EA Sports Rory McIlroy PGA Tour

[Thomas Veil]

Originally Posted by Kurri

Now if only everyone would take this stance!

That's just silly...it never works and if everybody did that there would be no game. They don't need to put it out. It's a small potatoes title to them. Only one that would lose out is fans of the game. You should thank some of us who do put out full price. It's what continues games.

[LucasEatWorld]

Yep, same here. Going to Best Buy when it opens to get my copy and play all day.

Seeing some of the EA Access footage and people playing it, the courses and atmosphere looks amazing, but the gameplay and some of the lacking features make me not as excited. The gameplay won't be able to touch TGC, but the graphics and customization of shirts, clubs, etc will be great. If only we could combine the two into a great game. Oh well...

[Ferris]

Originally Posted by moviedude 2K15

Just read the IGN review for the game and I've decided not to get it now. 5.5/10. Pretty pathetic amount of content in the game it sounds like. No thanks EA. I may grab it for $20 eventually used but that'll be it, I refuse to support EA when they strip a game of content so they won't see any $$$ from me. It'll be used if I even get it at all.

Here's the link to IGN's review:
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/07/1...&utm_content=1

Ouch. That's rough. It's a time of meeting deadlines at all costs, these days. Devs/Pubs will push out whatever is done at the release date, and then bug fix with patches, and add content with DLC.

Personally, I was reluctant to take the word of EA when they said future DLC will be free, but neglected to provide any details. I just chalk it up to poor project planning (potentially strategic planning too).

[Derb]

I'm confused as to why EA came back this year... Seems by the review, they should have either waited 1 more year or scrap Golf from their Sports games period.

[RJ MacReady]

I played this on the EA Access preview on my XB1 and liked the gameplay and graphics a lot. The number of courses and golfers is disappointing, but EA has said there'll be more coming via free DLC and they have also stated this won't be a yearly release, so no 2016 version, just updates to this game. That's why I decided to buy it.

[Harry Güchenschlong]

EA has to be wishing Tiger didn't suck these days, "Rory McIlroy" just doesn't roll off the tongue. Certainly harder to market than Tiger.

[Thomas Veil]

Originally Posted by Harry Güchenschlong

EA has to be wishing Tiger didn't suck these days, "Rory McIlroy" just doesn't roll off the tongue. Certainly harder to market than Tiger.

Sounds better than Jordan Speith lol

[Thomas Veil]

Originally Posted by moviedude 2K15

Just read the IGN review for the game and I've decided not to get it now. 5.5/10. Pretty pathetic amount of content in the game it sounds like. No thanks EA. I may grab it for $20 eventually used but that'll be it, I refuse to support EA when they strip a game of content so they won't see any $$$ from me. It'll be used if I even get it at all.

Here's the link to IGN's review:
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/07/1...&utm_content=1

If I have learned anything from reviews...especially first day reviews is that they often miss things and get things wrong. Is it going to be missing stuff..probably (first next gen title) but I like to make up my own mind. I'm not cash strapped so what the heck. I remember when TW14 came out it was bashed like crazy...now all you hear is it was a really good golf game...bah...internet opinions are helpful but only to a certain extent. I bet I'll enjoy it as I have enjoyed every other PGA title....you know, each one that started out with bad reviews.

[Thomas Veil]

Originally Posted by moviedude 2K15

No way in hell I'd be trusting EA that any DLC for it will be free. If they release a bunch of free content down the road for it I may get it but I'm not paying them now for a stripped down bare-bones game. EA skipped releasing a golf game last year so this is inexcusable, nobody should be giving them a pass on this. I give EA a triple bogey for this

eh..haters gotta hate. Welcome to the internet where people rip things before they even have it.

[TTBHG]

Originally Posted by Thomas Veil

I could see complaining about DLC like five years ago but it's such a common thing now I can't see the argument. I guess if your short funds and you don't like playing video game golf a lot then yeah complain I guess but for me I don't mind ...give me courses however you can get them to me. They are trying something new this year with updates and some free content (+DLC I think) I guess so we'll see how that pans out.

