Best Buy Samsung 55" 3D LCD = WOW

[radagast]

I read somewhere that Samsung (and all other 3D LCD TVs) do not show 1080p in 3D mode, whereas plasmas do show 3D in 1080p. True or not?

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by radagast

I read somewhere that Samsung (and all other 3D LCD TVs) do not show 1080p in 3D mode, whereas plasmas do show 3D in 1080p. True or not?

I have read the same thing????????????????????

[BojTrek]

I just picked up Toy Story I and II and stopped over to see the Samsung and the Monsters Vs Aliens demo.

I sat down and yes... the 3D does work, but it is not really coming out of the screen. But... it does work in a View-Master sort of way.

It gives it depth that to me was much better than the movie theater experience. And the flicker lenses actually does not get me sick like in the movie theater watching Avatar and Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs.

So, that is a good thing... I can watch it and hopefully not get nauseous.

Now back to the 3D, there was an echo or double-image in the demo when words were on the screen. But like I said the View-Master effect works really well and it looks like things are on different layers.

That being said, the View-Master effect makes the movie looks less than real-life compared to the 2D look... if that makes sense... it looks like a pop-up book and not good in my opinion. In 2D it looks beautiful, but 3D while cool is not worth buying for me... YET?

[Odin75]

Originally Posted by BojTrek

pop-up book

BINGO!
Those are the words I was looking for to describe the Samsung demo.

It gives the impression that the Tv is a book, and characters in the movie are pop-up pictures. While it creates a different sense of depth, it's just not 3D, as it feels like the image is attached to the tv still (just like a book). I honestly think 2D looks better. Lets see if my opinion changes when I get to see the Panasonic demo.

[Vicon]

Originally Posted by radagast

I read somewhere that Samsung (and all other 3D LCD TVs) do not show 1080p in 3D mode, whereas plasmas do show 3D in 1080p. True or not?

Originally Posted by JimShaw

I have read the same thing????????????????????

I saw the Panasonic 3D info video and Panasonic 3D specifically stated that each eye gets a full 1080p picture. Not half and half unlike other brands.

I have not see any info regarding this from Samsung. It seems they are avoiding answering that question.

[raygendreau]

Just got back from viewing both Panasonic 3D Plasma and Samsung 3D LED-LCD at Best Buy in Montclair, CA. I liked the Panny better. The glasses did not drop off in brightness as the angle changed as it did with the Sammy. Monsters vs Aliens was demoed on the Sammy, while the media on the Panny included a variety such as sports shots and travelogues. A shot of a player sliding to home base in slo-mo was SPECTACULAR. I could almost feel the sand hit my face. All in all a very comfortable viewing experience with no artifacts or ghosting.

The watch battery that powers the glasses is said to last about 75 hrs at about $5 per battery.

Guess I'll have to wait until June when the PS3 3D firmware update comes out to see if there are any compatibility issues. I think there is a question about the PS3 providing Full HD (1080P) to both eyes.

The other issue I'm not sure about is HDMI 1.3 vs 1.4 and the need to buy a new receiver.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by BojTrek

I just picked up Toy Story I and II and stopped over to see the Samsung and the Monsters Vs Aliens demo.

I sat down and yes... the 3D does work, but it is not really coming out of the screen. But... it does work in a View-Master sort of way.

It gives it depth that to me was much better than the movie theater experience. And the flicker lenses actually does not get me sick like in the movie theater watching Avatar and Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs.

So, that is a good thing... I can watch it and hopefully not get nauseous.

Now back to the 3D, there was an echo or double-image in the demo when words were on the screen. But like I said the View-Master effect works really well and it looks like things are on different layers.

That being said, the View-Master effect makes the movie looks less than real-life compared to the 2D look... if that makes sense... it looks like a pop-up book and not good in my opinion. In 2D it looks beautiful, but 3D while cool is not worth buying for me... YET?

Same I saw it for the first time on friday at bestbuy and was expecting just what I got, and that was everything you said lol. Maybe if it was a free feature with the TV I wanted I'd get it but I would never go out of my way to get what I saw at bestbuy...

It would have to be the most amazing thing ever for me to wear 3d glasses every time I watch a movie.

