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Old 07-26-2011, 06:43 AM   #21
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but it is funny when you put in a disc that you started to watch 6 months earlier and never finished and the machine resumes right where you left off as if no time has passed (really funny when it is at the end credits)
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Old 07-26-2011, 06:56 AM   #22
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It has very little to do with the hardware and more to do with the software. Because of the JAVA software incorporated into most discs, you will have to use the bookmarking feature included on the disc itself in order to continue from where you last left off.

Personally, I hate it when discs resume automatically. I think that it does a complete disservice to the artists and is the second greatest insult to their work by fractioning the viewing experience. If I can't finish watching a presentation in its entirety I will start it from the beginning again when I next get to sit down to enjoy something. So, I'm glad that there is no resume feature.
I wish I could do that. I rarely finish a movie in one sitting, unless it's at the theatre.
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My Toshiba BDX1100 does and sometimes my ps3 with some BD's
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my OPPO 93 does.
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:56 PM   #25
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Well... as an artist myself, I believe that I am very well entitled to my opinion. So, don't roll your eyes at me as if my opinion doesn't count for anything.

If you don't have time for a full film, you shouldn't start watching. People really need to learn some time management skills and slow down. I hear so much about people who rarely get any time for themselves at all. Many people I talk to actually consider their "running errands" time as their personal time! WTF is up with that? Has the media really been that successful in making us believe that we always need to be striving for 10 minutes ago? Why can't we make 2 hours available for ourselves these days to do something we enjoy uninterrupted? THIS is why CARS is such a crucial film for the next generation. Kids desperately need to learn the lesson that life needs to be enjoyed and should not be a race for inconsequential gains.
So which inconsequential gains are you talking about? Food? Clothing? Some people are on the go all day taking care of their children or working to provide food and clothing for themselves and their children. For some of us, 10 minutes is a luxury. And we don't want to waste any other few precious minutes searching for the moment where we left off and we don't want to watch the same 10 minutes over and over again. In your opinion, we shouldn't have blu ray players at all since we don't have the time to sit and watch a movie in it's entirety because we are too busy with our jobs so we can have that inconsequential food.
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The Oppo 103 resumes, but gives an option not to. Resuming I believe has to be enabled in the encoding of the disc. I think I read somewhere that Fox or Warners encode resue enable on the disc, but did not do so for MGM or New Line. I think it was one or the other (anyone???) This may explain why resuming works for some and not other discs.
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Old 05-21-2014, 08:18 PM   #27
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So which inconsequential gains are you talking about? Food? Clothing? Some people are on the go all day taking care of their children or working to provide food and clothing for themselves and their children. For some of us, 10 minutes is a luxury. And we don't want to waste any other few precious minutes searching for the moment where we left off and we don't want to watch the same 10 minutes over and over again. In your opinion, we shouldn't have blu ray players at all since we don't have the time to sit and watch a movie in it's entirety because we are too busy with our jobs so we can have that inconsequential food.
Think about what you just said. If you are spending all of your time putting food on the table and clothes on your back, and you are struggling to manage that, then yes... you shouldn't be spending money on Blu-rays or the hardware to use them. Your money is obviously needed elsewhere.

If you have no troubles putting food on the table and clothing on your back (your family as well of course) and still have no time to set aside 2 hours to watch a film in its entirety, you are either working too hard for inconsequential gains or you are spending quality time with the people you love. So, you either need to work a bit less to free up some personal time or you have family priorities that yield far greater rewards than a Blu-ray player can offer.

I was just trying to say that people in general don't take enough time for themselves these days. And this post isn't necessarily directed at you, but more towards a demographic of the populace.

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Old 05-22-2014, 02:08 PM   #28
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Yes, it's the software/Blu disk itself rather than the Blu player itself that remembers where you left off.

On my Samsung Blu player, when it comes to playing a Blu disk after I stop it in the middle of a film/TV show, it varies: typically it will start at the beginning and won't remember. Sometimes, it will give you the option of starting up where you left off. And, sometimes, it will just start up where it left off without asking you. It all depends on the individual Blu disk.

Also, this post brings up the only issue I have with Blus & my Blu player (which isn't a defect), i.e. the lengthy time it takes after you load a disk in to the time it starts playing - it seems like it takes forever sometimes....conversely, a regular DVD will play almost instantly. However, I can somewhat overlook this since the PQ & sound on Blu's are typically far superior....

