meaning of life

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by maze

If somebody in the whole world knew what the meaning of life is, believe me, he/she wouldn't be writing in a forum.

1st thing is to not act like this guy!!!

live life to the fullest and not worry about things you can't control.......u'll get the answers to all of your questions @ the end.

[maze]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

1st thing is to not act like this guy!!!

live life to the fullest and not worry about things you can't control.......u'll get the answers to all of your questions @ the end.

Really?

First thing is to have sense of humor. Obviously, you don't have one.

Second (and that's why I'm actually writing this post), "not worry about things you can't control" means just "be passive". And if everybody has listened to you and nobody has worried through the years about things he/she can't control the mankind would have been still "hanging on the trees". So yours is nothing more than an empty advice. Of course, as I see, giving such "great" meanings of live, does not prevent you of judging others.

[maze]

Originally Posted by linkgx1

Please do.

Which makes me think, we're nearly 7 billion people. Should nearly 10 billion by the middle of this century. The question is, would population control be moral? Especially because there tends to be a tie/ratio of wealth-to-birth rate.

Well, although world's population continues to grow, actually the population growth rate steadily declines. So, around the middle of the century many prognoses predict that the overall population will also start to decrease after reaching a peak.

[Johnny Vinyl]

[Marcus Wright]

Meaning of life is that "you will never know what the meaning is".
If you know what it s, than there is no meaning to your life any more.

Originally Posted by maze

Really?

First thing is to have sense of humor. Obviously, you don't have one.

Second (and that's why I'm actually writing this post), "not worry about things you can't control" means just "be passive". And if everybody has listened to you and nobody has worried through the years about things he/she can't control the mankind would have been still "hanging on the trees". So yours is nothing more than an empty advise. Of course, as I see, giving such "great" meanings of live, does not prevent you of judging others.

Agree with you on both statements.

Originally Posted by linkgx1

Please do.

Which makes me think, we're nearly 7 billion people. Should nearly 10 billion by the middle of this century. The question is, would population control be moral? Especially because there tends to be a tie/ratio of wealth-to-birth rate.

What is morality?
Its accepted social conventions. In 10 years having many children can actually be considered immoral.
Besides, even if it is immoral, a law does not have to be moral to be a "rightfull" law

[iam1bearcat]

some friends and i have discussed this at great length and the following comment got me kicked out of my social issues class in high school and i almost "supposedly" got suspended for it, but i kind of believe all things happen for a reason.

now, it's not gonna be "A happens for B to work which makes C take place" it's much more complex than that and has nothing to do with religions or beliefs. we just attach religion and a belief system to it to try and comprehend it better. because, as humans, we always feel we need to dissect and understand everything when even when we do know something, we sometimes strongly dislike the logic we're given!

anyway...

so, what did i say that got me in trouble? natural disasters where many people die, is, i believe, a sign of some sort of "leveling out the playing field". imagine if there were no wars, no natural disasters, no anything where a large amount of people died and every single person that has perished in such a tragedy lived another 15-20 years - at LEAST! we would be in serious trouble.

now... back to the topic and the original question that has been asked...

one of my favorite songs ends with the following lyrics: "death is not a curse, it's the only thing that's keeping us alive" because as others i believe i have said, without death there is no motivation, no urge to push forward and no reason to try and accomplish as much as you can and really, no reason to do anything.

i honestly don't believe there is a meaning to life. like i said above, we as humans try and find a logic and rhyme and reason to every single thing we do. we NEED it. we thrive for it. we freak out over it. we can't just live and do whatever. we need a meaning and a reason for living. we can't possibly just live can we?!

we live. we die. we should do our best to enjoy ourselves while we can.

[THE_FORCE]

Originally Posted by maze

Well, although world's population continues to grow, actually the population growth rate steadily declines. So, around the middle of the century many prognoses predict that the overall population will also start to decrease after reaching a peak.

I thought that even though the population growth rate declines - the overall population will still be increasing ?

How would it actually decrease ?

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

so, what did i say that got me in trouble? natural disasters where many people die, is, i believe, a sign of some sort of "leveling out the playing field". imagine if there were no wars, no natural disasters, no anything where a large amount of people died and every single person that has perished in such a tragedy lived another 15-20 years - at LEAST! we would be in serious trouble.

I think it's strange you got into trouble for that. I remember reading in a textbook that natural disasters and disease are nature's way of controlling the population. So yeah, natural disasters are a way of "levelling the field."

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

i honestly don't believe there is a meaning to life. like i said above, we as humans try and find a logic and rhyme and reason to every single thing we do. we NEED it. we thrive for it. we freak out over it. we can't just live and do whatever. we need a meaning and a reason for living. we can't possibly just live can we?!

we live. we die. we should do our best to enjoy ourselves while we can.

Originally Posted by Marcus Wright

Meaning of life is that "you will never know what the meaning is".
If you know what it s, than there is no meaning to your life any more

Maybe we're supposed to find our own meanings to our own lives. Maybe finding the meaning is the meaning itself.

[linkgx1]

Originally Posted by maze

Really?

First thing is to have sense of humor. Obviously, you don't have one.

Second (and that's why I'm actually writing this post), "not worry about things you can't control" means just "be passive". And if everybody has listened to you and nobody has worried through the years about things he/she can't control the mankind would have been still "hanging on the trees". So yours is nothing more than an empty advise. Of course, as I see, giving such "great" meanings of live, does not prevent you of judging others.

