Prometheus

[ChrisDilke]

Will be passing on this, I didn't like it at all.

[DJJez]

Originally Posted by Mowat2012

Shame the film was dreadful. I would use a swear word but don't know about the rules on here

i disagree. loved it

[Billz]

If you just pretend that it isn't part of the Alien franchise (which really, it isn't), then it's actually not a bad flick at all.

[Pork Chop Express]

Originally Posted by Mowat2012

Shame the film was dreadful. I would use a swear word but don't know about the rules on here

****, ****, Shit, Piss, Bollocks, Twat
Hold on,let's see if any work.

[Pork Chop Express]

Oh f*ck,c*nt didn't work.

[Pork Chop Express]

Oooh,i forgot wank.

[Pork Chop Express]

Yay!

[sukraj]

Originally Posted by Pork Chop Express

Oooh,i forgot wank.

no wank in forums.

[blu_sharpy]

Originally Posted by sukraj

no wank in forums.

Yeah, things can get messy if you start doing that

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by malcy30

It's because most studios in the UK still use 6 month windows theatrical to retail which is what this gap is. In the US they are more enlightened and for many films the window is now only 4 months.

That's not true. Almost all of our films are released now within four months of release and this has been the norm for years. There are exceptions such as this one, Avengers and Hunger Games, but with the latter two it's the same as the US (and it's to avoid the summer season where the audiences are more cinema orientated).

This one's probably been moved back to avoid the busy September/October crush we're having.

[Blu Lemmy]

Originally Posted by Mowat2012

Shame the film was dreadful. I would use a swear word but don't know about the rules on here

Your insight is amazing, thanks for sharing

[alien2010]

Saw this twice at the cinema; first saw it in IMAX 3D and I hated it. I then saw it in 2D and I loved it. Literally only 15% of cinemas in the U.K. had this film in 2D and whilst Fox and co. maybe pushing the fact that 3D is the future (haha, the future of filmmaking or the future excuse of charging more money for tickets) Prometheus finally proved that 3D is a useless tool that should be buried in oblivion. In 2D the film was clearer, brighter and the inconvenience of balancing a pair of specs on your nose did not divert your attention from the actual film.

Now Fox has done it again by delivering the Blu-ray two months later than in the U.S. I know here in the U.K. we have given Rupert Murdoch a hard time (and deservedly so) but that doesn't mean we have to be punished by delaying the blu-ray release date by two months.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by alien2010

Literally only 15% of cinemas in the U.K. had this film in 2D

That figure isn't true, literally or figuratively. Most cinemas had screenings of both.

[alien2010]

When it came to pre-booking the tickets, it only advertised 3D screenings. Also the times the cinemas posted for 2D screenings were terrible, most of the showings were during weekdays in the afternoon or late night showings. When I saw it in 2D, I saw it on a late Friday night showing two weeks back.

Go on the Odeon website and try to book some tickets for The Amazing Spider-Man in 2D. Only ONE Odeon Cinema is showing it. The 3D showings are showing pretty much everywhere and for the first few showings have pretty much sold out.

[Bobthesub]

2 month wait? I dont mind waiting for the inevitable UK steelbook....

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by alien2010

When it came to pre-booking the tickets, it only advertised 3D screenings. Also the times the cinemas posted for 2D screenings were terrible, most of the showings were during weekdays in the afternoon or late night showings. When I saw it in 2D, I saw it on a late Friday night showing two weeks back.

I don't doubt that they pushed the 3D screenings with the pre-bookings, it makes sense as Scott filmed it in 3D and that's ideally how he intended it to be seen (EDIT - same with Amazing Spider-Man. Wait until release, you'll see many more 2D screenings appear). And I'm sorry your cinema had rubbish times for the 2D version (the ones around me were varied).

But if you're going to make an argument then picking absurd statistics out of thin air to make your point isn't the way to do it. I work in the cinema industry and around 80 - 90% of the cinemas that had the 3D version also had 2D options. Some cinemas couldn't because of lack of screens. Some cinemas only had the 2D version because there are still a lot of cinemas that haven't upgraded to 3D. I have four cinemas around me. All of them had both options, even though one only has 5 screens and one only has two screens.

You may think that the studios are out to force us to go with 3D to maximize their profits (I'd argue that's not always the case, some films are made in 3D from an artistic point of view. We're talking Wrath of the Titans vs. Hugo here). But the cinema industry has learned the hard way through 2010 and the first half of 2011 that whilst 3D is very popular there's still a huge amount of the audience who want to see 2D and so, since around Harry Potter time last year, they've made sure they cater to those people. Otherwise they lose business.

[alien2010]

Originally Posted by Buddy Ackerman

I don't doubt that they pushed the 3D screenings with the pre-bookings, it makes sense as Scott filmed it in 3D and that's ideally how he intended it to be seen (EDIT - same with Amazing Spider-Man. Wait until release, you'll see many more 2D screenings appear). And I'm sorry your cinema had rubbish times for the 2D version (the ones around me were varied).

