Ra.One - Blu-ray Screenshots (EROS)

[keelhaul_isaiah]

i know this is hardly a significant issue, but same image on the front and back? really?

[Tecnogamer]

Okay I need help with this 1, I tried this on my PS3 which is connected to my 5.1 DTS theater and it does have deep colors and I did watch like 100s of blus on it they seemed to be fine but this 1 is like too much brightness in some scenes and also too much blueness add which is killing the picture.. anyone wants to help or guide who has played this on PS3 as well?

[anibap]

Originally Posted by Tecnogamer

Okay I need help with this 1, I tried this on my PS3 which is connected to my 5.1 DTS theater and it does have deep colors and I did watch like 100s of blus on it they seemed to be fine but this 1 is like too much brightness in some scenes and also too much blueness add which is killing the picture.. anyone wants to help or guide who has played this on PS3 as well?

Deep colour setting won't help since it is an extended colour space (a wider gamut and higher bit depth >10 bit and up to 24/30 bit colour) which hardly matters w.r.t what we are talking here. There is no content available for home video that can use deep colour. If you follow my earlier post, you will be able to make it look much better. However, if the BD exhibits a mix of incorrect and correct black level, then there is nothing one can do with this BD. The trick I mentioned will make whitewashed scenes look good but will make the other properly encoded scenes darker introducing black crush.

It seems there was a problem in the DI process to begin with and this is more concerning to me than just this one BD.

IIRC, in PS3 RGB full is mentioned as 'enhanced RGB' and RGB Video as 'Standard RGB' . You need to set PS3 to enhanced or full (0-255) and set your TV/Projector to RGB Video or Standard or Limited which is RGB (16-235).

[srkbeno.1]

Originally Posted by keelhaul_isaiah

i know this is hardly a significant issue, but same image on the front and back? really?

the slip cover has a good front and back

[toddly6666]

Originally Posted by ravenus

Another must-have classic of Indian cinema, Toddly?

okay, I folded. I bought it out of curiousity! I want to see why most Indian critics give it poor reviews and Western critics give it positive reviews (per rottentomatoes.com). Some people are saying there is a good story...and others are saying it's an awful story. So it's too controversial now for me to ignore!

Plus, all this talk of Matrixy and Tron-like action scenes started to tempt me.

[idlebrain]

Sometimes movies which had bad run at cinemas, end up liking them when I watch at home...probably due to low expectations hearing all the bad things about the movie....but in this case I was very disappointed with the movie even with pretty low expectations. As of Blu ray, I don't know how much improvement will be in PQ following anibap's suggestion, but the quality as it is is very disappointing.

Originally Posted by toddly6666

Plus, all this talk of Matrixy and Tron-like action scenes started to tempt me.

That's the height of the exaggeration....

[anibap]

I am going to borrow the BDs of Ra. One and Ladies vs Ricky Bahl. It will be Bolly-Sci-fi and Bolly-Con time this weekend

[technofreak]

Originally Posted by anibap

I am going to borrow the BDs of Ra. One and Ladies vs Ricky Bahl. It will be Bolly-Sci-fi and Bolly-Con time this weekend

ladies vs ricky bahl is less interesting post interval as how the girls plot a con.i skipped scenes post interval.
May be you dont know but its inspired from 1970's tamil movie "NAAN AVAN ILLAI" directed by K.balachander.

[anibap]

Originally Posted by technofreak

ladies vs ricky bahl is less interesting post interval as how the girls plot a con.i skipped scenes post interval.
May be you dont know but its inspired from 1970's tamil movie "NAAN AVAN ILLAI" directed by K.balachander.

I am not aware that it is a remake. How was the original tamil movie?

[ravenus]

^Was probably better because Balachander was a decent film-maker with a great ear for dialog. Well, well an IMDB survey reveals that the film was remade in Hindi as Woh main nahin ('74), and remade again in Tamil in 2007 under the original title.

[technofreak]

Originally Posted by anibap

I am not aware that it is a remake. How was the original tamil movie?

to be honest even i havent seen the original film but the remake.
K.B's films were creating social awareness during that period. He is the one who introduced rajini to the industry in "Aval oru thodarkadhai" again remade in hindi. Then ofcourse the well known kamal starrer "Ek duje ke liye"

[jsmn1000]

Really disappointed with both PQ & AQ ESP AQ it's pathetic & sucks big time. Wish the quality of Indian Blu rays improve it's high time, with few exceptions most BD quality are pathetic :-(

[sanjay0864]

I too had the displeasure of watching this Blu-ray a few days ago. The only reason I even watched it, was that I had promised my son I would watch it with him. Anyhow, my take on the movie and the blu-ray:

Movie: 2.25 out of 5.0
Video: 2.75 out of 5.0
Audio: 3.5 out of 5.0 (Rather disappointing for the category of movie)

Eros live up to their Zeros name. All in all, I would suggest, that unless one is already a huge fan of Shahrukh and or for some inexplicable reason really loves this movie, AVOID.

