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Old 12-06-2007, 12:24 AM   #21
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you could make this case with almost any company. but being at blu-ray.com, microsoft is naturally one of the more hated companies.
It's hated at other places too.

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i think a lot of people forget how bad some of the ps1 and ps2 stuff were.
What stuff?

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none of the companies are doing things the way we think they should.
Companies are run by people, and people are not perfect. What's new?

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and i know vista will get thrown in here as the worst os ever. but obviously nobody remembers 95, 98, me, etc. at the release of all of their new os' there were tons of complaints, but as time went on. they got less buggy and more stable. the same is happening with vista right now.
Those who got rape by microcrap will hate microcrap, it's that simple. Who cares which os is worse.

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people are just too stubborn and blind to see.
They can see, that's why such a thread like this exist to begin with.

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all that being said, i've never liked microsoft.
I hope you're not a troll. Not saying you are.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:26 AM   #22
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i'm not sure i see a point to your response
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:29 AM   #23
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i'm not sure i see a point to your response
My point is, everything that you have said is stating the obvious.

Except the part about how bad some of the ps1 and ps2 "stuff" were.

That got to me, what stuff were you referring to?
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:38 AM   #24
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you could make this case with almost any company. but being at blu-ray.com, microsoft is naturally one of the more hated companies.

i think a lot of people forget how bad some of the ps1 and ps2 stuff were. none of the companies are doing things the way we think they should.

and i know vista will get thrown in here as the worst os ever. but obviously nobody remembers 95, 98, me, etc. at the release of all of their new os' there were tons of complaints, but as time went on. they got less buggy and more stable. the same is happening with vista right now. people are just too stubborn and blind to see.

all that being said, i've never liked microsoft.
I was burned by one of the early PS2's...the 360's failure rate only looks REAL bad because of how stable the PS3 has been..
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:39 AM   #25
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My point is, everything that you have said is stating the obvious.

Except the part about how bad some of the ps1 and ps2 "stuff" were.

That got to me, what stuff were you referring to?
the very 1st models of the PS2 were faulty...after the 1st wave, they were fine...I was a victim myself..

having said that....the 360 has 4 versions I think and all are equally as buggy...
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:43 AM   #26
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the very 1st models of the PS2 were faulty...after the 1st wave, they were fine...I was a victim myself..

having said that....the 360 has 4 versions I think and all are equally as buggy...
I own the very first PS2 model as well. It went odd on me and says "read disc error" or something like that. So yes, I also was a victim of that, but that's ok. That was easily dealt with. But Red ring of death? That issue goes on for ages. Even now it still does that.

First wave of PS2 were indeed faulty. That I admit.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:56 AM   #27
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you could make this case with almost any company. but being at blu-ray.com, microsoft is naturally one of the more hated companies.

i think a lot of people forget how bad some of the ps1 and ps2 stuff were. none of the companies are doing things the way we think they should.

and i know vista will get thrown in here as the worst os ever. but obviously nobody remembers 95, 98, me, etc. at the release of all of their new os' there were tons of complaints, but as time went on. they got less buggy and more stable. the same is happening with vista right now. people are just too stubborn and blind to see.

all that being said, i've never liked microsoft.
The main point here is not that we are Anti Microsoft but that Microsoft actually sucks. If anyone is being ignorant here it's the 360 owners who refuse to admit their system is a nothing but a over heating POS that M$ created just to push Windows into the home media center so that 10 years from now our HD TV's over heat and crash because they too are powered by windows. I know you think we are being bias but lets look at the facts here
1. The PS1 was virtually bug free all it's life cycle

2. The disc read errors were delt with and while bad were no where near the massive level of 360 failures

3. When the PS2's broke Sony fixed them for free (yes it took a near class action law suit but like you said no one is perfect) Microsoft still does not fix 360's they send you another one that will break again.

4. Sony is not buying companies off, charging people for every little thing (seriously gamer pics? Dashboard themes, demos? come on your getting raped)

and reguardless of a time frame M$ is just trying to trick it's already stupified adopters in to paying even more and liking the idea of it. I had a 360 11 of them in fact and after the way I was treated by them you think I am going to feel any different? As far as I am concerned the only people who are blind/ignorant are the 360 users who think there is nothing wrong with M$ or the 360.

oh and Win 95,98, and especially ME never got more stable they just got replaced and forced people to buy M$'s new more stable product. 95 still crashes every 10mins, 98 still uses cheese cloth for security, and ME was such a disaster no one even wants to remember it. It doesnt matter how you look at it Sony is no where near as bad as M$ and despite the fact I think they are trying to ruin gaming neither is Nintendo. Microsoft stands as one of the worst companies of our time, pushing their products and ideas with ignorant fans and a bank account big enough to make anything disappear. Outside of actually coming out and saying "Yes we are slowly but surely screwing all of our consumers, and trust us you wont care" they can't get much worse.