[Vicon]

You all are watching the wrong 3D television is the problem. Go watch the Panasonic.

The Samsung is crap compared to it. It's like a night and day difference.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by BojTrek

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That being said, the View-Master effect makes the movie looks less than real-life compared to the 2D look... if that makes sense... it looks like a pop-up book and not good in my opinion. In 2D it looks beautiful, but 3D while cool is not worth buying for me... YET?

Eventually there will be 3D movies that begin life as 3D, not converted 2D. The live sports broadcasts are supposed to have different perspectives on objects so they look real instead of like a flat picture raised above the background.

[JimShaw]

I think this thread has been about the Samsung C7000 series. I just noticed that Amazon has the 55C8000 series now up for sale for $2,991.00. That price is only $12 more then what BB is selling the 55C7000 for. If I remember correctly the 7000 is edge lit where as the 8000 is edge lit with local dimming (a full LED TV, correct?)

[Vicon]

Originally Posted by ckenisell

Awesome information! Thanks Vicon (Love the "V" profile pic too, BTW). I didn't realize that the general consensus was that plasma was better than LCD. The problems that plagued plasma early on was the "screen door effect" and burn-in.

I think we are in the same boat. If there's enough 3D content, I'll jump in. I'm really looking forward to gaming in 3D, so I'm going to also wait and see which game developers decide to support 3D rendering. I'm really hoping that patches are released to some of my favorite existing games. I hope they don't just support it on newer games. I'd even be willing to pay $5 to $10 to patch a game to be 3D capable. I mean, I wouldn't expect these game developers to R&D the 3D rendering for free (unless Sony does all of the R&D and makes it easy for these developers to add).

Of course, movies will be the cats me"wow"!

You guys are really solidifying my decision to get the Panasonic Plasma 3D HDTV.

Not a problem. I myself am pretty excited but like I said, I will take a wait and see approach before jumping in. Content is key. There needs to be enough of it to justify the cost.

As for games/gaming, you can bet your bottom dollar there will be double/triple dips coming when 3D is available. You are also looking at new consoles. I don't think the 360 can even begin to do 3D. I seriously doubt MS even planned for it. Sony on the other hand, did. So no issues there.

Originally Posted by ascendedcobra

I have heard this term used for dlp rptvs but not for plasmas. If I had to guess he may have seen some 720p plasmas and I myself can notice the pixels. That could be a screen door effect. I thought I was the only one that noticed it. Its one of the reasons I think 1080p> 720p but the experts here will disagree. Anyways I didnt see anything of the sort on this Panny 3D plasma. The PQ is beautiful.

Yeah, "screen door" is a term for DLP. Never heard it used in reference to plasmas. Then again, it could be a really really old problem that plasmas had way back. Either way, they don't have any issues like that.

[ascendedcobra]

I just found out 2 people from my work already own the samsung 55c7000. So I was asking lots of questions. Both seem to really like it but one commented its too early to do a proper calibration. I asked about cross talk and brightness. One said little to no cross talk at all and had to turn the brightness down. The other said he saw some cross talk on some of the 3D conversion stuff. I will ask them more when I get the chance.

[Hale-Bopp]

I can't help but think that 2-D to 3-D conversions are going to suffer no matter how well calibrated a home system is set up. If anything kills the 3-D market, it's going to be that.

[ckenisell]

Originally Posted by Hale-Bopp

I can't help but think that 2-D to 3-D conversions are going to suffer no matter how well calibrated a home system is set up. If anything kills the 3-D market, it's going to be that.

I agree. Faux 3D is not what we need! That's like calling 480p upconverts high-def.

[psychofire1]

Originally Posted by Oniichan

Hi all, I was just at Best Buy today, i picked up Ninja Assisin in Blu Ray, i walked over to the tv section to see if they had the 3D set up yet, sure enuff, i put the glasses on, they were showing a 2 minute loop of Aliens Versus Monsters, and it looked spetacular, the 3D scenes were looking sweet, there was one part where she aimed the alien pistol, it actually looked like it was coming out of the screen, lol...oh yeah, i cant wait, myself i am waiting for that 72 inch Vizio to come out...:P

this encourages me. i bought the 46'' size of that tv. : ] buuut itll be like a month before i get it thanks to living in japan.