I think it should just be the whole "life gives you lemons, make lemonade". Many people are passive, and that's why we don't see change in our lives. What do people do? Blame the goverment. There are things we can't control. I can't control a tornado, but that doesn't mean I won't hide in me basement.

[linkgx1]

Originally Posted by Marcus Wright

Meaning of life is that "you will never know what the meaning is".
If you know what it s, than there is no meaning to your life any more.



Agree with you on both statements.



What is morality?
Its accepted social conventions. In 10 years having many children can actually be considered immoral.
Besides, even if it is immoral, a law does not have to be moral to be a "rightfull" law

You can predict the future?

No, I'm talking about population control...killing humans. How do we not know that some "disease" or "virus" is created on purpose? That's what I'm talking about right now. If resources are strained because there are too many people in the pot, what is the cure?

[linkgx1]

Originally Posted by THE_FORCE

I thought that even though the population growth rate declines - the overall population will still be increasing ?

How would it actually decrease ?

Yeah, like the baby boom. That's like saying octomom goes from having 8 kids at a time to 4 kids a time. It still brings more people.

[maze]

Originally Posted by THE_FORCE

I thought that even though the population growth rate declines - the overall population will still be increasing ?

How would it actually decrease ?

Well, it is still increasing. But if the population growth rate declines (and continues to decline steadily) at one point it will go under 0 and it will become negative. This should be the moment when the overall population starts decreasing. Of course, we would be probably about 9-10 billions at that time.

[linkgx1]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

some friends and i have discussed this at great length and the following comment got me kicked out of my social issues class in high school and i almost "supposedly" got suspended for it, but i kind of believe all things happen for a reason.

now, it's not gonna be "A happens for B to work which makes C take place" it's much more complex than that and has nothing to do with religions or beliefs. we just attach religion and a belief system to it to try and comprehend it better. because, as humans, we always feel we need to dissect and understand everything when even when we do know something, we sometimes strongly dislike the logic we're given!

anyway...

so, what did i say that got me in trouble? natural disasters where many people die, is, i believe, a sign of some sort of "leveling out the playing field". imagine if there were no wars, no natural disasters, no anything where a large amount of people died and every single person that has perished in such a tragedy lived another 15-20 years - at LEAST! we would be in serious trouble.

now... back to the topic and the original question that has been asked...

one of my favorite songs ends with the following lyrics: "death is not a curse, it's the only thing that's keeping us alive" because as others i believe i have said, without death there is no motivation, no urge to push forward and no reason to try and accomplish as much as you can and really, no reason to do anything.

i honestly don't believe there is a meaning to life. like i said above, we as humans try and find a logic and rhyme and reason to every single thing we do. we NEED it. we thrive for it. we freak out over it. we can't just live and do whatever. we need a meaning and a reason for living. we can't possibly just live can we?!

we live. we die. we should do our best to enjoy ourselves while we can.

True blood takes this point and runs with it. In fact, in order to get rid of evil, there has to be death.

[linkgx1]

Originally Posted by maze

Well, it is still increasing. But if the population growth rate declines (and continues to decline steadily) at one point it will go under 0 and it will become negative. This should be the moment when the overall population starts decreasing. Of course, we would be probably about 9-10 billions at that time.

That's assuming the decreasing population doesn't have lots of sex.

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by maze

Really?

First thing is to have sense of humor. Obviously, you don't have one.

Second (and that's why I'm actually writing this post), "not worry about things you can't control" means just "be passive". And if everybody has listened to you and nobody has worried through the years about things he/she can't control the mankind would have been still "hanging on the trees". So yours is nothing more than an empty advice. Of course, as I see, giving such "great" meanings of live, does not prevent you of judging others.

Well since I have to spell it out for you I will.

How do you convey humor vs. seriousness on an internet post?? it’s not like there’s a sarcasm font so people can know exactly what kind of mood you were in when u wrote something.

My original post wasn’t about being passive. I only meant there are things you can’t control and shouldn’t dwell on. I’ll give u an example.

My wife lost her father and grandmother in a 2 week span last year. You can’t spend your time asking “why” and feel sorry for yourself. Everything happens for a reason and we’ll all find out the answers to those questions eventually.

As far as judging others…maybe put a @ the end of your post so people know you are joking!!

[master_8ball]

The meaning of life is to raise offspring that become "better" than ourselves, no different than any other creature. For those who can't have kids, there are other ways to leave a positive influence on society and the next generation.

I will refrain from talking much about "population control". Population in itself is not an issue it is the exploitation of the poor and the purposeful gap between have and have not's. To read people talk about how we need some kind of cleansing is kind of sickening actually.

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by master_8ball

The meaning of life is to raise offspring that become "better" than ourselves, no different than any other creature. For those who can't have kids, there are other ways to leave a positive influence on society and the next generation.

I will refrain from talking much about "population control". Population in itself is not an issue it is the exploitation of the poor and the purposeful gap between have and have not's. To read people talk about how we need some kind of cleansing is kind of sickening actually.

i have to agree w/you on all of this!! who's to judge who should and shouldn't be able to have kids??

[P@t_Mtl]

The meaning of life is.........life

[Sagacious Koreo]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

The meaning of life is.........life

Or you could even say...The meaning of life is to have life with meaning.

[linkgx1]

Originally Posted by sagacious koreo

or you could even say...the meaning of life is to have life with meaning.

but what does it mean?