Robocop (2014) - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

theprestige85 · 02-08-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Maybe watch it before you label it a "by the number action adventure" and compare it to other well done remakes?

I guess you are right, I should at least watch it before I form an opinion. I'll rent it when its available to rent in a few months time.

dvdmike · 02-08-2014, 08:04 PM

An open mind is a thing lost in the internet age

darry · 02-08-2014, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by theprestige85

I saw this film as a little kid when it would pop on tv every now and again, and I must say, I did find almost every death scene disturbing, specially the Murphy death as you mentioned. It's horrific and I think it's made worse by the fact that those lunatics are just giggling and laughing while blowing off his limbs. It cuts deeper too since Peter Weller has a very sympathetic energy to him what with his warm smile and unpretentious good looks. That scene is even more devasting in hi def ):

My biggest problem with the remake is that it looks like a by the numbers action adventure. It's like they don't even want to do anything or turn things on it's head.

If you remake a film, make it your own, don't copy the original. Take Cronenberg's excellent remake of The Fly or Carpenter's sublime version of The Thing. Or how about Herzog's wonderfully revamped Bad Lieutenant? Those are the best examples of how yo remake a film. Reinterpret it and make it your damn own. It's as simple as that.The remake looks to just copy the original without the absurd violence. Wheres the risk? Wheres the creativity?

Yeah, there's something about Weller that makes the film great. The trailer totally makes the movie look like what you are saying, a watered down version without the creativity. But the video review posted above gives me a bit of hope, especially the remark that the director has kept most of the subtext/themes intact. I still think it won't capture the surprise of the original. I did like Total Recall rebooted, though, so I will probably change my mind.

levcore · 02-08-2014, 09:06 PM

Saw this today and really enjoyed it. Its extremely well done, really well directed. In no way does this feel like a money grabbing exercise. The action is fairly sparse and low key, its not a big cgi fest. The performances are great, kinnaman is a very effective Murphy, Oldman is brilliant and Keaton and Jackie Earle Haley lend great support. This movie is dark and definitely not for kids. Its very different to the original but it maintains a lot of the themes, embellishing on some of to great effect. This will be a day one purchase for me.

Sky_Captain · 02-08-2014, 09:25 PM

Just back from seeing it.

I didn't hate it, but it's hard to hate something that you felt absolutely nothing towards. It's a toss up between this and Jack Ryan, for which was the most boring and pointless franchise resurrection of early 2014.

Kermode's review is so damning with faint praise, it should be linked on Wikipedia, whenever someone looks up 'Damning With Faint Praise'.

Brightstar · 02-10-2014, 03:26 PM

This movie is not rated 18 no blood no gore it must suck. Looking at the trailer i would stick to the 1987 version

levcore · 02-10-2014, 03:39 PM

Seriously what is up with people, blood and gore alone do not make a good movie. The trailer is not the finished movie, it only promotes it. See the finished film in order to gauge an accurate opinion.

Buzz201 · 02-10-2014, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by levcore

Seriously what is up with people, blood and gore alone do not make a good movie. The trailer is not the finished movie, it only promotes it. See the finished film in order to gauge an accurate opinion.

Ratings can be misleading as well, I'm not sure I'd consider The Dark Knight or Transformers 3 suitable for 12 year olds. TDK has fairly strong violence and there's some surprisingly strong sexual humour and general perviness in DOTM...

Kermode was asked about it on his radio show and said it was a fairly strong 12, I believe it said it was more a "blimey Charlie how did this get a 12" than something you'd 10/11 year old child to

Surfdude · 02-10-2014, 04:18 PM

It follows the, in my opinion slightly disturbing, philosophy of recent PG-13/12A rated films that quite extreme violence is fun for all the family as long as you don't show the consequences (ie. blood). The recent Wolverine was another one; our hero can stab as many people as he likes as long as we don't see their wounds.

The action relies rather heavily on shaky cam, something that doesn't normally bother me at all (in the Bournes for example) but I struggled to see what was going on at times in this.

There's also a couple of quite gnarly surgery scenes that had mothers in the showing I saw ushering their kids out hurriedly. Although one scene, that was presumably supposed to be shocking, had the audience in fits of laughter - something I haven't experienced to that degree since George Lucas thought it would be a good idea to use the word "younglings!"

Buzz201 · 02-10-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfdude

It follows the, in my opinion slightly disturbing, philosophy of recent PG-13/12A rated films that quite extreme violence is fun for all the family as long as you don't show the consequences (ie. blood). The recent Wolverine was another one; our hero can stab as many people as he likes as long as we don't see their wounds.

There's also a couple of quite gnarly surgery scenes that had mothers in the showing I saw ushering their kids out hurriedly. Although one scene, that was presumably supposed to be shocking, had the audience in fits of laughter - something I haven't experienced to that degree since George Lucas thought it would be a good idea to use the word "younglings!"

The extended cut of The Wolverine has some blood and gore and that got a 12.

And the BBFC work on the public's opinion not the philosophy of showing violence, and apparently the public don't want the effects of violence being shown at a 12...

Surfdude · 02-10-2014, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz201

The extended cut of The Wolverine has some blood and gore and that got a 12.

And the BBFC work on the public's opinion not the philosophy of showing violence, and apparently the public don't want the effects of violence being shown at a 12...

I'm not saying they should show the effects of violence in a 12, the opposite in fact, I think it's odd that the violent act itself is considered okay. It seems like the wrong way round to me.

Anyway, I think it's more the MPAA, the American media has rather strange priorities when it comes to censorship, and the BBFC just follows suit.

