Why no DTS on HD-DVD?

[Anthony P]

It did have DTS and DTS HD in the specs.


Some of the reasons

1) DTS-MA did take a bit longer to be ready (i.e. what I mean is encoders for studios and decoders for players /receivers) but obviously that is not the only (or even in my opinion the main one since that would not explain DTS not being used)

2) bandwidth. BD was formed at 1.5x rate while HD-DVD was only at 1x ( the deeper the data the more powerful the laser needs to be to read it at a given rate) The limited BW meant that it was better to use it for PQ over AQ. Also BD had 48mbps datarate while video was limited to 40mbps so there is no issue going up to 8 mbps for audio+ subs without it even being able to affect PQ while HD-DVD had 30.25 total and 29.5 for video so aif you go more than 1mbps you affect PQ)

as for DD+, most of it was a crock, the first thing to realize is that DD+ (unlike DTHD) was an expansion on DD. When DVD was formed the audio was matched to the video timing and so DD was limited to 448kbps and HD-DVD (for th esame reason) 504 kbps while on BD it could reach the full 640 kbps of DD. the crock comes in that if a studio wanted 640 kbps DD on HD-DVD they needed to call it DD+ (and let the player re-call the DD core that was the only thing in the stream DD and send the 640 DD to the receiver) on the other hand on BD because DD+ was not mandatory the DD and + were separate so if a studio had DD at 640 it was called DD but, for example, it had a 7.1 the 5.1 would be called DD and the separate file that had the two extra channels with the DD file would make it DD+, so you could not call a DD 640 DD+.

[HyperRealist]

I have a couple DTS demo HD DVDs.

[Rick Grimes]

Originally Posted by bhampton

What's HD-DVD?

It's funny 'cos it's true. Bought a HD-DVD (Apollo 13) for $5 from a 2nd hand shop for historical reference. Came in handy as I showed it to a friend recently when I told him about the HD format war, and he told me he had never heard of HD-DVD.

What's sadder, in Australia many don't know why Blu-Ray is better than Standard DVD! I have been educating friends/family for years at gatherings and I'm glad to say I've converted more than a few.

Recently however, while in the JB Hi-Fi Sci-Fi DVD section, I had a stranger dressed as a Dr.Who companion (on the 50th Anniversary day) ask "What's different about Blu-Ray?" when I told her group that Dr.Who S1-4 were coming to Blu-Ray... Only 1 out of the 5 twenty-somethings knew what Blu-Ray was for!

Bunch of technological savages in this country

[ADstv]

My HD-DVDs are still in the box from when I moved home. Did buy a heap at the very end of the HD format war when they were selling off for $10AUD. The only movie I have that did have DTS was Disturbia. Only reason I brought into HD-DVD was because of Paramount exclusive releases!

Here is the box from which they haven't moved in 2 years, even some are still unwrapped!

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by ADstv

Here is the box from which they haven't moved in 2 years, even some are still unwrapped!

This is why I waited until the format wars were over. I knew they both wouldn't last forever, there had to be a clear winner. I even asked someone at the time which he preferred and he said "just buy both players like I did" but I wasn't about to do that.

[bhampton]

So glad I never had any.

Still... I feel like throwing out my 3 laserdiscs all the time and I can't go through with it. I haven't had a player for ever and for all I know they may have gone bad.

[roar]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

This is why I waited until the format wars were over. I knew they both wouldn't last forever, there had to be a clear winner. I even asked someone at the time which he preferred and he said "just buy both players like I did" but I wasn't about to do that.

I bought both and I'm glad I did... I was determined to have the best experience possible at the time while watching the movies I wanted to watch rather than having a format dictate what I could watch. I still think the wrong format won, but what can you do

[blonde_devil]

I always thought it was funny that HD-DVD died too but that's how these things go. Just think though - had they won, we wouldn't be getting these stupid blu-ray/dvd combo packs.

I know DTS isn't always included as some home theatres had problems with it but I don't know if that is an issue anymore. Another excuse for just one home video format with consistency I guess.

[szyzk]

Originally Posted by ADstv

My HD-DVDs are still in the box from when I moved home. Did buy a heap at the very end of the HD format war when they were selling off for $10AUD.

Hah! I have a pile of HD-DVDs that I picked up for about $4 each new right at the end of the format wars. Offhand I'm guessing I have 15-20 movies.

I didn't have a stand-alone player, just the addition for the Xbox 360, and shortly after I brought the movies home my 360 had a "red light of death" (or whatever they were calling it at the time). It was the fifth time that I had that problem and by that point, after being on the phone with them so many times and after having no media player in my house since it always took weeks (or longer) to fix & ship, I packed everything up, put it in a closet, and bought a PS3.

I should dig out the discs and the add-on player and eBay them for the Buy It Now cost of a Criterion from my wishlist instead of allowing them to unnecessarily take up space.

[bludarkknight]

Assault on Precinct 13, (remake) HD-DVD has Dolby digital, plus and dts.






His shit is on purse.

[roar]

7 years later... that cat looks like missing missy.

[BijouMan]

It's "HD DVD." There is no dash between "HD" and "DVD."

[rexinnih]

Funny thread bump that caught my attention. Actually worked at DTS during the "format war" and simple answer is yes, there were DTS tracks on a few HD DVDs but along studio lines. Warner - no. Universal, a few U-571 as an example, Paramount, a few Sky Captain as an example. And that was pretty much the studio love for HD DVD. Disney, Fox, etc. were Blu-ray and had a bit more love for DTS.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by rexinnih

Funny thread bump that caught my attention. Actually worked at DTS during the "format war" and simple answer is yes, there were DTS tracks on a few HD DVDs but along studio lines. Warner - no. Universal, a few U-571 as an example, Paramount, a few Sky Captain as an example. And that was pretty much the studio love for HD DVD. Disney, Fox, etc. were Blu-ray and had a bit more love for DTS.

Before DTS had a chance to fully support HD DVD, Blu-ray had prevailed the format war and HD DVD became defunct.

[bludarkknight]

Originally Posted by rexinnih

Funny thread bump that caught my attention. Actually worked at DTS during the "format war" and simple answer is yes, there were DTS tracks on a few HD DVDs but along studio lines. Warner - no. Universal, a few U-571 as an example, Paramount, a few Sky Captain as an example. And that was pretty much the studio love for HD DVD. Disney, Fox, etc. were Blu-ray and had a bit more love for DTS.

My late Cat, Sooty poses with HD-DVD







SDDS 8channel oh I have an SDDS D3000 maybe why it sounded so cool here in JBL Lucasfilm Ltd THX sound syetem. those depth charges.