Noah iTunes - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

jscoggins · 07-23-2014, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunk the Lunk

If you bought a blu-ray which had the wrong aspect ratio would you complain to the store where you got it or the distributor of the blu-ray?

Both. The store should stop selling defective products, and the distributor should offer replacements to people who already obtained the defective items.

This is exactly what happened with the Lethal Weapon 4-Film Collection, btw. Best Buy pulled it from their shelves instead of selling the defective version to customers and telling them to go complain to Warner.

Dunk the Lunk · 07-23-2014, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Both. The store should stop selling defective products, and the distributor should offer replacements to people who already obtained the defective items.

What has been the distributors response then? It might be they just supplied the wrong file to iTunes in error.

jscoggins · 07-23-2014, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ColinD

I haven't watched the movie yet but my screen shot was from 8m35s

Someone with the Blu next week might be able to do a comparison.

I was able to get a screen grab to match ColinD's shot:

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Originally Posted by Dunk the Lunk

What has been the distributors response then? It might be they just supplied the wrong file to iTunes in error.

VUDU has the correct aspect ratio. Why was a 2.40:1 version created in the first place? Seems very, very weird.

Jumpman · 07-23-2014, 10:02 AM

If VUDU got the right aspect ratio then there must've been a mistake between the studio and iTunes in terms of the file they received. If it was across all digital platforms, then it would've been either a massive mistake or at the behest of the director, the change in aspect ratio.

Blu-21 · 07-23-2014, 10:02 AM

This is really unusual. I mean you often see films in the wider 2.35:1 aspect ratio cropped or opened up to 1.85:1 or 1.78:1 for broadcast TV to get rid of the 'black bars', but you never see something that is 1.85:1 converted to 2.35:1/2.40:1. I mean they are cropping the image in a whole different way where the letterboxing is actually covering detail that was meant to be seen.

Jumpman · 07-23-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-21

This is really unusual. I mean you often see films in the wider 2.35:1 aspect ratio cropped or opened up to 1.85:1 or 1.78:1 for broadcast TV to get rid of the 'black bars', but you never see something that is 1.85:1 converted to 2.35:1/2.40:1. I mean they are cropping the image in a whole different way where the letterboxing is actually covering detail that was meant to be seen.

Again, this has to be an error for VUDU to get the correct aspect ratio while iTunes didn't.

jscoggins · 07-23-2014, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-21

This is really unusual. I mean you often see films in the wider 2.35:1 aspect ratio cropped or opened up to 1.85:1 or 1.78:1 for broadcast TV to get rid of the 'black bars', but you never see something that is 1.85:1 converted to 2.35:1/2.40:1. I mean they are cropping the image in a whole different way where the letterboxing is actually covering detail that was meant to be seen.

Exactly. This almost seems like somehow a constant height fetishist got into Paramount's or iTunes' servers and cropped the image so that the movie would fill his CIH projector setup.

Blu-21 · 07-23-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

Again, this has to be an error for VUDU to get the correct aspect ratio while iTunes didn't.

Still strange regardless of if it was a error or not.

Dunk the Lunk · 07-23-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

VUDU has the correct aspect ratio. Why was a 2.40:1 version created in the first place? Seems very, very weird.

Yep it does seem very weird that it was created. However as I recently discovered from another user of this board, it seems fairly easy for distributors to make (minor) mistakes submitting files to iTunes.

Interestingly the UK version is listed as 5.87gb while the US one with the cropping is listed as 5.54gb... UK iTunes also lists 20th Century Fox as the distributors - is this the correct version??! Or is this also wrong? It'll be interesting to see when its released in the UK (next week).

shamus · 07-23-2014, 06:41 PM

Do we know if its cropped for sure? There could actually be more picture information in that scene.

jscoggins · 07-23-2014, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shamus

Do we know if its cropped for sure? There could actually be more picture information in that scene.

