Ghost in the Shell BD Re-release - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

svenge · 06-04-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by thebard

Good for now. Will look at replacing down the line, as the JP 2.0 disc apparently does have different specs.

The JP 2.0 disc has only 2 'extras', both in HD:

"Promotion movie" (41 s)
"Theatrical Trailer" (51 s)

Here's the BDINFO scan for it:

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Here's the BDINO scan for the US disc for comparison:

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In short, the JP disc has a ~50% higher video bitrate (34 mbps vs. 23 mbps) but has a 16-bit 6.1 channel JP audio track instead of the 24-bit 6.1 channel JP track on the US release, and also lacks the English dub (for what that's worth).

thebard · 06-04-2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by svenge

In short, the JP disc has a ~50% higher video bitrate (34 mbps vs. 23 mbps) but has a 16-bit 6.1 channel JP audio track instead of the 24-bit 6.1 channel JP track on the US release, and also lacks the English dub (for what that's worth).

Do you know if the JP 2.0 disc sold individually is identical to the one sold in the box set?

svenge · 06-04-2014, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thebard

Do you know if the JP 2.0 disc sold individually is identical to the one sold in the box set?

It should be. The catalog number for the stand-alone 2.0 disc is BCXA-0100, which seems to match the disc bundled in the box set.

UseY0ur1llusi0n · 06-05-2014, 08:59 AM

I don't understand, this thread was first started to post about the ORIGINAL Ghost in the Shell film getting a re-release on Blu-ray back in 2011, and for some reason people started posting pics of that shitty 2.0 Box...2.0. is awful and should be avoided.

Fortunately, as Bubblegum mentioned, you can import the Japanese BD of the original print which comes with English audio and subtitles. The 2.0 version is absolutely awful, don't buy that garbage.

Stinky-Dinkins · 06-05-2014, 11:40 AM

That 2.0 box comes with the original, the same exact one you linked.

svenge · 06-05-2014, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UseY0ur1llusi0n

Nope, the original that comes in that 2.0 box is a poop upscale from the laser disc. Worse than the DVD. You all wasted your money!

You're probably thinking of the Manga US release of GitS 2.0 there (which had the poor upscale contained on the same disc), as the separate GitS 1.0 disc in the 2.0 LE box set is same as the 2007 BD/DVD combo box per AV Watch and Bandia Visual's site.

GitS 2.0 came out 16 months after the original film's BD release, so it would make absolutely no sense to not reuse that pressing for the box set...

Stinky-Dinkins · 06-05-2014, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UseY0ur1llusi0n

Nope, the original that comes in that 2.0 box is a poop upscale from the laser disc. Worse than the DVD. You all wasted your money!

No, Einstein, it isn't. It's the same exact BD re-issue release you linked, hence why people were talking about that Japanese box set in this thread. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the crappy US release.

UseY0ur1llusi0n · 06-05-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by UseY0ur1llusi0n

You all wasted your money!

Seems someone has caught on

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

No, Einstein, it isn't.

Okay that's it. Take off your shirt and get outiside right now we are going to throw down.

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Originally Posted by svenge

You're probably thinking of the Manga US release of GitS 2.0 there (which had the poor upscale contained on the same disc),

It seems that's the case. I hated 2.0 so much, that I had avoided all contact with it on BD and just assumed the original movie included on all the 2.0 releases contained the bad 1080i transfer or something. lol

I still don't understand how in the hell anyone could buy that 2.0 version and not the ~~original~~ real version of the movie on BD from Japan.

Original

2.0

Original

2.0

Original

2.0

Look at all that piss filter, yuck..

I have no f*cking idea what Oshii was thinking.

Stinky-Dinkins · 06-05-2014, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UseY0ur1llusi0n

I still don't understand how in the hell anyone could buy that 2.0 version

People bought that specific one because of the stuff it came with. It came with the unaltered original in the highest quality you could buy (and that still holds true today), a soundtrack, a separate disc of extras, etc. all in a high quality box. Even if you're interested in only the original theatrical release, it's still the best overall package you can buy.

thebard · 06-05-2014, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

People bought that specific one because of the stuff it came with. It came with the unaltered original in the highest quality you could buy (and that still holds true today), a soundtrack, a separate disc of extras, etc. all in a high quality box. Even if you're interested in only the original theatrical release, it's still the best overall package you can buy.

^^ This.

As for 1llusi0n's question as to why anyone would buy the single-disc edition of 2.0... it might be a question of cost for some. The Japanese blu-rays are kind of rich for the casual viewer's blood, and it seems the upcoming (September) UK steelbook may be the most cost-effective way to get the original release atm.

Bubblegum2032 · 06-05-2014, 06:16 PM

GITS can certainly look a lot better than it does right now on Blu-ray. The HDTV version despite its abundance of artefacting during fast motion is proof of that. I’m interested to see what the pq is like on the UK release to see if it addresses the softness, and more importantly, rampant crushed blacks that have plagued all releases before it.