But if you're going to make an argument then picking absurd statistics out of thin air to make your point isn't the way to do it. I work in the cinema industry and around 80 - 90% of the cinemas that had the 3D version also had 2D options. Some cinemas couldn't because of lack of screens. Some cinemas only had the 2D version because there are still a lot of cinemas that haven't upgraded to 3D. I have four cinemas around me. All of them had both options, even though one only has 5 screens and one only has two screens.

You may think that the studios are out to force us to go with 3D to maximize their profits (I'd argue that's not always the case, some films are made in 3D from an artistic point of view. We're talking Wrath of the Titans vs. Hugo here). But the cinema industry has learned the hard way through 2010 and the first half of 2011 that whilst 3D is very popular there's still a huge amount of the audience who want to see 2D and so, since around Harry Potter time last year, they've made sure they cater to those people. Otherwise they lose business.

I don't deny your expertise and last year I would have agreed with you, take for example the last Pirates of the Carribean film. The Empire in Leicester Square were showing both 2D and 3D screenings. Captain America was the same case, I went to see it in 2D and I enjoyed it very much.

So far this year all I've seen is studios slowly and quietly pushing its audiences towards 3D. Of course there has been the occasional case like with Hugo, and what with Prometheus and The Amazing Spider-Man being shot in 3D.

But despite this, I personally think 3D is a ploy and sadly this ploy has worked, paying an extra £1 on 3D glasses that most people throw away after its use, not to mention adding a few more pence on the actual ticket.

However I would like to know your own point of view, when you saw Hugo and Prometheus Whilst watching the film, did you forget you were watching a 3D film? Did 3D really make a difference to these films? Would your own personal viewing experience would have been tarnished if you watched this film in 2D?

[Mowat2012]

Originally Posted by Blu Lemmy

Your insight is amazing, thanks for sharing

Haha, thanks Nah, in all honesty I have pretty much exhausted myself from talking about this film hence the lack of reasoning for my judgement. Give me a couple of days and I may be able to write about it again The only thing that slightly makes the film more watchable is that it isn't exactly in the Alien franchise, it's in the same universe but just a different stream. To say its dreadful was a bit strong, I neither liked it not hated it, I tolerated it.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by alien2010

However I would like to know your own point of view, when you saw Hugo and Prometheus Whilst watching the film, did you forget you were watching a 3D film? Did 3D really make a difference to these films? Would your own personal viewing experience would have been tarnished if you watched this film in 2D?

Hugo, I loved in 3D. It really worked for me, it added a whole new layer of feeling to it. The story was a gigantic fantasy tale/fairytale that celebrated a visual medium. I honestly thought the 3D added a magical element on top of (and as integrated to) a brilliant film and I would definitely recommend it to anyone as the best way to see it. I have no doubt that it's still a fantastic film without it but it was clear how much effort and art had been put into it.

Prometheus, I saw in 2D first and then in IMAX 3D. And the 3D didn't add much at all. Some of the holograms looked great and there was some nice depth but I preferred the 2D version. I did forget I was watching a 3D film then (except whenever a holographic map popped up).

From what I've seen of Spider-Man's 3D it looks great. But then I think that's the sort of film that's made for 3D. Web-swinging through New York in 3D? If it works as well as it should then that could add a real visceral thrill to it.

I don't think there's more of a push towards 3D. I think cinemas and studios know there's a difference between good 3D and bad 3D. On the whole films shot in 3D work better than ones that don't so, as I say, you will see the studios pushing those as the 'intended experience'. Prometheus, Spider-Man, etc. And as the studios are the ones that decide how far in advance cinemas can pre-book for that's why you'll see the 3D versions available long before the 2D versions (which are usually up a week or so before release). This fits with what you were saying with Captain America, etc last year. There were less films released that were shot in 3D. Transformers 3D was the only one I can think of from last summer and, yes, that one really was pushed in 3D.

Of course this doesn't hold for all films. As I say I wasn't overwhelmed by Prometheus in 3D (and IMAX 3D is the best way to see any 3D film in my experience, so I doubt that I was getting anything less than the intended experience) but The Avengers, which was converted, looked absolutely fantastic. But because it was converted it wasn't really pushed. The 2D screenings were available to pre-book at the same time as the 3D and there was about equal screenings of 2D and 3D.

I don't think cinemas are pushing people per se. I think they're pushing harder than the ones that are 'supposed' to be seen in 3D as a point of pride. But there'll always be 2D screenings available. Too many people have made their mind up about 3D and not being fans of it. And there's nothing wrong with that - people should always have choice.

[Buddy Ackerman]

P.S. Something you might find amusing - when we showed Shame earlier in the year one lady bought a ticket for it then stood at the counter, not moving. When we asked if she was OK she said she was waiting for her 3D glasses. Jesus. Imagine moments of that film in 3D.