Blu-ray vs HD DVD: New Article

[ReduxInflux]

Originally Posted by BluDrew

How old is everyone in here? 15, 16? One would think that serious high-def movie afficionados would articulate their sentiments in a less vitriolic fashion. Behaving like prepubescent hoodlums accomplishes nothing. Instead, why don't you write the writer, speak to the speaker, debate convincingly and share your desire to support Blu-ray as adults, not undisciplined school children.

ha ha ha. aside from age - your sentiments regarding knee jerk vulgarities are mine on every thread i read.

now about the article - my main concern in reading it was the authoring bit. is bd-j really that difficult to author? enough to deter studios from supporting it? i don't think so. why would the paramount techies, against the lesser judgment of their executive branch, reportedly prefer blu-ray over hd-dvd if this was the case?

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by BluDrew

How old is everyone in here? 15, 16?

Some people are.

[DJeffries]

DreamWorks, Paramount and Universal are betting that HD DVD’s powerful tools for interactivity will let them make a tonne of money out of selling all manner of online services to customers who buy their discs. That’s why, ultimately, Toshiba’s David could yet topple Sony’s Goliath in the current video wars.

Just what I want, need to go out and buy these ads .

[bryaaaant]

Originally Posted by DJeffries

Just what I want, need to go out and buy these ads .

Like I'd really buy some BS ringtone through my movie player.. -_-




HD-DUD mentality: F*ck the consumers, it's all about the $$$.


Next thing you know, there'd be pop-up ad capable HD-DUD players. LOL.

[cartier]

This is my favorite part:

Originally Posted by ReduxInflux

The defection certainly levels the playing field in terms of titles released exclusively in one format or the other. I

Let me get this straight 2 = 4, (Uni & Para) = (Disney, Sony, Fox, MGM). I always thought the Economist did research before they released an article. I am very disappointed. This does not even take into account the quality of the titles, allow me to extrapolate this equation out even further: Evan Almighty = Pirates of the Caribbean 3. Yes! It all makes perfect sense now.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by cartier

Let me get this straight 2 = 4, (Uni & Para) = (Disney, Sony, Fox, MGM). I always thought the Economist did research before they released an article. I am very disappointed. This does not even take into account the quality of the titles, allow me to extrapolate this equation out even further: Evan Almighty = Pirates of the Caribbean 3. Yes! It all makes perfect sense now.

No, no, no. Because you've proven that 2 == 4, it must follow that Evan Almighty == Pirates of the Caribbean 3 + Live Free or Die Hard.

:-)

[CptGreedle]

It's all just FUD. It is all BS. It is also missing key data and is totally one sided (HD-DUD sided).
Just ignore it. Sales figures speak for themselves.

[DavePS3]

No mention of the following in terms of audio specs either...

According to the DTS website, Blu-Ray’s HD audio capacity has a higher ceiling for the new ‘Hi-Definition’ audio than HD-DVD. How much higher? Well, with Blu’, the site states 24.5Mbps per HD Master Audio compared to 18.0 on HD-DVD. The DTS High Resolution Audio is 6.0Mbps on Blu and just 3.0 on HD-DVD. That’s not a choice, it’s simply the space restriction on the latter format. The other important thing to note about the new HD audio formats, is that you DON’T necessarily need HDMI 1.3 to carry them. My contact at HDMI says all previous versions of HDMI will carry the new HD audio paths. DTS on the other hand says that’s not entirely true. DTS says more specifically, that if the PCM output is used, the DTS-HD can be run through analog outputs but add, earlier versions of HDMI were tested in their labs and as a result, any previous version of HDMI other than 1.3, will NOT carry DTS-HD via bitstream. That, you need 1.3 for. Since HDMI’s inception, it’s always been able to pass 8 channel 192khz/24 bit but the boys at HDMI add that if you want your AV receiver to perform the decoding INSTEAD of your source such as a Blu-Ray player, 1.3 will be necessary. DTS agrees.

[POTC123]

IMO, you can look at it one way, HD-DVD, all it is, is DVD, with HD stuck on the front, and by comparisson has less quality. blu-ray is a new format all together, hence an actual step in quality.

[erowe83]

Originally Posted by POTC123

IMO, you can look at it one way, HD-DVD, all it is, is DVD, with HD stuck on the front, and by comparisson has less quality. blu-ray is a new format all together, hence an actual step in quality.

What? Uhhh dont get me wrong I highly prefer Blu-ray but HD-DVD is a huge step in quality from DVD just like Blu-ray...

[Lt. Drebin]

Originally Posted by POTC123

IMO, you can look at it one way, HD-DVD, all it is, is DVD, with HD stuck on the front, and by comparisson has less quality. blu-ray is a new format all together, hence an actual step in quality.

Hmm...wow. Don't even have to do any real world comparisons, huh. Sold.

[matthewrounds]

Originally Posted by ReduxInflux

That’s not all. Engineers who’ve worked with both formats say Blu-ray is a pig to program. While extremely flexible, its programming language, BD-Java, requires lots of low-level code for even the simplest of instructions. The highly skilled programmers needed to do the job don’t exactly grow on trees. And because of the program’s complexity, even the best produce their share of bug-ridden software.

As an Engineer this kind of comment makes me sick. Engineers take on complex problems to find easy solutions. If everyone could do it there would be no reason for Engineers in the world. On the other hand Computer Science seems to be more prevalent than ever. MS doesn't want to employ engineers because they might actually get a product that works. Instead they employ hardcore programmers who were taught JAVA before they were ever taught C or C++. Never compare a Computer Science Programmer to an Engineer who can program, the difference is light years in favor of the engineer because they can see the bigger picture.

[erowe83]

Originally Posted by matthewrounds

As an Engineer this kind of comment makes me sick. Engineers take on complex problems to find easy solutions. If everyone could do it there would be no reason for Engineers in the world. On the other hand Computer Science seems to be more prevalent than ever. MS doesn't want to employ engineers because they might actually get a product that works. Instead they employ hardcore programmers who were taught JAVA before they were ever taught C or C++. Never compare a Computer Science Programmer to an Engineer who can program, the difference is light years in favor of the engineer because they can see the bigger picture.

thats true but if it is a major difference in difficulty (which I HIGHLY doubt) then it would favor HD-DVD. But I think this is a complete lie.

[doctorD]

The thing that is most interesting to me on this article is that if they have more HD DVD standalone players out there then why are all of those people buying more movies? Also, if they are banking on the interactivity of HDi, then why weren't there more sales on movies like 300?

It appears to me that outside of paying other studios off, the only other way for the HD DVD group hope to get more consumers is to try to mis-inform consumers over the internet like this article is trying to do. I'm beting that this writer hasn't even gone out to investigate for himself to see how each process is performed. It sounds like he is going off of hersay.

I still think that as long as BDA advertising market takes off, the Disney tour should be a big help, and educate consumers Blu ray will sale.

That's my $.02 anyways!