Pee-wee's Big Adventure - October 4th, 2011

[Ite]

Originally Posted by BillyJack

the chain coming through the bottom made the film funnier IMO!

[DVDFreaker]

I am so buying it! One of my favorites!

[kinoeye]

Fantastic! I'll buy, one of my favourite films.

[Pelican170]

Cant wait for this one! lol, movie is too funny.

[DarknessBDJM]

Originally Posted by dougotte

I happened to catch part of it on HDNet last night. I sure hope the BD is a new transfer. That HDNet version was obviously old, with poor contrast and edge enhancement. It seemed to be cropped on top and bottom, too.

Doug

Warner crops their 1.85:1 releases to 1.78:1, not sure if they do this with every release, but they do with the ones I can remember.

[alphadec]

I just love this film the more u watch this more u love it.

I''m getting this.

[bboisvert]

YouTube - ‪Pee Wee's Big Adventure: Paging Mr. Herman‬‏

[notops]

Originally Posted by DarknessBDJM

Warner crops their 1.85:1 releases to 1.78:1, not sure if they do this with every release, but they do with the ones I can remember.

Warner does no cropping when changing the ratio from 1.85 to 1.78

Cropping implies losing information. No such thing happens, as the change from 1.85 to 1.78 actually adds information to the extreme top and bottom of the screen (assuming your Overscan is turned off).

[bboisvert]

And, it should be noted, the difference between 1.85 and 1.78 is pretty trivial. 99.99% of folks would never notice and it has really no impact on composition. It's a non-issue.

[Belloche]

Is this something you can share with the rest of us Amazing Larry ?

I've seen this movie countless times and I still laugh out loud at it. I'll probably have to make the upgrade.

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by bboisvert

And, it should be noted, the difference between 1.85 and 1.78 is pretty trivial. 99.99% of folks would never notice and it has really no impact on composition. It's a non-issue.

Agreed. We're talking about 20 pixels top and bottom (3.7% of the total picture), which is completely swallowed up by overscan on most sets. In fact, the difference is less than the margin of error you find in movie theaters, where screen-rigging, lens choice, and aperture plate filing can make the "1.85:1" aspect ratio appear as anything between 1.75:1 and 1.90:1 (or worse).

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

I loved that scene...because it really shows you how badly full-screen can screw things up.

Don't forget the roadsigns being clearly pulled by a rope along a dolly track.

Originally Posted by BillyJack

the chain coming through the bottom made the film funnier IMO!

[DarknessBDJM]

Originally Posted by notops

Warner does no cropping when changing the ratio from 1.85 to 1.78

Cropping implies losing information. No such thing happens, as the change from 1.85 to 1.78 actually adds information to the extreme top and bottom of the screen (assuming your Overscan is turned off).

No, that's not true. 1.85:1 is a wider ratio and to the 1.78:1/16:9 widescreen hdtv's use, they cannot produce it natively so what is done to the films shown unchanged in that ratio and keep the wider width is to essentially make it smaller to fit the screen and so one gets the small black bars at the top and bottom of the screen (the same thing with the even wider 2.39:1 films). When 1.85:1 films are adapted fit the entire screen vertically on a 1.78:1/16:9 tv screen they chop off some of the picture at the sides (which is absurd a the black bars at the top and bottom are too small to notice for most viewers). If you have a computer program like VLC you can see this for yourself as they have options for a 1.85:1 DVD or Blu-Ray image to fill the entire 16:9 screen.

It's not a lot of the image lost, but it is image lost and many people don't like that to varying degrees. It's nowhere near as bad as seeing 2.39:1 movies like Blade cropped to 1.78:1, but it's a problem nonetheless.

[Liquid_Swords]

Originally Posted by Lyle_JP

Don't forget the roadsigns being clearly pulled by a rope along a dolly track.

Ive seen this movie about 854 times and never noticed that part lol only the chain part I remember.

[Crimson King]

Paul Reubens (Pee Wee) had small roles in 2 C&C films and The Blues Brothers before his Big Adventure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vfTDErSC7w&feature=related

a shame there is not one C&C film on blu

[Chloenator]

YouTube - ‪I know you are but what am I? - Pee-Wee's Big Adventure‬‏

Francis: Oh Pee-Wee, listen to reason.
*Pee-Wee puts his hand by his ear*
Francis: Oh, come on!
Pee-Wee: Shhh! I'm listening to reason.

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by DarknessBDJM

When 1.85:1 films are adapted fit the entire screen vertically on a 1.78:1/16:9 tv screen they chop off some of the picture at the sides (which is absurd a the black bars at the top and bottom are too small to notice for most viewers). If you have a computer program like VLC you can see this for yourself as they have options for a 1.85:1 DVD or Blu-Ray image to fill the entire 16:9 screen.

You're making a critically bad assumption here. You are assuming that the image of the original photographic negative is hard-matted to 1.85:1 and therefore must be cropped to achieve a 1.778:1 AR. This is simply not the case 99% of the time. Hell, most theatrical film prints aren't even hard-matted to 1.85:1 for exhibition. Most 1.85:1 films are photographed by the camera in the Academy ratio (1.37:1) but framed for 1.85:1 in the camera's viewfinder. Sometimes Super35 (which has a native negative AR of 1.66:1) is used for 1.85:1, but not often since it must be optically reduced to make a film print instead of being printed directly. Modern digital cameras used for "film" production all shoot either 1.778 or 1.800 natively.

[Meathead]

Originally Posted by Fragile Line

YouTube - ‪I know you are but what am I? - Pee-Wee's Big Adventure‬‏

Francis: Oh Pee-Wee, listen to reason.
*Pee-Wee puts his hand by his ear*
Francis: Oh, come on!
Pee-Wee: Shhh! I'm listening to reason.

Best scene with the crazy road signs as Pee Wee is driving a close second

[wil_l_0w]

Originally Posted by PaulDHolloway

I actually like Big Top. I saw that one first before I ever saw. Pee Wee's Big Adventure

I also like Big Top! and hopefully it will be released sometime in the future.

[OB1KNBE]

YEAH! Pee Wee