Hell or High Water (2016) - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

MagellanvsHimself · 10-09-2016, 03:49 PM

Call me crazy...but I'm afraid to buy anything on regular bluray anymore - part of me wonders why 4K discs aren't getting day one releases...and I'd rather not do double dips on new releases. I guess there's always the case that 4K isn't catching on...Ah, 1st world problems!

flyry · 10-11-2016, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MagellanvsHimself

Call me crazy...but I'm afraid to buy anything on regular bluray anymore - part of me wonders why 4K discs aren't getting day one releases...and I'd rather not do double dips on new releases. I guess there's always the case that 4K isn't catching on...Ah, 1st world problems!

I hear you but this would be an upscale anyway. But still

Lastyear · 10-11-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MagellanvsHimself

Call me crazy...but I'm afraid to buy anything on regular bluray anymore - part of me wonders why 4K discs aren't getting day one releases...and I'd rather not do double dips on new releases. I guess there's always the case that 4K isn't catching on...Ah, 1st world problems!

My son works at a big electronics store and he says they have sold very few 4K players. Most people are happy with their blu rays and don't want to upscale again-vhs to dvd-to blu ray.

Hoke Moseley · 10-12-2016, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Owl

Hell or High Water is an excellent film. This Blu-ray will be mine. Maybe not a day one purchase, but soon.

Same for me. Will definitely be buying it after the price drops.

GipsyDanger · 10-13-2016, 09:30 PM

I loved this movie, had to go a bit out of the way to see it in the theatres but I am so glad that I did. I really hope someone does a steelbook for it. The music they used was really well fitting too.

IroquoisPliskin · 10-18-2016, 04:14 AM

does anyone know why this isnt coming out on 4k UHD release?!

mdray · 11-09-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IroquoisPliskin

does anyone know why this isnt coming out on 4k UHD release?!

Not trolling, but maybe because it won't look any different to the blu-ray. I haven't seen one that does yet, though l haven't seen any side by side!

MassiveMovieBuff · 11-09-2016, 05:11 PM

Is this worth a blind buy for repeat viewings? I've heard nothing but great things about this movie and Jeff Bridges is one of my all time favorite actors.

dommie · 11-09-2016, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

Is this worth a blind buy for repeat viewings? I've heard nothing but great things about this movie and Jeff Bridges is one of my all time favorite actors.

I have seen a number of films this year and have only voted 5 out of 5 for two films so far; Hacksaw Ridge and Hell or High Water. In fact, there have been years when there were no 5 out of 5's for me. This is a definite day one purchase for me.

imsounoriginal · 11-09-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

Is this worth a blind buy for repeat viewings? I've heard nothing but great things about this movie and Jeff Bridges is one of my all time favorite actors.

Already seen it twice in theaters, yeah it's definitely worth it.

MassiveMovieBuff · 11-09-2016, 05:29 PM

Awesome! Sounds like day one for me too then. Thanks!

JG-havkroll · 11-09-2016, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mdray

Not trolling, but maybe because it won't look any different to the blu-ray. I haven't seen one that does yet, though l haven't seen any side by side!

Yes it will but if you don't have HDR or a top-notch quality setup, you're not taking full advantage of it.

Monterey Jack · 11-09-2016, 06:41 PM

The only movie I loved more than Hell Or High Water this year was Kubo & The Two Strings. I won't get this first-day, but I'll snap it up the second it hits my $9.99 threshold.

Paul.R.S · 11-10-2016, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mdray

Not trolling, but maybe because it won't look any different to the blu-ray. I haven't seen one that does yet, though l haven't seen any side by side!

This is of course problematic for a few reasons. You haven't mentioned what your gear is. We don't have calibration standards for UHD BD yet. From the Oblivion and Fury Road threads, I can see that there are obviously some issues with some UHD titles that arguably shouldn't exist. But saying 4k UHD titles "won't look any different to (sic) the blu-ray" is just not true.

Closer to the mark is that it somehow doesn't pencil out for Lionsgate to master a title for 4k UHD BD release that didn't gross "bigly." According to Box Office Mojo, the pic's budget was $12M and it grossed $27M. So it doesn't quite make sense. The movie was a critical success. Here's hoping that we're just in the middle of a six-month delay due to additional required HDR pass and mastering time and, especially with some awards season buzz, the pic will see a UHD BD in the spring. I've put in a message to Bill Hunt about this. If anyone hears something substantive on this, please post word.

Bates_Motel · 11-10-2016, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IroquoisPliskin

does anyone know why this isnt coming out on 4k UHD release?!

Because it was a small indie, and wouldn't sell enough on 4K. MOST movies won't be coming out on 4K, but people don't seem to grasp that yet.

asabreed · 11-10-2016, 05:20 PM

Saw it last night finally.

Enjoyed it, but by the end it felt cut short and slightly derivative to me narratively. Something others had also that I hoped wasn't the case.

