Music Hall MMF-2.2

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by TylerDurden

Hi John! While I've always been a vinyl collector for over 10 years. This is the
first time I have ever had a truly remarkable TT like the MH MMF-2.2. The sound quality is flawless and beautiful. I love how you can set the force tracking. They recommend between 17-18 and I have mine set on the highend at 18. The music sounds alot more punchier with the heavier setting even at 17.5 where I had it before amazing! A few upgrades I have is a brass weight clamp and an anti static mat which replaced the stock felt mat. I really want to get a speedbox next. And like callas01 mentioned the Pro-ject Debut and MH 2.2 are very interchangeable that they recommend their speedbox.

I don't use the dancing banana often, but I felt it was truly appropriate for my reply. I'm so happy to hear that you are pleased with your purchase and enjoying this great medium once again.

The Speedbox is a very nice product, and their top-of-the line version has been recommended for use with higher-end TT's as well by several dealers that I know.

Enjoy the "black gold" my friend!

[TylerDurden]

Originally Posted by callas01

whats even more interesting is that if you look at music direct, and you pull up a product for the Pro-jects, it will list the Music Hall TTs as suitable products to use with their TTs as well. Personally, I think theyre much more similar then different.

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-3094-pr...ed-box-ii.aspx

According Needle Doctor it's also compatible with the MMF-2.2.

Pro-Ject turntables sound great out of the box, but the Speed Box II offers an affordable and effective upgrade if you're looking to get a little more from your deck. First off, it allows you to switch between speeds with the push of a button, but most importantly, it reduces the speed variance of the record platter. This amounts to much more controlled and natural bass, heightened clarity through the mids , and tighter highs. The Pro-Ject Debut, Xpression, and RM5-SE all benefit tremendously from this upgrade.

A few conditions...

Works only with turntables that use the 16V/AC power supply by Pro-Ject

Also compatible with the Music Hall MMF2.2, MMF5.1, & MMF5.1SE

Models it will NOT work with: RM6.1, Xtension

78rpm is not available for the Xperience, PerspeX, RM9.1 and RM10

[callas01]

Originally Posted by TylerDurden

According Needle Doctor it's also compatible with the MMF-2.2.

I actually bought my Pro-Ject Debut from the Needle Doctor, I only wish I had got the cartridge upgrade at the time.... but oh-well. I do want to switch out the current platter to the Acryl-it platter, and then add a new cartridge down the line. Long term plan will be to add a phono pre-amp and a speed box, but that will be once im closer to getting an IA. That won't be for a while.

[TylerDurden]

Originally Posted by callas01

I actually bought my Pro-Ject Debut from the Needle Doctor, I only wish I had got the cartridge upgrade at the time.... but oh-well. I do want to switch out the current platter to the Acryl-it platter, and then add a new cartridge down the line. Longe term plan will be to add a phono pre-amp and a speed box, but that will be once im closer to getting an IA. That won't be for a while.

What mat did you upgrade to?

This one on Amazon is only $10. Its a cheap and relatively effective upgrade. It really does improve the noise reduction common with vinyl records. The only pops I get is an occasional dust drag or bump. I would also like to get the acrylic platter but its too expensive right now since I just bought all my gear recently.

Phonograph Turntable Record Player Anti Static Slip Mat

[callas01]

Originally Posted by TylerDurden

This one on Amazon is only $10. Its a cheap and relatively effective upgrade. It really does improve the noise reduction common with vinyl records. The only pops I get is an occasional dust drag or bump. I would also like to get the acrylic platter but its too expensive right now since I just bought all my gear recently.

Phonograph Turntable Record Player Anti Static Slip Mat

I hear you... Im about to drop $800 on a center channel in a month or two.... so getting anything right now is not really on the priority list.

my thought was that getting one for cheap would hold off wanting the acryl-it platter for a little bit.

EDIT:: Im bugged by a small warp in the aluminum platter on my TT.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by TylerDurden

This one on Amazon is only $10. Its a cheap and relatively effective upgrade. It really does improve the noise reduction common with vinyl records. The only pops I get is an occasional dust drag or bump. I would also like to get the acrylic platter but its too expensive right now since I just bought all my gear recently.

Phonograph Turntable Record Player Anti Static Slip Mat

BTW, where in SoCal are you at?

[Johnny Vinyl]

While it may seem that upgrading the MDF platter to an acrylic one is a good idea, it only has a benefit if there is an audible upgrade in sound. Most people could never tell the difference between the two, so think before you buy. Please remember I'm speaking about entry-level TT's only in this scenario.

My personal preference would be to upgrade the cartridge and add the Speedbox.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by callas01

I hear you... Im about to drop $800 on a center channel in a month or two.... so getting anything right now is not really on the priority list.

my thought was that getting one for cheap would hold off wanting the acryl-it platter for a little bit.

EDIT:: Im bugged by a small warp in the aluminum platter on my TT.

That a manufacturing default! Did this just occur?

[callas01]

Originally Posted by John72953

While it may seem that upgrading the MDF platter to an acrylic one is a good idea, it only has a benefit if there is an audible upgrade in sound. Most people could never tell the difference between the two, so think before you buy. Please remember I'm speaking about entry-level TT's only in this scenario.

My personal preference would be to upgrade the cartridge and add the Speedbox.

John,

This part
http://www.musicdirect.com/p-4987-pr...xpression.aspx

my aluminum one has a little warp and it bugs the SSSSit out of me.... or am I being picky?

[callas01]

Originally Posted by John72953

That a manufacturing default! Did this just occur?

always have been there.... as the TT is spinning, one little section of the aluminum platter raises up, causing the Tonearm and Cartridge to roll with it. It doesn't cause skipping or skating or anything, it tracks just fine tho.

[TylerDurden]

Originally Posted by callas01

BTW, where in SoCal are you at?

San Diego. Maybe one of these days the Blu-ray forum will have a meetup.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by callas01

John,

This part
http://www.musicdirect.com/p-4987-pr...xpression.aspx

my aluminum one has a little warp and it bugs the SSSSit out of me.... or am I being picky?

For $129.00 I don't personally think that the improvement in sound definition on an entry-level TT is worth it. By adding this your TT is now worth almost 30% more...are you going to get 30% improvement in sound quality? My answer would be no.

Regarding the platter, I would call whomever you bought it from and demand a replacement, if it's under warrenty.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by callas01

always have been there.... as the TT is spinning, one little section of the aluminum platter raises up, causing the Tonearm and Cartridge to roll with it. It doesn't cause skipping or skating or anything, it tracks just fine tho.

Have you checked to see if the spindle is 100% vertical? If it's slightly off, it could cause the platter to vary from a perfect horizontal turn.

[TylerDurden]

So there should be no variance in the platter spin at all? Because I have noticed a wobble on my table that I thought was normal. Doesn't effect playback either.

[callas01]

I get your point on the platter.

Ill check the spindle.

[callas01]

exactly, I thought it was normal.. I just figured it was the aluminum not being 100% uniform. So I figured the upgraded platter might fix it, and offer better sound at the same time,

[TylerDurden]

The only way to be sure is to use a carpenters level. Also note that some vinyl comes warped even straight from the factory.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by TylerDurden

The only way to be sure is to use a carpenters level. Also note that some vinyl comes warped even straight from the factory.

yeah, however it happens will all of my records so I think its a MFG or mechanical thing.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Also, check the level of the TT itself.

Back to front
Side to side
And at 45 degrees.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by TylerDurden

The only way to be sure is to use a carpenters level. Also note that some vinyl comes warped even straight from the factory.

Do not level with an LP on it.