Movies with Alternate and/or Variable Aspect Ratios - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

BasiliskFang · 12-01-2014, 12:17 PM

Robocop criterion DVD and remastered Blu are different

probedb · 12-01-2014, 01:21 PM

Friends was opened up not cropped! Just read some of the reviews, there's stuff at the side that was never meant to be seen because it was shot for 4:3 but at 16:9.

jscoggins · 12-01-2014, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by probedb

Friends was opened up not cropped! Just read some of the reviews, there's stuff at the side that was never meant to be seen because it was shot for 4:3 but at 16:9.

Okay, I'll dig more into this. Thanks!

Edit: I've updated the list to reflect your correction. Thanks again!

Davidian · 12-07-2014, 09:01 AM

Chinatown?

jscoggins · 12-07-2014, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Davidian

Chinatown?

In another thread, someone mentioned that the credits are in a different aspect ratio from the rest of the movie. I don't have a copy on hand to watch and provide more detail in the OP, though.

psperson · 12-12-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrob

Thanks for putting this all together. I got a little bit of extra info on this one

Brother Bear (2003)
Changes between windowboxed 1.75:1 and 2.40:1.

The DVD edition contained this version (OAR) and also had second disc with a 'family friendly' ratio of 1.66:1 (cropped at the sides)

IIRC, 1.66:1 is a favored format for animation in Europe (or parts of Europe). So some 1.66:1 versions might have been for the European market.

IIRC, I also read somewhere that B&W films are often produced with a requirement that a color version be done as well, for the European market.

As my German for Beginners book put it: Andere lander, andere sitten (umlauts ignored, I just don't recall where they go).

funkymonkey · 12-12-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

In another thread, someone mentioned that the credits are in a different aspect ratio from the rest of the movie. I don't have a copy on hand to watch and provide more detail in the OP, though.

They are not in a different aspect ratio as such... just have wide blacks edges which fade into the Academy shaped main titles.

jscoggins · 12-12-2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by funkymonkey

They are not in a different aspect ratio as such... just have wide blacks edges which fade into the Academy shaped main titles.

Okay, I'll remove it from the list. Thanks!

Drewbee87 · 12-26-2014, 05:04 AM

Underworld & Underworld Evolution have been shown open matte on tv. Underworld Evolution was also released open matte on HD DVD.

http://www.hd-dvd.poral.net/underworld_evolution.php

jscoggins · 12-26-2014, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Underworld & Underworld Evolution have been shown open matte on tv. Underworld Evolution was also released open matte on HD DVD.

http://www.hd-dvd.poral.net/underworld_evolution.php

A lot of movies are shown open matte on TV, but my list only includes official changes or alterations, approved by the directors.

Having said that, the changes to Underworld: Evolution are interesting.

Drewbee87 · 12-26-2014, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

A lot of movies are shown open matte on TV, but my list only includes official changes or alterations, approved by the directors.

Having said that, the changes to Underworld: Evolution are interesting.

Sorry, thought you meant in general.

And I haven't seen a lot of films have open matte ratios on TV. From my personal experience, 95% are just zoomed in & cropped. I watched Underworld open matte in full on HBO On Demand, it was AMAZING! A friend of mine told me about Evolution, seeing those caps makes me wish I had a HD DVD player... I love Underworld in it's OAR, but I would love to own the open matte version as an alternative.

jscoggins · 12-26-2014, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Sorry, thought you meant in general.

And I haven't seen a lot of films have open matte ratios on TV. From my personal experience, 95% are just zoomed in & cropped. I watched Underworld open matte in full on HBO On Demand, it was AMAZING! A friend of mine told me about Evolution, seeing those caps makes me wish I had a HD DVD player... I love Underworld in it's OAR, but I would love to own the open matte version as an alternative.

HD Goofnut started a thread about movies with altered aspect ratios.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=180163

jscoggins · 12-26-2014, 05:42 AM

Hm, upon reading through HD Goofnut's thread, I just discovered that Stuck in Love was 2.40:1 in theaters but 1.78:1 on BD.

Does anyone know if it's open matte or cropped?

