 points (50-50)
ACI Maestro ($2400 ID): 97 points (47-50)
eD A5-350 ($715 ID/SI): 96 points (50-46)
JL Audio Fathom 112 ($2600 BM): 95 points (45-50)
Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo ($999 ID): 94 points (47-47)
Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo ($899 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III + Turbo ($799 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Epik Valor ($549 ID): 91 points (44-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III w/o Turbo ($699 ID): 91 points (45-46)
SVS PB12-Ultra: 90 points (47-43)
Axiom EP-500 ($1230 ID/SI): 90 points (43-47)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III + Turbo ($599 ID): 88 points (42-46)
SVS PB12-Plus/2 ($1299 ID): 87 points (47-40)
SVS PB12-NSD ($599 ID): 86 points (43-43)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III w/o Turbo ($499 ID): 86 points (40-46)
Rocket UFW-12 ($999 ID): 85 points (provisional) (35-50)
Elemental Designs A2-300 ($350 ID/SI): 83 points (44-39)
SVS PB10-NSD ($429 ID): 83 points (43-40)
Dana Audio 600 ($869 ID): 83 points (36-47)
Rocket X-Sub ($199 ID): 78 points (34-44)
BIC H-100 ($229 eBay): 78 points (40-38)
Rocket Tyke: 60 points (If you care, PM me ... )

The BIC H-100 and the PA-120 are supposed to be very comparable, and are made by the same company. So, the post above would be very relative in terms of comparison.

[Kali157]

Originally Posted by Driver_King

The BIC and PA are worthy choices. If the aesthetics of the A2-300 don't work for you, hey, it's your place! If you do decide to go with the A2-300 though and aesthetics are an issue, you could put a blanket or something over the top of it and make it an end table.

Or as a second couch Jk

I am going with the Bic PL-200 and will post thoughts and pics when I can.

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by Kali157

Or as a second couch Jk

I am going with the Bic PL-200 and will post thoughts and pics when I can.

Congratulations. Don't forget to turn it up.

[callas01]

congrats, enjoy. let us know what you think, however I think you will be pretty pleased.

[drummerboy_2002]

Originally Posted by callas01

Here is a review done of several subwoofers, the first number is the subs combined score for both HT and music, the (ww-xx) are the individual scores, with HT being the first number and music the second number.

Nice list callas. Where'd you dig that up from?

[callas01]

Originally Posted by drummerboy_2002

Nice list callas. Where'd you dig that up from?

its from the AVSforum.com

[JasonR]

Originally Posted by drummerboy_2002

Nice list callas. Where'd you dig that up from?

http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11

[callas01]

Originally Posted by JasonR

http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11

even better....