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Manco · 09-28-2007, 07:55 PM

Anyone having dns lookup issues should remove these manual IP entries made in their hosts file tomorrow after the new ip's propagate to global dns servers. Although /flushdns works its best to let DNS do its job and not hardwire your hosts file.

msetten · 09-28-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sj001

Good point, but the hosts file can be cleared out... and flushing the DNS cache won't take care of the issue if it is cached on the corporate DNS server and/or ISP's DNS server, until their cache refreshes.

Sure, but in some cases (like in my case), your ISP/corporate DSN may already have the new IP address, but your own computer still has the old address. And since there is a valid webpage on the old address (the one that informs you about the move), your own computer still thinks everything is okay. The flush just makes sure you own computer will get all new addresses.

sj001 · 09-28-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by msetten

Sure, but in some cases (like in my case), your ISP/corporate DSN may already have the new IP address, but your own computer still has the old address. And since there is a valid webpage on the old address (the one that informs you about the move), your own computer still thinks everything is okay. The flush just makes sure you own computer will get all new addresses.

Yup, or just use the classic method after clearing the hosts file, reboot!

Marwin · 09-28-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CptGreedle

I still don't see the logo at the top of the pages in the forums.. but most the other issues I've seen/heard of are resolved. Thanks for the quick fixes!

This is most likely a temporary problem that will go away as soon as you start getting both the forums and site to load the new version (the forum is working but not the regular site). The logo is stored on www.blu-ray.com, so if you still get the old version of www.blu-ray.com with the message about the server move then the logo won't work (we removed the file from the old host).

Marwin · 09-28-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CptGreedle

I have just noticed that a number of posts I made while the transfer was still going on (the home page was down) have disappeared. They used to be there but now they are not with no explanation.
Looks like they were never there but I know they were. Strange bug, must be a limited time thing since most of the posts seem to be untouched.

That shouldn't have been possible (making new posts during the downtime), in that case we must have made a mistake. When we took the site/forum offline we also turned the forum off so it shouldn't have been possible to make new posts. I'm going to have to investigate some more.

CptGreedle · 09-28-2007, 08:25 PM

Well the home page was down, but the forums would still work... strangely enough. Not many people on, maybe about a dozen or so.. but none of the posts stayed so I figured it was a downtime thing.
It seems to have happened on a number of my posts from then.. no worries though, nothing as important as the infamous SA0CD's post.

Manco · 09-28-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marwin

That shouldn't have been possible (making new posts during the downtime), in that case we must have made a mistake. When we took the site/forum offline we also turned the forum off so it shouldn't have been possible to make new posts. I'm going to have to investigate some more.

Your load balancer probably still had active IP connections servicing valid HTTP requests even though your externally facing entry point was offiline for new requests.

Marwin · 09-28-2007, 08:37 PM

I just checked it out by forcing the IP to the old forum IP, seems the forums were indeed not taken down properly

I know we had the vBulletin options page open and prepared to shut down the old forum as one of the first things we did, but somehow in the chaos of moving we never actually did shut it down (only the regular site). The posts still exist on the old server, but I just don't see how we can merge them with the new server easily (duplicate IDs in the database and such will cause problems). I've shut down the old forums now so at least there will be no more posts made there. We'll see if we can recover the posts later.

Marwin · 09-28-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Manco

Your load balancer probably still had active IP connections servicing valid HTTP requests even though your externally facing entry point was offiline for new requests.

It's as simple as the old forum not being fully shut down during the time the server was supposed to be offline/deactivated and waiting for the new IP address to propagate so members would get that URL of the new forum. Just a really stupid mistake

calgarymarc · 09-28-2007, 08:41 PM

Any help for Vista Users??? I've tried everything so far in this thread but i'm still not able to view the 'Home' & 'News' pages (haven't tried any of the other links yet...)

Also, the Blu-ray.com banner is missing from the top of the page...
Not sure what to do now...

I tried adding the below text into the 'hosts' file, but it won't let me save it:

69.90.124.146 blu-ray.com
69.90.124.146 www.blu-ray.com
69.90.124.147 forum.blu-ray.com

Vista is being retarded - LOL!

Teazle · 09-28-2007, 08:41 PM

At risk of saying something blindingly stupid in this thread, after the switch I restarted my computer and everything worked fine again.

Manco · 09-28-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by calgarymarc

Any help for Vista Users??? I've tried everything so far in this thread but i'm still not able to view the 'Home' & 'News' pages (haven't tried any of the other links yet...)

Also, the Blu-ray.com banner is missing from the top of the page...
Not sure what to do now...

Corporate LAN or home?

calgarymarc · 09-28-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Manco

Corporate LAN or home?

Home

Marwin · 09-28-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Teazle

At risk of saying something blindingly stupid in this thread, after the switch I restarted my computer and everything worked fine again.

That might work in some cases. However, many name servers cache (save) the IP address so they don't have to make a new lookup for every request and that forces you to wait until the data is refreshed in the name server cache with the new IP (which can take up to 24 hours if you're unlucky).

