Counteract HD DVD's desperate BlockBuster petition

[zombieking]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

We don't have to sign any petitions.

All we have to do is what we've been doing.... buying BDs.

I second that!!!

[dialog_gvf]

Exactly.

Buy discs. And then buy some more.

Oh, and pick up something extra on Sept. 18.

[kotton247]

I have one simple reply to this thread. Screw HD-Dud and there mindless sheep of so called supporters. Your not going to win, send your e-mails so all the MAJOR companies can laugh at your stupid purchase.

[Canada]

I take it Denon only is going to make Blu Ray.

"That's freekin sweet" Peter Griffin (Family Guy, Blu Ray only by the way)

A lot of home theater people swear by Denon

I want one of their new HDMI 1.3 receivers when it comes out.

[JadedRaverLA]

Everyone sign my HD DVD petition, and email it to all the BD-supporting companies with your signature:



We, the undersigned HD DVD zealots demand that your consumer electronics company, movie studio, or stores support our format of choice for the following reasons:

1) We purchased HD DVD players, knowing full well that your company supported the rival format, on the natural assumption that our single purchase would immediately cause your multinational corporation to rethink its long-term business strategy to agree with our decision,

2) We are the customers, and customers are always right. Now we don't buy your company's products or shop at your stores, and we spend every waking moment trashing your company on online message boards, but we still feel we have the right to demand action of you, without any promise that we would ever purchase your products in the future,

and

3) We believe that it is far more important for you to agree with our political agenda than for your company to make any money, or for this HD format "war" to end so that consumers may buy the rival format in confidence. Really, we want both formats to fail so that HD downloads can take over, which you company will make no money from, but Microsoft (the undeniably greatest corporation to ever rule the world) would profit nicely from. Hopefully, this will allow them to continue fixing all my defective XBox 360's that seem to break on a monthly basis.


Now, you have sided with "the other side" in this battle, so let us explain what is wrong with your logic:

1) High definition video should not require more space than an mp3. We have it on good authority that Microsoft is developing an improved VC-1 codec that will allow 300 hours of 1080p video to fit on a floppy disc. All this nonsense about bitrate and storage capacity is just FUD spouted by those who actually want HD optical discs to succeed. As we already stated, we do not, and 50GB is far too much to download... which is what we really want to do.

2) Sales don't matter. Sure, your internal research might show that Blu-ray disc sales are over twice that of HD DVD sales, and thus you may feel comfortable in your position. But see, according to our own made up research, all you should really care about are "attach rates," something that you always forget to mention in all of your investor reports and market analysis. The perfectly logical reason for this is that you will have far fewer customers, but they might buy more. This would allow you to close stores and fire employees as you would only need to have stores around those few people who are buying the discs. See. Less sales, but less overhead as well! Sure, it may not make sense to your accountants, but seriously... we've decided this matters. Also, in order to calculate the attach rate, please count every PS3 that has been produced worldwide as a BD player, and compare that the number of BD sales in the US. See how outrageously low that attach rate is... and it's all because the PS3 is a Blu-ray disc player.

3) Which brings us to... the PS3 is NOT a Blu-ray disc player, and the other side needs to stop claiming it as one. We certainly don't and never would (except when calculating point 2... then they all count... even if they're made for other parts of the world).

4) Price of players is the only thing that matters. And the price of discs doesn't matter at all. This certainly goes without saying, but cheap chinese players available in various cool lead-based colors will undoubtedly win the "war" for HD DVD. Toshiba has dropped prices an unprecedented number of times... and look how well it's worked! (Again, look at our claimed attach rate, not the actual sales.) We're right around the corner from the onslaught. That's why we feel so confident that we're starting this position to demand your support.


So, for all of these reasons, we demand that your company support our format. If you don't we will continue trashing your company online. If you do we promise to love you until all the HD DVD combo discs fail to play in your player (which they will fail... they've shown that), and then we'll go back to hating you. But, hey, it could be a nice couple of months.