Just look at the top of Crowe's head...

shamus · 07-23-2014, 06:50 PM

agreed, but it appears to be a very tight shot film throughout by looking at these...
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Noah-...3/#Screenshots

until he post an identical shot from one of those screenshots, we wont knoe for sure.

jscoggins · 07-23-2014, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shamus

agreed, but it appears to be a very tight shot film throughout by looking at these...
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Noah-...3/#Screenshots

until he post an identical shot from one of those screenshots, we wont knoe for sure.

The reviewer picked a lot of close-up shots, yes, but that's not how the entire film appears.

Besides, I took a screencap of the same time as ColinD.

manutd123 · 07-23-2014, 07:42 PM

I have received an email from Apple:

Dear iTunes Customer,

Thank you for downloading the movie Noah. Unfortunately, the movie you received may have had some noticeable quality issues. We have corrected the problem and a new copy is available to download, free of charge. To receive the new version, please re-download the title from your iTunes purchase history.

Regards,

iTunes Support Team

jscoggins · 07-23-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by manutd123

I have received an email from Apple:

Dear iTunes Customer,

Thank you for downloading the movie Noah. Unfortunately, the movie you received may have had some noticeable quality issues. We have corrected the problem and a new copy is available to download, free of charge. To receive the new version, please re-download the title from your iTunes purchase history.

Regards,

iTunes Support Team

Could you confirm if the aspect ratio has been fixed?

manutd123 · 07-23-2014, 08:00 PM

No black bars on top or bottom.

jscoggins · 07-23-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by manutd123

No black bars on top or bottom.

[Show spoiler]

PeterTHX · 07-23-2014, 09:07 PM

[QUOTE=jscoggins;9485564]

[Show spoiler]

[//QUOTE]

Not quite a victory.

It's still iTunes.

shamus · 07-23-2014, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscoggins

The reviewer picked a lot of close-up shots, yes, but that's not how the entire film appears.

Besides, I took a screencap of the same time as ColinD.

your shot isnt showing up for me?

shamus · 07-23-2014, 09:20 PM

ok... i see it now. had to paste your link in another window

07-23-2014, 10:02 AM	#24
Jumpman Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Durham, NC 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:118 DVD collection:7 Digital collection:230 iTunes collection:1785 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:39	If VUDU got the right aspect ratio then there must've been a mistake between the studio and iTunes in terms of the file they received. If it was across all digital platforms, then it would've been either a massive mistake or at the behest of the director, the change in aspect ratio.

07-23-2014, 10:02 AM	#25
Blu-21 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:67 Blu-ray reviews:1	This is really unusual. I mean you often see films in the wider 2.35:1 aspect ratio cropped or opened up to 1.85:1 or 1.78:1 for broadcast TV to get rid of the 'black bars', but you never see something that is 1.85:1 converted to 2.35:1/2.40:1. I mean they are cropping the image in a whole different way where the letterboxing is actually covering detail that was meant to be seen.

07-23-2014, 06:41 PM	#30
shamus Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Trading Score:25	Do we know if its cropped for sure? There could actually be more picture information in that scene.

07-23-2014, 06:50 PM	#32
shamus Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Trading Score:25	agreed, but it appears to be a very tight shot film throughout by looking at these... https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Noah-...3/#Screenshots until he post an identical shot from one of those screenshots, we wont knoe for sure.

07-23-2014, 07:42 PM	#34
manutd123 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2010 Blu-ray collection:63 Trading Score:75	I have received an email from Apple: Dear iTunes Customer, Thank you for downloading the movie Noah. Unfortunately, the movie you received may have had some noticeable quality issues. We have corrected the problem and a new copy is available to download, free of charge. To receive the new version, please re-download the title from your iTunes purchase history. Regards, iTunes Support Team

07-23-2014, 09:07 PM	#38
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	[QUOTE=jscoggins;9485564] [Show spoiler] [//QUOTE] Not quite a victory. It's still iTunes.

07-23-2014, 09:20 PM	#40
shamus Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Trading Score:25	ok... i see it now. had to paste your link in another window

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