Anyhow, didn't mean to get off topic...

Duane Benzie(Spaced) · 02-10-2014, 10:04 PM

I watched it tonight, the fanboys that have been slating it since it was first rumoured seriously need to get a grip, it was superb.
Steelbook preordered.

dvdmike · 02-11-2014, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Duane Benzie(Spaced)

I watched it tonight, the fanboys that have been slating it since it was first rumoured seriously need to get a grip, it was superb.
Steelbook preordered.

Damn straight

Spirit Zero · 02-13-2014, 03:11 AM

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Mark Kermode reviews Robocop - YouTube

LOL! I love this...so basically...its crap, but not as crap as we all thought it would be. Well that's just dandy, money and time well spent on this film.

beadelf · 02-13-2014, 09:42 AM

not horrible just not brilliant either, mildly entertaining for myself, would pick it up maybe if it drops to £3-4 quid in a year or so.

Socko · 02-13-2014, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by levcore

Seriously what is up with people, blood and gore alone do not make a good movie.

Neither does CGI, yet most movies are full of it.

Spirit Zero · 02-14-2014, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Socko

Neither does CGI, yet most movies are full of it.

Haha! zing! nice response

levcore · 02-14-2014, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Socko

Neither does CGI, yet most movies are full of it.

And? That has nothing to do with the topic. Random.

wooble89 · 02-14-2014, 06:30 AM

I'm shocked to say it wasn't bad. Nothing close to the original, but if you take away the nostalgia it might be close to 2. Certainly better than 3, but that's not saying much.

They explored some different ideas which I liked. After the tease they really needed to use more of the music.

I'll be interested to see how my opinions shapes in time, but now it's kinda good, but not great by any means.

beadelf · 02-14-2014, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wooble89

I'm shocked to say it wasn't bad. Nothing close to the original, but if you take away the nostalgia it might be close to 2. Certainly better than 3, but that's not saying much.

They explored some different ideas which I liked. After the tease they really needed to use more of the music.

I'll be interested to see how my opinions shapes in time, but now it's kinda good, but not great by any means.

yeah Id say its better than 3 easily

not as good as 2 and not in the same league as the original

02-08-2014, 09:25 PM	#25
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	Just back from seeing it. I didn't hate it, but it's hard to hate something that you felt absolutely nothing towards. It's a toss up between this and Jack Ryan, for which was the most boring and pointless franchise resurrection of early 2014. Kermode's review is so damning with faint praise, it should be linked on Wikipedia, whenever someone looks up 'Damning With Faint Praise'. Last edited by Sky_Captain; 02-08-2014 at 09:29 PM.

02-08-2014, 08:04 PM	#22
dvdmike Banned Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray collection:1069	An open mind is a thing lost in the internet age

02-08-2014, 09:06 PM	#24
levcore Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Dryland 4K collection:306 Blu-ray collection:2616 Trading Score:3	Saw this today and really enjoyed it. Its extremely well done, really well directed. In no way does this feel like a money grabbing exercise. The action is fairly sparse and low key, its not a big cgi fest. The performances are great, kinnaman is a very effective Murphy, Oldman is brilliant and Keaton and Jackie Earle Haley lend great support. This movie is dark and definitely not for kids. Its very different to the original but it maintains a lot of the themes, embellishing on some of to great effect. This will be a day one purchase for me.

02-10-2014, 03:26 PM	#26
Brightstar Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2011 Blu-ray collection:39 Blu-ray reviews:4	This movie is not rated 18 no blood no gore it must suck. Looking at the trailer i would stick to the 1987 version

02-10-2014, 03:39 PM	#27
levcore Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Dryland 4K collection:306 Blu-ray collection:2616 Trading Score:3	Seriously what is up with people, blood and gore alone do not make a good movie. The trailer is not the finished movie, it only promotes it. See the finished film in order to gauge an accurate opinion.

02-10-2014, 04:18 PM	#29
Surfdude Member Member since:Mar 2011	It follows the, in my opinion slightly disturbing, philosophy of recent PG-13/12A rated films that quite extreme violence is fun for all the family as long as you don't show the consequences (ie. blood). The recent Wolverine was another one; our hero can stab as many people as he likes as long as we don't see their wounds. The action relies rather heavily on shaky cam, something that doesn't normally bother me at all (in the Bournes for example) but I struggled to see what was going on at times in this. There's also a couple of quite gnarly surgery scenes that had mothers in the showing I saw ushering their kids out hurriedly. Although one scene, that was presumably supposed to be shocking, had the audience in fits of laughter - something I haven't experienced to that degree since George Lucas thought it would be a good idea to use the word "younglings!"

02-10-2014, 10:04 PM	#32
Duane Benzie(Spaced) Active Member Member since:Sep 2010 Blu-ray collection:80	I watched it tonight, the fanboys that have been slating it since it was first rumoured seriously need to get a grip, it was superb. Steelbook preordered.

02-13-2014, 09:42 AM	#35
beadelf Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:London 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 64	not horrible just not brilliant either, mildly entertaining for myself, would pick it up maybe if it drops to £3-4 quid in a year or so.

02-14-2014, 06:30 AM	#39
wooble89 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Scotland Blu-ray collection:1083 Blu-ray reviews: 20	I'm shocked to say it wasn't bad. Nothing close to the original, but if you take away the nostalgia it might be close to 2. Certainly better than 3, but that's not saying much. They explored some different ideas which I liked. After the tease they really needed to use more of the music. I'll be interested to see how my opinions shapes in time, but now it's kinda good, but not great by any means.

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