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Old 05-02-2016, 04:24 PM   #1
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A few very elementary questions I have here for Mr. Joshi :-
What kind of a source are the restorers settling for? The film was released in 70mm. I hope that is in a passable condition to be taken for restoration. And what about the sound? Recall, the film had a multi-channel sound equipment. Any word on whether the same is being reproduced?
Any word on the status at all? How is the progress coming up? Is there really a chance for it's release, or our you just putting an extension to this mal-adaptive day dreaming we've been watching since forever? At this point, I don't really care about extra features, or the directors' cut version to be sourced and restored; however, I find the imperative need to have a carefully restored and re-mastered Blu-ray; please!

Also, you mentioned Mughal-E-Azam having an HD master in Shemeroo's hands. I sincerely hope they've taken a fresh scan from original B&W negatives, and not the oh-so-sorry colorized version. Please shed more light on this.
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Old 08-15-2016, 01:50 PM   #2
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Sholay being shown on Star Gold HD, and it's from the new 3D master with redone sound.
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Old 08-15-2016, 02:58 PM   #3
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Yes, I am watching it and came here to update about it but you already did it. Sound is 5.1 but surrounds are low, have to increase the level. Recording it from Holi Ke Din song.
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:27 PM   #5
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i dont like the colors here. lot of tweaking it shows. Not to mention overworked sound too. Why kill the soul of the film this way ?

these changes are exactly what was not done for HAHK which looks fab...at least in ScreenShots.
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Old 08-18-2016, 04:05 AM   #6
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Agree, may be they have colored (read re-colored) some of the elements, increased saturation (grass, trees, sky, dresses) like they do to convert any B/W movie to color. Don't know it's all done intentionally, to look this like new movies. By the way as it was released in Dolby Atmos, I wish they release its Blu-ray including original audio track.
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:31 PM   #7
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What’s the idea of re-coloring a colored movie? The original DVD has a lot more detail than this so called HD version.

SyDVD.jpg

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And to add insult to injury, StarGold shows its commercials right in the middle of a song.

Sy Holi.jpg

Thanks, but no thanks! I want a Blu-ray for the 1975 movie “Sholay” with original AR, audio and colors.

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Old 08-19-2016, 03:53 AM   #8
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What’s the idea of re-coloring a colored movie? The original DVD has a lot more detail than this so called HD version.

Thanks, but no thanks! I want a Blu-ray for the 1975 movie “Sholay” with original AR, audio and colors.
May be to make the color more vibrant which is not good if you like the original. But they have worked on Audio and Video both to look like archived from new source.

Star Gold Aspect Ratio looks better than DVD, I am not sure if any DVD version was released in this AR.

Don't know whose idea it was to re-color/re-record the AV, everything was best in the original. Video may have some blemishes, spots, scratches which should be the part of this restoration, and I guess there was nothing to re-do in the music which was already superior than this one.

I wish any foreign studio work on this as it should be. Original AR video with 6-Track Audio, I won't mind if they release 3-Disc limited edition with this new 3D Sholay as a bonus.
Disc 1 > Original Sholay (nothing artificial)
Disc 2 > 2D-3D (whatever is in the new)
Disc 3 > Sholay-The Making, Interviews, Promotional material they had used, Posters
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:44 AM   #9
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So I guess I'm the only one who liked the new color palette. No former DVD of Sholay has ever reached that caliber. It looks very life-like and natural. It sure does look better than other movies that have been restored on Shemaroo- like the Hrishikesh Mukherjee bunch. Shemaroo seems to render the colors in such a way that the fluorescent colors look louder than the rest, which I really dislike.
But oh, that audio mastering is despicable.
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Old 08-19-2016, 04:42 PM   #10
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May be to make the color more vibrant which is not good if you like the original. But they have worked on Audio and Video both to look like archived from new source.

Star Gold Aspect Ratio looks better than DVD, I am not sure if any DVD version was released in this AR.

Don't know whose idea it was to re-color/re-record the AV, everything was best in the original. Video may have some blemishes, spots, scratches which should be the part of this restoration, and I guess there was nothing to re-do in the music which was already superior than this one.

I wish any foreign studio work on this as it should be. Original AR video with 6-Track Audio, I won't mind if they release 3-Disc limited edition with this new 3D Sholay as a bonus.
Disc 1 > Original Sholay (nothing artificial)
Disc 2 > 2D-3D (whatever is in the new)
Disc 3 > Sholay-The Making, Interviews, Promotional material they had used, Posters
You’re probably right about making it look more vibrant. The songs play well in my HT. Thanks to HDDCS, I was able to download all of them. I like your idea of a 3-disc edition. I don’t know of any DVD with the same AR. But here is a 35mm frame from another DVD which has a lot more picture on the top & bottom. So what's the true AR of a movie?

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I don’t know of any DVD with the same AR. But here is a 35mm frame from another DVD which has a lot more picture on the top & bottom. So what's the true AR of a movie?
Sholay was released theatrically with two different aspect ratios. The wide release was the 35mm print with an aspect ratio of 1.37:1. But there was also a more limited release of 70mm prints with an aspect ratio of 2.20:1 Therefore technically both aspect ratios qualify as the original aspect ratio. But although the movie was shot in 35mm 1.37:1, it is the blown up 70mm 2.20:1 print that probably qualifies as the director's cut, since it was also the substantially longer version of the movie with six track audio. So if there is to be just 'one' original release for Blu-ray, then it should be the 70mm Six track stereo version.

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Old 08-18-2016, 11:41 PM   #12
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Wow everything got taken down
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^Agree with Sanjay's point. Ramesh Sippy's vision was primarily the widescreen 70mm version.
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Whatever AR the copy posted on torrent site. I am very happy
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Whatever AR the copy posted on torrent site. I am very happy
Is it in HD with Digital multi channel audio? Lossy or lossless audio?
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It is 1080 p sanju audio is 2 channel AAC pretty darn clean. Some one eemasterrd to pseudo 5.1 DTS but I don't like it


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Old 01-17-2017, 07:18 PM   #18
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2.40:1 Aspect Ratio even in 720i HD lowest of the low HD will look this good







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Pretty damned cool.
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