Edit: It looks open matte and cropped.

HD Goofnut · 12-26-2014, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Hm, upon reading through HD Goofnut's thread, I just discovered that Stuck in Love was 2.40:1 in theaters but 1.78:1 on BD.

Does anyone know if it's open matte or cropped?

Edit: It looks open matte and cropped.

[Show spoiler]

It looks open matte to me.

Indiana Jones · 12-26-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

It looks open matte to me.

It is both, more on the top and bottom but less on the sides.

TheWildWhelk · 12-26-2014, 01:13 PM

Terminator 2 was shot on Super 35mm film, with the Theatrical version exhibited in a 2.35 aspect ratio and the original, full-screen VHS transfer opened up to a full 1.33. The Academy transfer has never been made available on dvd or BD as far as i know. Would be interesting to see how it compares visually...

Geoff D · 12-26-2014, 03:27 PM

T2 wasn't simply 'opened up' to 1.33, the movie was selectively reframed throughout as per all of Cameron's 4:3 transfers.

HD Goofnut · 12-26-2014, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

Terminator 2 was shot on Super 35mm film, with the Theatrical version exhibited in a 2.35 aspect ratio and the original, full-screen VHS transfer opened up to a full 1.33. The Academy transfer has never been made available on dvd or BD as far as i know. Would be interesting to see how it compares visually...

We will never see it. After Aliens Cameron decided that he liked the 2.39:1 ratio from Super 35mm better than the 1.85:1 ratio from standard 35mm. As a matter of fact the only reason Avatar is 1.78:1 is because of its IMAX exhibitions.

beckmen · 12-26-2014, 05:05 PM

I don't think it's available on BD, but More American Graffiti changes between 1.33, 1.85 and 2:35 I believe.

jscoggins · 12-26-2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beckmen

I don't think it's available on BD, but More American Graffiti changes between 1.33, 1.85 and 2:35 I believe.

Thanks!

IMDB says so as well.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079576/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

12-26-2014, 05:42 AM	#33
jscoggins Banned Top contributor Member since:Apr 2014 Trading Score:115	Hm, upon reading through HD Goofnut's thread, I just discovered that Stuck in Love was 2.40:1 in theaters but 1.78:1 on BD. Does anyone know if it's open matte or cropped? Edit: It looks open matte and cropped. Last edited by jscoggins; 12-26-2014 at 05:52 AM.

12-01-2014, 12:17 PM	#21
BasiliskFang Power Member Member since:Apr 2013 Blu-ray collection:472 DVD collection:290 Digital collection:1463 iTunes collection:5 Trading Score:127	Robocop criterion DVD and remastered Blu are different

12-01-2014, 01:21 PM	#22
probedb Member Member since:Sep 2009 Blu-ray collection:78	Friends was opened up not cropped! Just read some of the reviews, there's stuff at the side that was never meant to be seen because it was shot for 4:3 but at 16:9.

12-07-2014, 09:01 AM	#24
Davidian Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Perth 4K collection:94 Blu-ray collection:1985 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:12	Chinatown?

12-26-2014, 05:04 AM	#29
Drewbee87 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:266 Trading Score:7	Underworld & Underworld Evolution have been shown open matte on tv. Underworld Evolution was also released open matte on HD DVD. http://www.hd-dvd.poral.net/underworld_evolution.php

12-26-2014, 01:13 PM	#36
TheWildWhelk Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Elsinore Blu-ray collection:63 Blu-ray reviews:4	Terminator 2 was shot on Super 35mm film, with the Theatrical version exhibited in a 2.35 aspect ratio and the original, full-screen VHS transfer opened up to a full 1.33. The Academy transfer has never been made available on dvd or BD as far as i know. Would be interesting to see how it compares visually...

12-26-2014, 03:27 PM	#37
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	T2 wasn't simply 'opened up' to 1.33, the movie was selectively reframed throughout as per all of Cameron's 4:3 transfers.

12-26-2014, 05:05 PM	#39
beckmen Active Member Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Western New York Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:289 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:2	I don't think it's available on BD, but More American Graffiti changes between 1.33, 1.85 and 2:35 I believe.

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