Signed:

__HD DVD Zealot #1____________________________________

[Canada]

Man HD DVD must be getting desperate.

[Intamin]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

Everyone sign my HD DVD petition, and email it to all the BD-supporting companies with your signature:



We, the undersigned HD DVD zealots demand that your consumer electronics company, movie studio, or stores support our format of choice for the following reasons:

1) We purchased HD DVD players, knowing full well that your company supported the rival format, on the natural assumption that our single purchase would immediately cause your multinational corporation to rethink its long-term business strategy to agree with our decision,

2) We are the customers, and customers are always right. Now we don't buy your company's products or shop at your stores, and we spend every waking moment trashing your company on online message boards, but we still feel we have the right to demand action of you, without any promise that we would ever purchase your products in the future,

and

3) We believe that it is far more important for you to agree with our political agenda than for your company to make any money, or for this HD format "war" to end so that consumers may buy the rival format in confidence. Really, we want both formats to fail so that HD downloads can take over, which you company will make no money from, but Microsoft (the undeniably greatest corporation to ever rule the world) would profit nicely from. Hopefully, this will allow them to continue fixing all my defective XBox 360's that seem to break on a monthly basis.


Now, you have sided with "the other side" in this battle, so let us explain what is wrong with your logic:

1) High definition video should not require more space than an mp3. We have it on good authority that Microsoft is developing an improved VC-1 codec that will allow 300 hours of 1080p video to fit on a floppy disc. All this nonsense about bitrate and storage capacity is just FUD spouted by those who actually want HD optical discs to succeed. As we already stated, we do not, and 50GB is far too much to download... which is what we really want to do.

2) Sales don't matter. Sure, your internal research might show that Blu-ray disc sales are over twice that of HD DVD sales, and thus you may feel comfortable in your position. But see, according to our own made up research, all you should really care about are "attach rates," something that you always forget to mention in all of your investor reports and market analysis. The perfectly logical reason for this is that you will have far fewer customers, but they might buy more. This would allow you to close stores and fire employees as you would only need to have stores around those few people who are buying the discs. See. Less sales, but less overhead as well! Sure, it may not make sense to your accountants, but seriously... we've decided this matters. Also, in order to calculate the attach rate, please count every PS3 that has been produced worldwide as a BD player, and compare that the number of BD sales in the US. See how outrageously low that attach rate is... and it's all because the PS3 is a Blu-ray disc player.

3) Which brings us to... the PS3 is NOT a Blu-ray disc player, and the other side needs to stop claiming it as one. We certainly don't and never would (except when calculating point 2... then they all count... even if they're made for other parts of the world).

4) Price of players is the only thing that matters. And the price of discs doesn't matter at all. This certainly goes without saying, but cheap chinese players available in various cool lead-based colors will undoubtedly win the "war" for HD DVD. Toshiba has dropped prices an unprecedented number of times... and look how well it's worked! (Again, look at our claimed attach rate, not the actual sales.) We're right around the corner from the onslaught. That's why we feel so confident that we're starting this position to demand your support.


So, for all of these reasons, we demand that your company support our format. If you don't we will continue trashing your company online. If you do we promise to love you until all the HD DVD combo discs fail to play in your player (which they will fail... they've shown that), and then we'll go back to hating you. But, hey, it could be a nice couple of months.