[DaemonAngel]

Ha! Must be the weekend and my son's addiction to video games, I had the misfortune of watching two thirds [fell asleep - fortunately] of this atrocious film and equally atrocious bluray!

I feel Sanajy is being very generous with the ratings! but close enough to what I would give for putting me to sleep soon after intermisison!

The whole first half looked like I was watching the film through a crud filled shower screen - suddenly got somewhat clearer - as if someone swiped the screen - in 2nd half just in time to lull me to much needed sleep!

[Andrew-Kenneth]

Originally Posted by DaemonAngel

The whole first half looked like I was watching the film through a crud filled shower screen - suddenly got somewhat clearer - as if someone swiped the screen - in 2nd half just in time to lull me to much needed sleep!

A lot of Indian blu-ray discs don't look very good out-of-the-box and Ra.One is no exception.

However, after increasing contrast and colour levels and reducing brightness levels on my tv, the movie looked just fine.

[DaemonAngel]

Originally Posted by Andrew-Kenneth

A lot of Indian blu-ray discs don't look very good out-of-the-box and Ra.One is no exception.

However, after increasing contrast and colour levels and reducing brightness levels on my tv, the movie looked just fine.

Hmmm......I do watch a *lot* of Indian blurays and inspite of the fact that they are not among the best, this one belongs to the bottom drawer without a doubt! But if you are saying this is on par with any other, then I must disagree!

I do however commend your perseverance calibrating your setup just to watch this master piece. Bravo!

[anibap]

Movie
Saw Ra. One yesterday.I can't even say what Jesus Christ said when he was crucified since the pain of watching Ra.One was greater than what Jesus might have endured.
A 5 min plot stretched to 150 min, cheap, distasteful and at times vulgar humour (the producers claimed this as a family oriented movie for kids ?? well, with SRK doing quite a few of this kind of cheap and vulgar acts in several award shows just proves the point how sensible he is) , ridiculous out of context songs, terrible acting by the lead stars and the list can go on but I will stop here.

Fans might not have noticed but did others notice that some of the mannerisms of G.One is similar to SRK's My Name is Khan? Super-heroes can have autism as well I found it pretty annoying and disgusting and even the portrayal of Shekhar shows how low SRK has gone down in his acting these days.

I must say that although some of the VFX stuff was choppy at times, in general I liked quite a few to be creative enough considering the Indian context. Unfortunately, without the backing of a good script, those sequences failed to make an impact and get the true credit. Good job by the technicians - wish they had a better director and a story to showcase their talent.

PQ
The transfer is one of the most inconsistent in terms of black level and colours and no tricks on RGB conversion worked since the black level issue is too random for a particular setting. Some scenes have good detail and colour but most appeared dull and with colour shifts. Overall, the issues are random and makes it difficult to watch through the movie. DNRed throughout (default setting for most Bollywood BDs I guess) but not as bad as some other BDs.

I am quite concerned with the PQ issues this BD has - not for this movie but for many other future BDs that would get released by Eros. They seem to have the worst track record in terms of consistency and quality.

AQ
This should have received a reference grade audio but in the end it is quite average, flat and lacks dynamism. Rears were active in many sequences which many people might like but it is not done in a creative way.

Summary
One of the worst films I have seen in my life. This film has achieved one thing for sure - it can be used as a case study in film-making in the context of - 1001 ways of making a terrible film. I only hope SRK will never venture into direction. Otherwise, we will see several other movies like this since he must have ghost directed this absolute crap with his cheap thrills, jokes and what he believes would sell like hot cake.

Rating
Movie : 1.5 out of 5
PQ: 2 out of 5
AQ: 3 out of 5

[Anurag1700]

Wow Ani !! i cant tell u how happy i am today reading ur reaction of the film. for all this time i was thinking i must be the only person hating the film to such a degree. But u have surpassed that level now... when u spoke about crucification, u actually stole my words. I feel glad that for the first time ever, u and i are in complete agreement on an SRK film

Originally Posted by anibap

Movie
Fans might not have noticed but did others notice that some of the mannerisms of G.One is similar to SRK's My Name is Khan? Super-heroes can have autism as well I found it pretty annoying and disgusting and even the portrayal of Shekhar shows how low SRK has gone down in his acting these days.