Marwin · 09-28-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by calgarymarc

Home

Either you wait for the new IP to propagate to your name servers or you use the "hosts"-file trick to force your Windows to resolve www.blu-ray.com to the new IP address. I'm not sure about the instructions for Vista, you could try searching for "vista" and "hosts" in Google.

Marwin · 09-28-2007, 08:55 PM

Looks like you need administrator privileges to edit the file in Vista:
http://geekswithblogs.net/thibbard/a...leInVista.aspx

Manco · 09-28-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by calgarymarc

Home

...and you have cleared EVERYTHING from IE7 plus made the hosts file changes?

IE->Tools->Internet Options->"Delete" button->"Delete All" Button

Close browser and reopen.

calgarymarc · 09-28-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marwin

Either you wait for the new IP to propagate to your name servers or you use the "hosts"-file trick to force your Windows to resolve www.blu-ray.com to the new IP address. I'm not sure about the instructions for Vista, you could try searching for "vista" and "hosts" in Google.

Marwin - YOU ARE A GENIOUS! - LOL

I searched 'Vista Hosts' and found the following instructions for updating the necessary file.

Posted below for other Vista users:

Changing your hosts file in Vista

By default, if you try to modify your hosts file in Vista, it will not let you save it. It tells you that you don't have permission. To successfully modify the hosts file, run notepad.exe as an administrator and open the file.

1) Browse to Start -> All Programs -> Accessories
2) Right click "Notepad" and select "Run as administrator"
3) Click "Continue" on the UAC prompt
4) Click File -> Open
5) Browse to "C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc"
6) Change the file filter drop down box from "Text Documents (*.txt)" to "All Files (*.*)"
7) Select "hosts" and click "Open"
8) Make the needed changes and close Notepad. Save when prompted.

Marwin · 09-28-2007, 09:01 PM

The reason we didn't put more precise instructions on the old server page is because we don't want those that have no idea what they're doing to mess up their hosts file

calgarymarc · 09-28-2007, 09:02 PM

I get it. Soooo after all this, it still doesn't work. I updated the host files on Vista, but no luck with the main page nor the news page...

09-28-2007, 08:41 PM	#30
calgarymarc Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Canada 4K collection:173 Blu-ray collection:173	Any help for Vista Users??? I've tried everything so far in this thread but i'm still not able to view the 'Home' & 'News' pages (haven't tried any of the other links yet...) Also, the Blu-ray.com banner is missing from the top of the page... Not sure what to do now... I tried adding the below text into the 'hosts' file, but it won't let me save it: 69.90.124.146 blu-ray.com 69.90.124.146 www.blu-ray.com 69.90.124.147 forum.blu-ray.com Vista is being retarded - LOL! Last edited by calgarymarc; 09-28-2007 at 08:52 PM.

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09-28-2007, 07:55 PM	#21
Manco Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Tucumcari	Anyone having dns lookup issues should remove these manual IP entries made in their hosts file tomorrow after the new ip's propagate to global dns servers. Although /flushdns works its best to let DNS do its job and not hardwire your hosts file.

09-28-2007, 08:25 PM	#26
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Well the home page was down, but the forums would still work... strangely enough. Not many people on, maybe about a dozen or so.. but none of the posts stayed so I figured it was a downtime thing. It seems to have happened on a number of my posts from then.. no worries though, nothing as important as the infamous SA0CD's post.

09-28-2007, 08:37 PM	#28
Marwin Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Blu-ray collection:10 DVD collection:5 iTunes collection:1	I just checked it out by forcing the IP to the old forum IP, seems the forums were indeed not taken down properly I know we had the vBulletin options page open and prepared to shut down the old forum as one of the first things we did, but somehow in the chaos of moving we never actually did shut it down (only the regular site). The posts still exist on the old server, but I just don't see how we can merge them with the new server easily (duplicate IDs in the database and such will cause problems). I've shut down the old forums now so at least there will be no more posts made there. We'll see if we can recover the posts later.

09-28-2007, 08:41 PM	#31
Teazle Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray reviews:1	At risk of saying something blindingly stupid in this thread, after the switch I restarted my computer and everything worked fine again.

09-28-2007, 08:55 PM	#36
Marwin Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Blu-ray collection:10 DVD collection:5 iTunes collection:1	Looks like you need administrator privileges to edit the file in Vista: http://geekswithblogs.net/thibbard/a...leInVista.aspx

09-28-2007, 09:01 PM	#39
Marwin Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Blu-ray collection:10 DVD collection:5 iTunes collection:1	The reason we didn't put more precise instructions on the old server page is because we don't want those that have no idea what they're doing to mess up their hosts file

09-28-2007, 09:02 PM	#40
calgarymarc Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Canada 4K collection:173 Blu-ray collection:173	I get it. Soooo after all this, it still doesn't work. I updated the host files on Vista, but no luck with the main page nor the news page...

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