Your argument is wrong on several levels. One, last year, I believe, was the first year in a Tiger Woods game that required you to buy additional courses instead of being able to unlock them through xp. This has not been the norm for five years on this franchise.

Two, I do play golf games a lot but I have no interest in playing the same eight courses over and over and over as Miguel Jimenez at that.

Additionally, being a conscious consumer has nothing to do with "being short on funds". Many of the people on this board make a very good living.

[Kurri]

you really think EA would stop putting out golf games if people didn't buy the DLC? Or waited a few months for a price drop so the DLC matches the $60 price of the game?

Originally Posted by Thomas Veil

That's just silly...it never works and if everybody did that there would be no game. They don't need to put it out. It's a small potatoes title to them. Only one that would lose out is fans of the game. You should thank some of us who do put out full price. It's what continues games.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Thomas Veil

That's just silly...it never works and if everybody did that there would be no game. They don't need to put it out. It's a small potatoes title to them. Only one that would lose out is fans of the game. You should thank some of us who do put out full price. It's what continues games.

Originally Posted by Thomas Veil

eh..haters gotta hate. Welcome to the internet where people rip things before they even have it.

Game franchises are always going to have their loyal supporters, but these games aren't cheap, EA Sports aren't doing us any favours they're trying to sell as many copies as possible for as little effort as possible, it's their modus operandi with golf games and has been for nearly 25 years.

Buying something blindly for top money doesn't do anyone any favours, especially if it's an inferior product. EA have had one year off from golf, if they'd served their time productively they could have created a great game with worthwhile content, I don't think anyone would object paying release-week prices if they had. As a rule of thumb, people get tired of buying crap hoping for better crap next year. In this case you're actually getting less than usual.

On paper, the included content is enough for franchise veterans to wait for a price-drop or walk away completely. It sounds like a lazy game by a lazy developer, who doesn't really know what golf fans want. If it's the greatest game ever they're certainly selling it in small doses!

The main problem with PGA Tour games is there just isn't enough PGA Tour, not enough official tournaments, courses, players, clubs or player customization (remember when you could change your swing?), just think how extensive avatar creation is with other games. We're just not getting enough of the PGA Tour experience. I fully believe EA can make a great golf game (when you get to the course the gameplay is usually very good), the just don't want to, I'm surprised they paid all that money for Rory's endorsement. The budget could have been better utilized.

[RJ MacReady]

I get that people don't trust EA, after blunders like the Battlefield 4 launch, etc., but I'm not sure why they would flat-out lie about free DLC.

http://www.operationsports.com/news/...ntent-updates/

I bet they'll probably give us a mix of free DLC and then more substantial paid DLC. I could see them doing a Masters pack with Augusta.

I'm guessing the problem with PGA Tour is it's not like The Show where they just go to one or two organizations like the MLB and MLBPA to secure the licenses. I imagine every course is a separate agreement with whomever owns the course, the same thing with the individual pro golfers. I'm not saying it excuses the lackluster beginning roster, but if every golfer and/or course wants several thousand dollars in licensing fees, it doesn't make much sense for EA to shell out that kind of money for an unproven franchise reboot.

At this point it's a gamble for them. Did previous PGA Tour titles sell because of Tiger's name recognition or because people enjoyed the gameplay? (For me it was always the latter).

It's kinda how EA's football series is still called Madden after all these years though he has very little to do with it anymore. But would the game still sell if they started calling it EA Sports NFL Football 2016? Who knows.

Personally, I think the core gameplay of this new PGA Tour game is very good. So I'm supporting it with a purchase in hopes that they can build on the foundation, whether it's free DLC updates, paid DLC or a new installment down the road.