well... Let me tell u that I liked MNIK a lot and loved srk's performance in MNIK and still, i did notice very obviously that G.one acted like the same autistic... and i really wonder what was on srk's mind attempting that? from what i cud conclude, its basically a self-digged trap of filmmakers because if the objective was to show that he does not have emotions or feelings to show on face, ...to me atleast its never clear if its even a machine in the first place? or its a pixel image because its from a game? or its the wax statue electrified? i mean seriously - pathetic character definition and even pathetic portrayals of expressions like these from a superstar actor only makes Rajni's robo performance look oscar winning in comparison. There have been films in which srk has acted really bad like duplicate, ram jaane etc to name a few but those films one never expects any good acting ... it is only when they over or say hyper-publicise the movie the way ra.one was, the issue of bad acting gets further multiplied. Hands down it is the SRK's career's worst acting ever for me.

PS: btw, i have just one question for you ani- i know u hated don2 as well...but now that u have watched both, do u agree that don2 was a relatively better srk film of 2011?

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by anibap

cheap, distasteful and at times vulgar humour (the producers claimed this as a family oriented movie for kids ?? well, with SRK doing quite a few of this kind of cheap and vulgar acts in several award shows just proves the point how sensible he is)

The cheap, vulgar and full of sexual innuendo brand of comedy, has now become a trademark of Shahrukh and the Karan Johar groupies. The sad part is that this crass, brand of comedy is actually considered as family friendly by Shahrukh and gang. Even worse, the average Indian today is more than happy watching this crap with their families, including their children. According to Shahrukh, his inspiration to produce Ra.One was his children. One can only imagine, the values that his children are being raised with, if this his idea of a family movie. By the way, this crass and vulgar display is not limited to just Shahrukh movies. In fact, every single bollywood award show compered by Shahrukh, it does seem like he does pretty much all of them, is replete with these same lewd and vulgar jokes. It is really sad that no one in the media has highlighted this fact and spoken up against this erosion of family values that is being imposed upon Indian homes. Courtesy idiots such as Shahrukh, Sajid Khan, Karan Johar etc., there is a whole generation that is being brought up, believing that lewd, crude and vulgar is acceptable behavior within the family.

[anibap]

Originally Posted by Anurag1700

I feel glad that for the first time ever, u and i are in complete agreement on an SRK film

I'd like to agree with you on other movies of SRK as well but as of now the number of SRK films I have liked is so limited (my problem I guess ) SRK should focus on charater driven roles to regain his position as a good actor in my books at least.

Originally Posted by Anurag1700

well... Let me tell u that I liked MNIK a lot and loved srk's performance in MNIK and still, i did notice very obviously that G.one acted like the same autistic...

PS: btw, i have just one question for you ani- i know u hated don2 as well...but now that u have watched both, do u agree that don2 was a relatively better srk film of 2011?

So, you noticed as well. Everyone in our family was quite surprised to this resemblance.

Yes, I agree that Don2 was a better movie than Ra.One as it s rather difficult to perfect the imperfections of Ra.One.

Originally Posted by sanjay0864

The cheap, vulgar and full of sexual innuendo brand of comedy, has now become a trademark of Shahrukh and the Karan Johar groupies. The sad part is that this crass, brand of comedy is actually considered as family friendly by Shahrukh and gang. Even worse, the average Indian today is more than happy watching this crap with their families, including their children. According to Shahrukh, his inspiration to produce Ra.One was his children. One can only imagine, the values that his children are being raised with, if this his idea of a family movie. By the way, this crass and vulgar display is not limited to just Shahrukh movies. In fact, every single bollywood award show compered by Shahrukh, it does seem like he does pretty much all of them, is replete with these same lewd and vulgar jokes. It is really sad that no one in the media has highlighted this fact and spoken up against this erosion of family values that is being imposed upon Indian homes. Courtesy idiots such as Shahrukh, Sajid Khan, Karan Johar etc., there is a whole generation that is being brought up, believing that lewd, crude and vulgar is acceptable behavior within the family.

Sanjay, you have summed it up very well and as you rightly said - what should be rejected, discouraged and rooted out of our social and family values is alarmingly becoming an accepted component in our society with celebrities like SRK and KJO (commenting about Saajid Khan would make me go back to the evolution of ape to humans so I'll spare that part) indulging in these practice more than ever as cool and happening without understanding the ill effects. Being popular, accepted and influential, mega stars like SRK should should use their position responsively at least he should learn a few things from his peers and seniors who have attained a similar status. The other explanation could be he is either desperate to create an image that is different from the rest without understanding what it really means or he is too insecure and out trying out cheap acts to float his bloated publicity and ego of being the supreme kind.

'Pity' is all I can say for celebrities who are doing this with pride and for people who enjoy these cheap acts in the name of entertainment.