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Old 05-23-2014, 04:07 PM   #29
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I have a Samsung Player and when I resume play from a stop/power off it askes me if I want to resume playing or start from beginning.
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:54 PM   #30
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Personally, I hate it when discs resume automatically. I think that it does a complete disservice to the artists and is the second greatest insult to their work by fractioning the viewing experience. If I can't finish watching a presentation in its entirety I will start it from the beginning again when I next get to sit down to enjoy something. So, I'm glad that there is no resume feature.
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Well... as an artist myself, I believe that I am very well entitled to my opinion. So, don't roll your eyes at me as if my opinion doesn't count for anything.
Oh, pull your head out of your ass. Your opinion is no more important than anyone else's.

Watching movies in OAR and the like is one thing, but sometimes people will be interrupted while watching a movie... not everyone has the most ideal home viewing set up, etc. Things happen.

I agree with artistic rights up to a point, but they aren't this ultimate, infallible, end all / be all thing that everyone in the world should bow down and overly prioritize to as some people take them to be.

The way I see it, there is a line, and on one side of it is reasonable artistic rights and expectations, and on the other side is just sheering arrogance, snobbery, and bullheadedness over how everyone else should experience someone else's "precious" art.

"Oh no! You paused the movie! NEVER pause a move!"

"Oh no! Your TV isn't calibrated exactly as the director would prefer it to be (which differs for this particular movie than for most others)."

"Oh no! You aren't wearing a red shirt!.... the filmmaker intended for people to only view this movie while wearing red shirts, you know! How DARE you insult the filmmaker by not wearing a red shirt while watching this movie? What the frigging hell is wrong with you?!"

"Wait, did you stand on your head while drinking a glass of water and saying the alphabet backwards immediately before watching that movie?! No?!!! But that is how the filmmaker intended it to be watched! What do you mean you did it last time you watched it? The filmmaker wants it done EVERY time! And last time, did you actually do it immediately prior to the movie? It was 15 MINUTES before hand?!!!! What the hell? You either should have done it again just before watching it or not bothered at all. I don't care if you had to go to the bathroom inbetween, you have insulted Mr. Spielfellow in ways that you can't even imagine! He would curse your name if he knew what you did!!!! "

Give me a break!



You know, just out of sheer spite, I'm going to search your posts here on blu-ray.com and find out what some of your favorite movies are. Then I'm going to pick one of them out, and make it a point to watch it in 10 minute increments over the course of several days.
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:27 PM   #31
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Oh, pull your head out of your ass. Your opinion is no more important than anyone else's.

Watching movies in OAR and the like is one thing, but sometimes people will be interrupted while watching a movie... not everyone has the most ideal home viewing set up, etc. Things happen.

I agree with artistic rights up to a point, but they aren't this ultimate, infallible, end all / be all thing that everyone in the world should bow down and overly prioritize to as some people take them to be.

The way I see it, there is a line, and on one side of it is reasonable artistic rights and expectations, and on the other side is just sheering arrogance, snobbery, and bullheadedness over how everyone else should experience someone else's "precious" art.

"Oh no! You paused the movie! NEVER pause a move!"

"Oh no! Your TV isn't calibrated exactly as the director would prefer it to be (which differs for this particular movie than for most others)."

"Oh no! You aren't wearing a red shirt!.... the filmmaker intended for people to only view this movie while wearing red shirts, you know! How DARE you insult the filmmaker by not wearing a red shirt while watching this movie? What the frigging hell is wrong with you?!"

"Wait, did you stand on your head while drinking a glass of water and saying the alphabet backwards immediately before watching that movie?! No?!!! But that is how the filmmaker intended it to be watched! What do you mean you did it last time you watched it? The filmmaker wants it done EVERY time! And last time, did you actually do it immediately prior to the movie? It was 15 MINUTES before hand?!!!! What the hell? You either should have done it again just before watching it or not bothered at all. I don't care if you had to go to the bathroom inbetween, you have insulted Mr. Spielfellow in ways that you can't even imagine! He would curse your name if he knew what you did!!!! "

Give me a break!



You know, just out of sheer spite, I'm going to search your posts here on blu-ray.com and find out what some of your favorite movies are. Then I'm going to pick one of them out, and make it a point to watch it in 10 minute increments over the course of several days.


I was just saying that I was entitled to my opinion and was sharing that opinion. Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?
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I was just saying that I was entitled to my opinion and was sharing that opinion. Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?
It was Lucky the Leprechaun. He was angry that I was having Corn Flakes and not Lucky Charms, so he pissed all over them!
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:15 PM   #33
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It was Lucky the Leprechaun. He was angry that I was having Corn Flakes and not Lucky Charms, so he pissed all over them!
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:57 PM   #34
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Ummm... yes, it IS nice to have options. But, as it is now, if there is resume feature capability, it forces me to resume. You put the disc in, load it up, and BAM! You go straight into the middle of the film without any warning.