[dyne]

Originally Posted by RJ MacReady

I get that people don't trust EA, after blunders like the Battlefield 4 launch, etc., but I'm not sure why they would flat-out lie about free DLC.

Because the only free dlc will be colored shirts and balls. If that wasn't the case they would be upfront about it. No way in hell they'll give courses away for free. Maybe 1 or 2 for goodwill. That right there is everybody's issue.

[Nick At Now]

Man, the reviews are very underwhelming. I was really looking forward to this.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by RJ MacReady

I'm not saying it excuses the lackluster beginning roster, but if every golfer and/or course wants several thousand dollars in licensing fees, it doesn't make much sense for EA to shell out that kind of money for an unproven franchise reboot.

It depends on what they've licenced from the PGA Tour, I think the tour can use players and their likenesses to promote the tour, so you think an agreement could be carried over to the venues (it would be a step forward if they included all the TPC courses) and the players to go in the game? Some of the bigger players are going to want to have separate deals, but all that should be worked out before hand. If they can fill FIFA games with all the players, teams and venues that they do include then they should be able to do it with the PGA Tour. You could get some parties that aren't interested, we still haven't seen Titleist represented with their equipment, just shoes and the occasional baseball hat, but that might be down to Nike's involvement with the series.

I think the lack of content is all down to how they see the game and buyers expectations, they're buying short and selling us short too.

I think it's a shame that we never got to play a Tiger versus Phil head to head, or try our luck at a proper Grand Slam or Ryder Cup (with all the players' animations)!

[RJ MacReady]

Originally Posted by chip75

It depends on what they've licenced from the PGA Tour, I think the tour can use players and their likenesses to promote the tour, so you think an agreement could be carried over to the venues (it would be a step forward if they included all the TPC courses) and the players to go in the game? Some of the bigger players are going to want to have separate deals, but all that should be worked out before hand. If they can fill FIFA games with all the players, teams and venues that they do include then they should be able to do it with the PGA Tour. You could get some parties that aren't interested, we still haven't seen Titleist represented with their equipment, just shoes and the occasional baseball hat, but that might be down to Nike's involvement with the series.

I think the lack of content is all down to how they see the game and buyers expectations, they're buying short and selling us short too.

I think it's a shame that we never got to play a Tiger versus Phil head to head, or try our luck at a proper Grand Slam or Ryder Cup (with all the players' animations)!

Well, using The Show as an example again, I know that the MLBPA holds the license for ALL player's likenesses, so it's essentially just one license agreement: http://mlb.mlb.com/pa/info/licensing.jsp That's why you never see just one or two highly paid "star" players missing (I bet there'd be no A-Rod in The Show if they had to pay him individually).

I don't know much about soccer but I'd imagine FIFA has something similar. As far as I know PGA Tour only has the license to its own "brand," and the golfers are essentially "free agents" when it comes to using their likenesses.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by RJ MacReady

As far as I know PGA Tour only has the license to its own "brand," and the golfers are essentially "free agents" when it comes to using their likenesses.

It would be interesting to know what the situation is, I think they can use players for promotions like "These Guys Are Good", but how far that extends outside advertisements is another matter. In the past John Daly, Nick Faldo, Ernie Els along with Tiger have had their own games released. Sergio was used prominently with the Links game.

[wvuwhat]

Originally Posted by chip75

It would be interesting to know what the situation is, I think they can use players for promotions like "These Guys Are Good", but how far that extends outside advertisements is another matter. In the past John Daly, Nick Faldo, Ernie Els along with Tiger have had their own games released. Sergio was used prominently with the Links game.

Man, I loved that game. Didn't hurt that I played a lot of golf in real life at Westfields. That game was spot on in regards to that course.

[LucasEatWorld]

The putting is pretty bad in this game, but the visuals and most of the gameplay is pretty good. It's really growing on me. Although after a couple of weeks it's going to get pretty old playing the same courses and stuff. Hopefully they support the game for a while.