Alien: Covenant (2017)

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

Why can't Ridley just make Alien 5 already?

Because the last two practically raped the leftovers.

[hpDeskjet600C]

Can't wait. I think Prometheus is also my favorite of the summer so far. It'll be interesting to see what direction the story takes.

[vegeta88]

Glad to see this. Honestly, I looked at Prometheus as part one anyway. It really needs a second film. I wouldn't mind if Lindelof didn't come back. He is good at getting the audience to ask questions, but I want more than that in the next film.

[Jezza]

I'm so glad this is actually having the go ahead, because ever since it came out with its lukewarm reception I've been worried that a sequel wouldn't be greenlit, so this is the best news I could have hoped for.

I still don't understand those that didn't like the first film. Sure it had many flaws where there didn't need to be any, but I'm surprised they didn't look at it as the first part of a duo or trilogy, because I thought it was obvious it wasn't meant to bee seen as a standalone film.

Hopefully then the sequel will shed a better light on the original and its current reception will be changed once questions are actually answered. So bring on Paradise!

[kristoffer]

I didn't completly love the first but still says bring it!

[duggie walker]

Originally Posted by Jezza

I'm so glad this is actually having the go ahead, because ever since it came out with its lukewarm reception I've been worried that a sequel wouldn't be greenlit, so this is the best news I could have hoped for.

I still don't understand those that didn't like the first film. Sure it had many flaws where there didn't need to be any, but I'm surprised they didn't look at it as the first part of a duo or trilogy, because I thought it was obvious it wasn't meant to bee seen as a standalone film.

No, it's obvious that THE HOBBIT is the first part of a trilogy because that trilogy has already been made. That's the only guarantee of a trilogy in Hollywood. And anyone who makes a film that cannot stand on its own is an idiot, as the chances are thereby reduced of a sequel being made. Ridley Scott is not an idiot; at least, not when it comes to business.

This sequel, if it ever happens - and I wouldn't bet on it - is what's known as damage limitation. Scott knows he made a clunker and now he's firing Lindelof and getting someone else in to try and make retrospective sense of the first one so he won't have to live the rest of his life knowing he botched one of his legacy films.

[Jezza]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

No, it's obvious that THE HOBBIT is the first part of a trilogy because that trilogy has already been made. That's the only guarantee of a trilogy in Hollywood. And anyone who makes a film that cannot stand on its own is an idiot, as the chances are thereby reduced of a sequel being made. Ridley Scott is not an idiot; at least, not when it comes to business.

This sequel, if it ever happens - and I wouldn't bet on it - is what's known as damage limitation. Scott knows he made a clunker and now he's firing Lindelof and getting someone else in to try and make retrospective sense of the first one so he won't have to live the rest of his life knowing he botched one of his legacy films.

What are you on about? My point was it was obviously written with the thought that there might be a sequel, hence why there are so much was unanswered. I didn't mean to imply it was guaranteed to be the first part of a trilogy, simply that it was written that way.
Remember, Prometheus originally started out life as a two-part Alien prequel, but it was changed to a single film as Fox didn't want to invest money into something they were unsure about. So really what we got was the first half of that original two-part film and not a standalone film as it came across in the trailers or pre-release material.

And why do you doubt it's not going to get made? It's been confirmed by Fox that it's having the go ahead for a 2014 or 2015 release date, and it was actually they who dispensed with Lindelof, not Scott, because to me it seems he doesn't think he made a "clunker". If anything he seems to think Prometheus is a superb film and is clearly proud of it, so can't wait to do another one.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

No, it's obvious that THE HOBBIT is the first part of a trilogy because that trilogy has already been made. That's the only guarantee of a trilogy in Hollywood. And anyone who makes a film that cannot stand on its own is an idiot, as the chances are thereby reduced of a sequel being made. Ridley Scott is not an idiot; at least, not when it comes to business.

This sequel, if it ever happens - and I wouldn't bet on it - is what's known as damage limitation. Scott knows he made a clunker and now he's firing Lindelof and getting someone else in to try and make retrospective sense of the first one so he won't have to live the rest of his life knowing he botched one of his legacy films.

You did see the post on the last page that said Fox had greenlit the sequel, right? Prometheus was always supposed to be two movies. Scott has said as much. So I never took it as a standalone story. Originally he was going to shoot back to back but Fox said no, just do this one first. I'm glad to see they're pressing forward with the second half of the story.

[Elandyll]

I also would like to point out that while not a smash hit, for a R rated sci-fi, Prometheus did an ok biz at a little more than 2x budget.

Bit underwhelming on Foreign, which is weird.

Also, like Walt said, it was designed from the get go like a 2 parter, with Paradise being the story (if memory serves) that Scott was really interested to tell when Fox really wanted to tie it to the Alien universe.

[duggie walker]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

You did see the post on the last page that said Fox had greenlit the sequel, right? Prometheus was always supposed to be two movies. Scott has said as much. So I never took it as a standalone story. Originally he was going to shoot back to back but Fox said no, just do this one first. I'm glad to see they're pressing forward with the second half of the story.

First off, I don't care what any statement says, a film isn't being made until everyone's on set shooting it. I went to see Ridley Scott talking about Blade Runner a couple of years ago and his next film was going to be THE FOREVER WAR in 3-D. He said after that he'd be making MONOPOLY and a film of CHILD 44. PROMETHEUS popped up out of nowhere, and so did the film he's making now. They don't even have a writer on board for PROMETHEUS 2. So excuse me but that "announcement" means nothing.

Secondly, the whole story about two movies is bogus. This is something they no doubt discussed as they were conceiving it but even Lindelof has said that there was no firm intent to do that. The idea that PROMETHEUS's lazy scriptwork and nonsensical plotting was all part of some master-scheme is rubbish.