Now, the ideal thing, and I've seen it on maybe 2 discs, is to have the software ASK YOU if you'd like to resume or restart. THAT would be the suitable option for me. Then everyone has the exact same amount of work to do in order to meet their needs on equal footing.
I don't understand why resume is not a standard feature for any disc played...as OP already stated, many DVD players just do this...blu-ray is supposed to be better, but, alas, it is not in this respect.

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It has very little to do with the hardware and more to do with the software. Because of the JAVA software incorporated into most discs, you will have to use the bookmarking feature included on the disc itself in order to continue from where you last left off.

Personally, I hate it when discs resume automatically. I think that it does a complete disservice to the artists and is the second greatest insult to their work by fractioning the viewing experience. If I can't finish watching a presentation in its entirety I will start it from the beginning again when I next get to sit down to enjoy something. So, I'm glad that there is no resume feature.
My Panasonic DMP-BDT230 will only resume with some discs (very few), I have not tried bookmarking, but I just tried a disc that does not resume, and bookmarking is not available either.

I think the disservice is to the consumer!! Why should we have to go through all the d**n crap at the beginning of the disc and wait for the menu, just to continue where we left off? That's B.S.!! Or, if we watch it a second time, we should not have to sit and wait for that crap! Most of the discs that don't resume have much to go through to get to the d**n menu! We should not be locked out of hitting the menu button to skip all that crap if we've gone through it once!!! Most discs won't allow you to skip some sections, some force you to watch or skip through the individual previews and ads to get to the menu...d**mit, I bought the disc already, I don't need this. In fact, where can we officially complain about this to the point they make a change? (Yes, I am serious.)

The studios won on making blu-rays less copy-able, now they must give us something back in return, no more lock-outs if we want to jump right to the menu, and resume function on all discs (or players, wherever it needs to be). It won't just happen if we don't do something about it.

Going from video tape to DVDs, resume made sense...if you stop a tape, it doesn't lose it's place, it stops where you last watched it. So, most DVD players have a resume function. Somewhere they thought they could get away with not giving us this function w/blu-rays.
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This is my only negative about the BD format. I loved that my ONKYO dvd player would remember the last 5 or so DVDs and be able to instant resume from where I was.
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I think it's more annoying having the film load at the credits everytime I put a disc in that resumes. I have no issues with skipping/waiting for the pre-menu stuff.
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I don't understand why resume is not a standard feature for any disc played...as OP already stated, many DVD players just do this...blu-ray is supposed to be better, but, alas, it is not in this respect.



My Panasonic DMP-BDT230 will only resume with some discs (very few), I have not tried bookmarking, but I just tried a disc that does not resume, and bookmarking is not available either.

I think the disservice is to the consumer!! Why should we have to go through all the d**n crap at the beginning of the disc and wait for the menu, just to continue where we left off? That's B.S.!! Or, if we watch it a second time, we should not have to sit and wait for that crap! Most of the discs that don't resume have much to go through to get to the d**n menu! We should not be locked out of hitting the menu button to skip all that crap if we've gone through it once!!! Most discs won't allow you to skip some sections, some force you to watch or skip through the individual previews and ads to get to the menu...d**mit, I bought the disc already, I don't need this. In fact, where can we officially complain about this to the point they make a change? (Yes, I am serious.)

The studios won on making blu-rays less copy-able, now they must give us something back in return, no more lock-outs if we want to jump right to the menu, and resume function on all discs (or players, wherever it needs to be). It won't just happen if we don't do something about it.

Going from video tape to DVDs, resume made sense...if you stop a tape, it doesn't lose it's place, it stops where you last watched it. So, most DVD players have a resume function. Somewhere they thought they could get away with not giving us this function w/blu-rays.
blu-rays are in no way less copyable. it's about as easy to rip a blu-ray as it is to rip a DVD.
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I noticed that the PS3 does but only for a while. It is weird as it seems I will throw in a disc I haven't watched for a while and it will jump right into it but with others it starts right from the beginning. But I think it depends on the studio that produces it as I know with some discs, everytime I start it I am starting fresh. Wouldn't be so bad except i really don't care to read those FBI warnings and such as I have read them for 30 years now.
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I noticed that the PS3 does but only for a while. It is weird as it seems I will throw in a disc I haven't watched for a while and it will jump right into it but with others it starts right from the beginning. But I think it depends on the studio that produces it as I know with some discs, everytime I start it I am starting fresh. Wouldn't be so bad except i really don't care to read those FBI warnings and such as I have read them for 30 years now.
It's not the player, it's the software. It depends on the disc authoring whether a disc will resume or not.
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It's not the player, it's the software. It depends on the disc authoring whether a disc will resume or not.
Exactly.

I have some BDs with beautiful and flawless resume functions, but many others are infuriating if you watch movies in chunks. Criterion respects its customers in this way while a lot of the large mega-marketing studios typically don't
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