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Old 12-06-2007, 12:58 AM   #28
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I own the very first PS2 model as well. It went odd on me and says "read disc error" or something like that. So yes, I also was a victim of that, but that's ok. That was easily dealt with. But Red ring of death? That issue goes on for ages. Even now it still does that.

First wave of PS2 were indeed faulty. That I admit.
exactly...I heard they fixed the problem on the Halo 360 models...

when it gets the ring of death, it dies and resurrects itself with a halo above it and keeps running...

they call it the 2nd coming engine...I wish my PS3 could do that!!!

too bad I won't have to worry about mine dying..since I own a PS3...and not a rushed product...
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:02 AM   #29
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As far as I am concerned the only people who are blind/ignorant are the 360 users who think there is nothing wrong with M$ or the 360.
I think HD-DVD fan-boys fit right into that category as well.

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I heard they fixed the problem on the Halo 360 models...
Too bad from what I hear, not very many people like that model.

To be honest, I think the color itself looks like sh*t. Just in my opinion though. No big.

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Old 12-06-2007, 01:12 AM   #30
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Maybe he won't be as "lucky" as this guy..maybe..

http://loot-ninja.com/2007/12/05/fal...x-360-yes-8th/
Please...8 consoles? This guy's still got nothing on me (read sig) I still had some hope at number 8 only those of us who had 10 or more can truly call our self 1337!
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:22 AM   #31
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I think HD-DVD fan-boys fit right into that category as well.



Too bad from what I hear, not very many people like that model.

To be honest, I think the color itself looks like sh*t. Just in my opinion though. No big.
I was being sarcastic, though ahaha
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:25 AM   #32
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I was being sarcastic, though ahaha
Ouch, my bad.

So does this mean "they" never did fix it? No second coming engine?

That sucks even more. For them anyways.
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:27 AM   #33
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Talking There is the old joke about Microsoft.

A student pilot is flying around the Seattle area in his helicopter and gets lost when a mist rolls in, so he descends to see where he is.

He spots a building and shouts out to someone "Where am I?", the answer comes back "Where do you think you are?". Obviously he was hovering over the psychology ward of the Hospital.

A few minutes later he spots another building and asks the same question, the reply comes back "give me $500 and I'll tell you where you are!". Instantly he knew he was hovering at the Microsoft facility!!!
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:28 AM   #34
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The other, died due to cold temperature.
uh oh my 360 is right next to my window and my window has been open for like 2 weeks and is 50 degrees tops and like maybe 35 at night...i figured it would be better off cold then hot even though i dont use it hopefully it still works but i wont try to see anytime soon lol
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:30 AM   #35
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A student pilot is flying around the Seattle area in his helicopter and gets lost when a mist rolls in, so he descends to see where he is.

He spots a building and shouts out to someone "Where am I?", the answer comes back "Where do you think you are?". Obviously he was hovering over the psychology ward of the Hospital.

A few minutes later he spots another building and asks the same question, the reply comes back "give me $500 and I'll tell you where you are!". Instantly he knew he was hovering at the Microsoft facility!!!
That's pretty damn funny.

Nice one.
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:44 AM   #36
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MS may not be the best company in the world, but Sony isn't that great either... ever hear of rootkit?
yes i have and you know microsoft has gone on and gave a free root kit with every purchase of a Windows OS since 95'. YES THAT'S RIGHT Microsoft has a built in root kit to all windows OS's and there is nothing you can do about it at all except not use windows. other than that you will have a free root kit preinstalled on your computer.

SONY is not the only one who uses root kits.
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:53 AM   #37
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Ouch, my bad.

So does this mean "they" never did fix it? No second coming engine?

That sucks even more. For them anyways.
re-read my post..ahah
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re-read my post..ahah
I am so confuse right now.

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I just let my monthly subscription die. They make the payment by credit card mandatory because of people like me who give the information and hardly notice teh monthly charge. I realized the charge after they emailed me and wanted me to update my credit card information. That reminded me that I had originally given them my credit card, that they had been charging me for a year (monthly), and that I have played online perhaps 3 times over that period. All that equals, stuff it MS, I'll stick with my PS3 thank-you! 100 bucks could have filled up my car 1.23 times
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I'll never pay for XBL when I can do so much for free on PSN or the PC.
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