Signed:

__HD DVD Zealot #1____________________________________

I lol'd irl. Good post

[ReduxInflux]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

Everyone sign my HD DVD petition, and email it to all the BD-supporting companies with your signature:



We, the undersigned HD DVD zealots demand that your consumer electronics company, movie studio, or stores support our format of choice for the following reasons:

1) We purchased HD DVD players, knowing full well that your company supported the rival format, on the natural assumption that our single purchase would immediately cause your multinational corporation to rethink its long-term business strategy to agree with our decision,

2) We are the customers, and customers are always right. Now we don't buy your company's products or shop at your stores, and we spend every waking moment trashing your company on online message boards, but we still feel we have the right to demand action of you, without any promise that we would ever purchase your products in the future,

and

3) We believe that it is far more important for you to agree with our political agenda than for your company to make any money, or for this HD format "war" to end so that consumers may buy the rival format in confidence. Really, we want both formats to fail so that HD downloads can take over, which you company will make no money from, but Microsoft (the undeniably greatest corporation to ever rule the world) would profit nicely from. Hopefully, this will allow them to continue fixing all my defective XBox 360's that seem to break on a monthly basis.


Now, you have sided with "the other side" in this battle, so let us explain what is wrong with your logic:

1) High definition video should not require more space than an mp3. We have it on good authority that Microsoft is developing an improved VC-1 codec that will allow 300 hours of 1080p video to fit on a floppy disc. All this nonsense about bitrate and storage capacity is just FUD spouted by those who actually want HD optical discs to succeed. As we already stated, we do not, and 50GB is far too much to download... which is what we really want to do.

2) Sales don't matter. Sure, your internal research might show that Blu-ray disc sales are over twice that of HD DVD sales, and thus you may feel comfortable in your position. But see, according to our own made up research, all you should really care about are "attach rates," something that you always forget to mention in all of your investor reports and market analysis. The perfectly logical reason for this is that you will have far fewer customers, but they might buy more. This would allow you to close stores and fire employees as you would only need to have stores around those few people who are buying the discs. See. Less sales, but less overhead as well! Sure, it may not make sense to your accountants, but seriously... we've decided this matters. Also, in order to calculate the attach rate, please count every PS3 that has been produced worldwide as a BD player, and compare that the number of BD sales in the US. See how outrageously low that attach rate is... and it's all because the PS3 is a Blu-ray disc player.

3) Which brings us to... the PS3 is NOT a Blu-ray disc player, and the other side needs to stop claiming it as one. We certainly don't and never would (except when calculating point 2... then they all count... even if they're made for other parts of the world).

4) Price of players is the only thing that matters. And the price of discs doesn't matter at all. This certainly goes without saying, but cheap chinese players available in various cool lead-based colors will undoubtedly win the "war" for HD DVD. Toshiba has dropped prices an unprecedented number of times... and look how well it's worked! (Again, look at our claimed attach rate, not the actual sales.) We're right around the corner from the onslaught. That's why we feel so confident that we're starting this position to demand your support.


So, for all of these reasons, we demand that your company support our format. If you don't we will continue trashing your company online. If you do we promise to love you until all the HD DVD combo discs fail to play in your player (which they will fail... they've shown that), and then we'll go back to hating you. But, hey, it could be a nice couple of months.

Signed:

__HD DVD Zealot #1____________________________________

ha ha ha done...

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

Everyone sign my HD DVD petition, and email it to all the BD-supporting companies with your signature:



We, the undersigned HD DVD zealots demand that your consumer electronics company, movie studio, or stores support our format of choice for the following reasons:

1) We purchased HD DVD players, knowing full well that your company supported the rival format, on the natural assumption that our single purchase would immediately cause your multinational corporation to rethink its long-term business strategy to agree with our decision,

2) We are the customers, and customers are always right. Now we don't buy your company's products or shop at your stores, and we spend every waking moment trashing your company on online message boards, but we still feel we have the right to demand action of you, without any promise that we would ever purchase your products in the future,

and

3) We believe that it is far more important for you to agree with our political agenda than for your company to make any money, or for this HD format "war" to end so that consumers may buy the rival format in confidence. Really, we want both formats to fail so that HD downloads can take over, which you company will make no money from, but Microsoft (the undeniably greatest corporation to ever rule the world) would profit nicely from. Hopefully, this will allow them to continue fixing all my defective XBox 360's that seem to break on a monthly basis.