I'll give you the fact that they didn't reveal the reason why the Engineers wanted to kill us on purpose but I genuinely think they thought that might stand as some kind of profound "tease". But outside of a few forums, there is general mockery of how poor PROMETHEUS was. Even giving them the benefit of the doubt - even if every stupid character moment, mystifying plot development and unanswered question was completely deliberate - they massively miscalculated audience response and that's got to burn a man like Scott. If he comes back to his own shit, it'll be to cover it over.

I still think it's likely that he'll walk away from it, letting Lindelof take the guilt. I suspect they've left themselves in a narrative cul-de-sac that'll be very difficult to find a way out of. I can only hope that Scott's learned his lesson and that he lets BLADE RUNNER 2 slip quietly away at the same time. And I'm very sad to have to say that as it's my favourite film of all time.

[Project-Zep]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

First off, I don't care what any statement says, a film isn't being made until everyone's on set shooting it. I went to see Ridley Scott talking about Blade Runner a couple of years ago and his next film was going to be THE FOREVER WAR in 3-D. He said after that he'd be making MONOPOLY and a film of CHILD 44. PROMETHEUS popped up out of nowhere, and so did the film he's making now. They don't even have a writer on board for PROMETHEUS 2. So excuse me but that "announcement" means nothing.

Secondly, the whole story about two movies is bogus. This is something they no doubt discussed as they were conceiving it but even Lindelof has said that there was no firm intent to do that. The idea that PROMETHEUS's lazy scriptwork and nonsensical plotting was all part of some master-scheme is rubbish.

I'll give you the fact that they didn't reveal the reason why the Engineers wanted to kill us on purpose but I genuinely think they thought that might stand as some kind of profound "tease". But outside of a few forums, there is general mockery of how poor PROMETHEUS was. Even giving them the benefit of the doubt - even if every stupid character moment, mystifying plot development and unanswered question was completely deliberate - they massively miscalculated audience response and that's got to burn a man like Scott. If he comes back to his own shit, it'll be to cover it over.

I still think it's likely that he'll walk away from it, letting Lindelof take the guilt. I suspect they've left themselves in a narrative cul-de-sac that'll be very difficult to find a way out of. I can only hope that Scott's learned his lesson and that he lets BLADE RUNNER 2 slip quietly away at the same time. And I'm very sad to have to say that as it's my favourite film of all time.

This guy is right regarding the two films. They thought about it, said the film could benefit from a 2 parter but it really depended on how this film performed and probably the looks towards the end of the film's production, Scott wanted a sequel too.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

First off, I don't care what any statement says, a film isn't being made until everyone's on set shooting it. I went to see Ridley Scott talking about Blade Runner a couple of years ago and his next film was going to be THE FOREVER WAR in 3-D. He said after that he'd be making MONOPOLY and a film of CHILD 44. PROMETHEUS popped up out of nowhere, and so did the film he's making now. They don't even have a writer on board for PROMETHEUS 2. So excuse me but that "announcement" means nothing.

Secondly, the whole story about two movies is bogus. This is something they no doubt discussed as they were conceiving it but even Lindelof has said that there was no firm intent to do that. The idea that PROMETHEUS's lazy scriptwork and nonsensical plotting was all part of some master-scheme is rubbish.

I'll give you the fact that they didn't reveal the reason why the Engineers wanted to kill us on purpose but I genuinely think they thought that might stand as some kind of profound "tease". But outside of a few forums, there is general mockery of how poor PROMETHEUS was. Even giving them the benefit of the doubt - even if every stupid character moment, mystifying plot development and unanswered question was completely deliberate - they massively miscalculated audience response and that's got to burn a man like Scott. If he comes back to his own shit, it'll be to cover it over.

I still think it's likely that he'll walk away from it, letting Lindelof take the guilt. I suspect they've left themselves in a narrative cul-de-sac that'll be very difficult to find a way out of. I can only hope that Scott's learned his lesson and that he lets BLADE RUNNER 2 slip quietly away at the same time. And I'm very sad to have to say that as it's my favourite film of all time.

Seperate your opinion from fact. Because the two are not one in the same.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

lol. You have to love haters of the film that will insist that a sequel's not really going to happen even in the face of an announcement of said sequel.

I'm very happy. Prometheus, despite not being perfect, had a lot of great things going for it - chief among them Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender. So to get to see a sequel with those two going off to find the Engineers will be quite awesome.

[Talyn]

..... Hell's Yeah! Made my day!....Made my week! ....Nah, Made my YEARS till 2015 (I'd buy that as release year)....

[nremdn]

This is great news. I think a sequel (if done correctly) could really button up a lot of the loose ends people disliked about Prometheus. If the stories are true about the story initially being intended as a two parter, then this could give people a whole new appreciation for Prometheus.

[KOQ24]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Because the last two practically raped the leftovers.

it would take a miracle to properly revive Alien after Resurrection

[Nuova]

Hope Scott removes Lindelof from any position of influence on this movie.

[kristoffer]

Originally Posted by Nuova

Hope Scott removes Lindelof from any position of influence on this movie.

+1 !
He was the worst thing about the movie!

[Col. Zombie]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Because the last two practically raped the leftovers.

He can just pull a Brian Singer (Superman Returns) and step in, forgetting the last two movies even existed, and pick up where Aliens left off.

[Justin83]

I think this is great news and would love to see it, but I do agree that it's far enough away that it's hard to say it will definitely happen based on this announcement.

In the far more immediate future, I'd love to here something official one way or the other on the existence of an extended cut of Prometheus on Blu.