Radical Ed · 06-09-2014, 02:58 AM

Aw, what a deal! Though I'm not sure if it included the film strip. Nevertheless, I really want to kick myself in the head for missing out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghost-in-the...p2047675.l2557

svenge · 06-09-2014, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Radical Ed

Aw, what a deal! Though I'm not sure if it included the film strip. Nevertheless, I really want to kick myself in the head for missing out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghost-in-the...p2047675.l2557

We were actually discussing that auction in this thread; as it turns out the 2.0 disc and individual case that was sent out was the US version, not the JP disc that should've been in the set...

thebard · 06-09-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Radical Ed

Aw, what a deal! Though I'm not sure if it included the film strip. Nevertheless, I really want to kick myself in the head for missing out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghost-in-the...p2047675.l2557

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Originally Posted by svenge

We were actually discussing that auction in this thread; as it turns out the 2.0 disc and individual case that was sent out was the US version, not the JP disc that should've been in the set...

Yeah, that was me. Check a page back for my pics:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=20

Glad at least someone feels I got good deal...

billyearle · 09-25-2014, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

People bought that specific one because of the stuff it came with. It came with the unaltered original in the highest quality you could buy (and that still holds true today), a soundtrack, a separate disc of extras, etc. all in a high quality box. Even if you're interested in only the original theatrical release, it's still the best overall package you can buy.

I see there is a new US release of the original version. Anyone know if it would look better than the Japanese version in the box set? The review here doesn't mention the JP release, only that it's better than the shitty US upscale. I remember the JP blu looking a lot better than the upscale, but still needing improvement. From the review my guess is the new one will look better, but would like to hear from someone with more knowledge.
If this US one is really a new transfer, I wonder if an even better new Japanese BD could be coming soon. Though it's possible a new JP disc again won't include the English dub, which the review praises highly. When the dubbing is good, I prefer it with anime, so I can appreciate the visuals better.

Bubblegum2032 · 09-25-2014, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by billyearle

I see there is a new US release of the original version. Anyone know if it would look better than the Japanese version in the box set? The review here doesn't mention the JP release, only that it's better than the shitty US upscale. I remember the JP blu looking a lot better than the upscale, but still needing improvement. From the review my guess is the new one will look better, but would like to hear from someone with more knowledge.
If this US one is really a new transfer, I wonder if an even better new Japanese BD could be coming soon. Though it's possible a new JP disc won't include the English dub, which the review praises highly. When the dubbing is good, I prefer it with anime, so I can appreciate the visuals better.

Exact same transfer as the JP release, so they're identical with compression just a smidgen better on the new US/UK Blu.

billyearle · 09-26-2014, 01:46 AM

Thanks Powdered Toast Man! Did you get the release and find it to look any better in motion on your set? Sounds like I will pick this up. Also, I think the JP BD of the original version only had a dolby 2.0 track for English. From the review it sounds like the HD English dub is a whole new experience.

Stinky-Dinkins · 09-27-2014, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by billyearle

Thanks Powdered Toast Man!

Ahahaha. This cracked me the **** up for some reason, I was back in alternate 1950.

But yeah I own both now, just got the US copy a couple days ago. The newest US release is a mirror of the JP release but with better compression.

Unkown91687 · 04-26-2024, 06:29 AM

You (probably) think Eva's Platinum (Lol. In what sense) is identical to Japan's renewal don't you. A U.S. release fan boy.

apollo828 · 04-26-2024, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unkown91687

You (probably) think Eva's Platinum (Lol. In what sense) is identical to Japan's renewal don't you. A U.S. release fan boy.

Ummm...did you take your meds today? Just checking.

06-05-2014, 06:16 PM	#31
Bubblegum2032 Active Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2012 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	GITS can certainly look a lot better than it does right now on Blu-ray. The HDTV version despite its abundance of artefacting during fast motion is proof of that. I’m interested to see what the pq is like on the UK release to see if it addresses the softness, and more importantly, rampant crushed blacks that have plagued all releases before it. Last edited by Bubblegum2032; 06-05-2014 at 06:19 PM.

09-26-2014, 01:46 AM	#37
billyearle Special Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:semi-rural Japan 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:2837 DVD collection:470 Blu-ray reviews: 5	Thanks Powdered Toast Man! Did you get the release and find it to look any better in motion on your set? Sounds like I will pick this up. Also, I think the JP BD of the original version only had a dolby 2.0 track for English. From the review it sounds like the HD English dub is a whole new experience. Last edited by billyearle; 09-26-2014 at 01:51 AM.

06-05-2014, 11:40 AM	#25
Stinky-Dinkins Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:USA Blu-ray collection:1	That 2.0 box comes with the original, the same exact one you linked.

06-09-2014, 02:58 AM	#32
Radical Ed Senior Member Member since:Mar 2009 4K collection:152 Blu-ray collection:703 DVD collection:185	Aw, what a deal! Though I'm not sure if it included the film strip. Nevertheless, I really want to kick myself in the head for missing out. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghost-in-the...p2047675.l2557

04-26-2024, 06:29 AM	#39
Unkown91687 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2019 Blu-ray collection:16 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:38	You (probably) think Eva's Platinum (Lol. In what sense) is identical to Japan's renewal don't you. A U.S. release fan boy.

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