Now, you have sided with "the other side" in this battle, so let us explain what is wrong with your logic:

1) High definition video should not require more space than an mp3. We have it on good authority that Microsoft is developing an improved VC-1 codec that will allow 300 hours of 1080p video to fit on a floppy disc. All this nonsense about bitrate and storage capacity is just FUD spouted by those who actually want HD optical discs to succeed. As we already stated, we do not, and 50GB is far too much to download... which is what we really want to do.

2) Sales don't matter. Sure, your internal research might show that Blu-ray disc sales are over twice that of HD DVD sales, and thus you may feel comfortable in your position. But see, according to our own made up research, all you should really care about are "attach rates," something that you always forget to mention in all of your investor reports and market analysis. The perfectly logical reason for this is that you will have far fewer customers, but they might buy more. This would allow you to close stores and fire employees as you would only need to have stores around those few people who are buying the discs. See. Less sales, but less overhead as well! Sure, it may not make sense to your accountants, but seriously... we've decided this matters. Also, in order to calculate the attach rate, please count every PS3 that has been produced worldwide as a BD player, and compare that the number of BD sales in the US. See how outrageously low that attach rate is... and it's all because the PS3 is a Blu-ray disc player.

3) Which brings us to... the PS3 is NOT a Blu-ray disc player, and the other side needs to stop claiming it as one. We certainly don't and never would (except when calculating point 2... then they all count... even if they're made for other parts of the world).

4) Price of players is the only thing that matters. And the price of discs doesn't matter at all. This certainly goes without saying, but cheap chinese players available in various cool lead-based colors will undoubtedly win the "war" for HD DVD. Toshiba has dropped prices an unprecedented number of times... and look how well it's worked! (Again, look at our claimed attach rate, not the actual sales.) We're right around the corner from the onslaught. That's why we feel so confident that we're starting this position to demand your support.


So, for all of these reasons, we demand that your company support our format. If you don't we will continue trashing your company online. If you do we promise to love you until all the HD DVD combo discs fail to play in your player (which they will fail... they've shown that), and then we'll go back to hating you. But, hey, it could be a nice couple of months.

Signed:

__HD DVD Zealot #1____________________________________

Good work!!

[bhampton]

I love reading over and over again in thier propoganda "Let the customer decide."

To be a customer you have to purchase something and look at the sales figures to see what the customers decided.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

Everyone sign my HD DVD petition, and email it to all the BD-supporting companies with your signature:



We, the undersigned HD DVD zealots demand that your consumer electronics company, movie studio, or stores support our format of choice for the following reasons:

1) We purchased HD DVD players, knowing full well that your company supported the rival format, on the natural assumption that our single purchase would immediately cause your multinational corporation to rethink its long-term business strategy to agree with our decision,

2) We are the customers, and customers are always right. Now we don't buy your company's products or shop at your stores, and we spend every waking moment trashing your company on online message boards, but we still feel we have the right to demand action of you, without any promise that we would ever purchase your products in the future,

and

3) We believe that it is far more important for you to agree with our political agenda than for your company to make any money, or for this HD format "war" to end so that consumers may buy the rival format in confidence. Really, we want both formats to fail so that HD downloads can take over, which you company will make no money from, but Microsoft (the undeniably greatest corporation to ever rule the world) would profit nicely from. Hopefully, this will allow them to continue fixing all my defective XBox 360's that seem to break on a monthly basis.


Now, you have sided with "the other side" in this battle, so let us explain what is wrong with your logic:

1) High definition video should not require more space than an mp3. We have it on good authority that Microsoft is developing an improved VC-1 codec that will allow 300 hours of 1080p video to fit on a floppy disc. All this nonsense about bitrate and storage capacity is just FUD spouted by those who actually want HD optical discs to succeed. As we already stated, we do not, and 50GB is far too much to download... which is what we really want to do.

2) Sales don't matter. Sure, your internal research might show that Blu-ray disc sales are over twice that of HD DVD sales, and thus you may feel comfortable in your position. But see, according to our own made up research, all you should really care about are "attach rates," something that you always forget to mention in all of your investor reports and market analysis. The perfectly logical reason for this is that you will have far fewer customers, but they might buy more. This would allow you to close stores and fire employees as you would only need to have stores around those few people who are buying the discs. See. Less sales, but less overhead as well! Sure, it may not make sense to your accountants, but seriously... we've decided this matters. Also, in order to calculate the attach rate, please count every PS3 that has been produced worldwide as a BD player, and compare that the number of BD sales in the US. See how outrageously low that attach rate is... and it's all because the PS3 is a Blu-ray disc player.

3) Which brings us to... the PS3 is NOT a Blu-ray disc player, and the other side needs to stop claiming it as one. We certainly don't and never would (except when calculating point 2... then they all count... even if they're made for other parts of the world).

4) Price of players is the only thing that matters. And the price of discs doesn't matter at all. This certainly goes without saying, but cheap chinese players available in various cool lead-based colors will undoubtedly win the "war" for HD DVD. Toshiba has dropped prices an unprecedented number of times... and look how well it's worked! (Again, look at our claimed attach rate, not the actual sales.) We're right around the corner from the onslaught. That's why we feel so confident that we're starting this position to demand your support.


So, for all of these reasons, we demand that your company support our format. If you don't we will continue trashing your company online. If you do we promise to love you until all the HD DVD combo discs fail to play in your player (which they will fail... they've shown that), and then we'll go back to hating you. But, hey, it could be a nice couple of months.

Signed:

__HD DVD Zealot #1____________________________________

Actually, someone should put that up. The great counter petition. See if we can get more signatures.

[Knight-Errant]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I love reading over and over again in thier propoganda "Let the customer decide."

To be a customer you have to purchase something and look at the sales figures to see what the customers decided.

I think they have a particular constomer in mind lol. And he probably posts on AVS

[w_tanoto]

stupid moves. I've sent counter-attack to New line cinema and blockbuster, involving the number of sales in several countries, whether I observed it myself, or from official report:
*USA
*UK
*Europe
*Japan
*Indonesia (BD exclusive as we speak - only BD exist)

[Sonny]

That was the biggest bunch of shit I have ever read in my life, hell the hd-dvd guys would not even buy that crap!

[w_tanoto]

sent out another e-mail for Buena Vista to stay blu.
Buena vista being my favourite studio with 54%+ of my collection from them

[TauRus]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Exactly.

Buy discs. And then buy some more.

Oh, and pick up something extra on Sept. 18.

... and rent a few more from BB too That's our way of petitioning them.

[UlicBelouve]

JadedRaverLA, I'll simply sign that at send it to my friend working at Blockbuster. That'll get a laugh out of them.

But seriously, we do need to continue voting with our wallets, but one distinction needs to be made:
Buying Blu-Rays does not move money or numbers past Blockbuster.

So I suggest renting some of the Blu-Rays, get them cycling through, and they'll see more good numbers. There are a few titles that I would want to see, but not buy, on Blu-Ray.

So, keep buying, but also try renting from them. I think one rental woud undo over 100 petition signatures.

[TauRus]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

Everyone sign my HD DVD petition, and email it to all the BD-supporting companies with your signature:
...
__HD DVD Zealot #1____________________________________

Hilarious!!! Man, you should be nominated for the Pulitzer! Nice and fun read, my friend!

[TruBlu2]

More idiotic behavior,

Blockbuster has already chosen sides with BD. The initial 250 test stores still have hddvd's and BD. The rest of the stores are slated for BD exclusivity. They are not just going to throw away the hddvd's. I would like them to, but they will not for now.

BB is Blu.

BD at my BB are moving off the shelves!!!!

hddead goodbye

[RangerSix]

Originally Posted by TauRus

Hilarious!!! Man, you should be nominated for the Pulitzer! Nice and fun read, my friend!

Great Read JadedRiver!