Characters and the story weren't fleshed out enough mostly. I didn't care as much as the film went on. And I wanted to.

It was like it wanted to be both kind of a gunslinger exploitation thriller and also a nuanced drama. A cool combination for sure, but those two elements felt like they were pulling apart from each other rather than working together.

But the acting and lensing is definitely solid. And it's by far my favorite Ben Foster performance to date.

mdray · 11-11-2016, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

This is of course problematic for a few reasons. You haven't mentioned what your gear is. We don't have calibration standards for UHD BD yet. From the Oblivion and Fury Road threads, I can see that there are obviously some issues with some UHD titles that arguably shouldn't exist. But saying 4k UHD titles "won't look any different to (sic) the blu-ray" is just not true.

Closer to the mark is that it somehow doesn't pencil out for Lionsgate to master a title for 4k UHD BD release that didn't gross "bigly." According to Box Office Mojo, the pic's budget was $12M and it grossed $27M. So it doesn't quite make sense. The movie was a critical success. Here's hoping that we're just in the middle of a six-month delay due to additional required HDR pass and mastering time and, especially with some awards season buzz, the pic will see a UHD BD in the fall. I've put in a message to Bill Hunt about this. If anyone hears something substantive on this, please post word.

Hi.

I had a Sony 75" 94XD and I now have a 65" JS9500.

When I have done comparisons between the 4K and blu-rays of quite a few films I have been unable to spot any significant differences between them.
Exodus, Batman Vs Superman, Deadpool, to name a few.

I'm not saying it doesn't look good, just it's not that much better that I can see an obvious difference.

Paul.R.S · 11-11-2016, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dommie

I have seen a number of films this year and have only voted 5 out of 5 for two films so far; Hacksaw Ridge and Hell or High Water. In fact, there have been years when there were no 5 out of 5's for me. This is a definite day one purchase for me.

Right on--we have two of the same favorite pictures of the year. Just in from Hacksaw. Wow.

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Originally Posted by mdray

Hi.

I had a Sony 75" 94XD and I now have a 65" JS9500.

When I have done comparisons between the 4K and blu-rays of quite a few films I have been unable to spot any significant differences between them.
Exodus, Batman Vs Superman, Deadpool, to name a few.

I'm not saying it doesn't look good, just it's not that much better that I can see an obvious difference.

This isn't a display review thread so I'm reluctant to get "too deep" into the weeds here and therefore didn't click and read deeply re those two displays. But it appears that you went from a newer set to an older one (2015?)? And the older one isn't HDR-capable--(at least this [not very positive] CNET review of the latter didn't even mention it)?

Just suggesting that HDR implementation in one's display is going to be key in maximizing UHD BD PQ.

Just from my reading, I'm most skeptical about your saying that there's purportedly little to no difference between the 1080 and 4k BDs of Deadpool. That disc was a major priority/HDR showcase title for the Fox Innovation Lab.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/tags/sh...innovation-lab

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The short version is this: the Ultra HD Blu-ray absolutely CRUSHES the Blu-ray in side-by-side comparisons. To be fair, this effect wanes slightly in A-to-B comparisons with any sort of time delay, so don't feel too bad if you haven't upgraded yet. But side-by-side? Shoot. This is the release the earlier adopters have been waiting for. The Ultra HD offers deeper black levels, more vivid colors (hello, red!), and oodles of added highlight and CGI detail. I was really impressed.

DEADPOOL director says HDR is the real killer feature for 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray

StingingVelvet · 11-11-2016, 09:45 PM

To be fair the difference is going to depend eyesight, TV and room size, settings, the movie, calibration and a ton of other things. The upgrade being worth it is going to be a vastly subjective thing, just like DVD to BD was, as baffling as that is to me.

And that's before we even begin on how divisive HDR can be.

ArmyOfDarknessAW · 11-11-2016, 10:13 PM

I can not stop listening to the amazing score to this movie. It is getting me excited to see this movie again...i LOVED it.

10-09-2016, 03:49 PM	#21
MagellanvsHimself Senior Member Member since:May 2013 4K collection:98 Blu-ray collection:335	Call me crazy...but I'm afraid to buy anything on regular bluray anymore - part of me wonders why 4K discs aren't getting day one releases...and I'd rather not do double dips on new releases. I guess there's always the case that 4K isn't catching on...Ah, 1st world problems!

10-13-2016, 09:30 PM	#25
GipsyDanger Senior Member Member since:Apr 2014 Blu-ray collection:325 DVD collection:593 Trading Score:31	I loved this movie, had to go a bit out of the way to see it in the theatres but I am so glad that I did. I really hope someone does a steelbook for it. The music they used was really well fitting too.

10-18-2016, 04:14 AM	#26
IroquoisPliskin Expert Member Member since:Mar 2013 Trading Score:1	does anyone know why this isnt coming out on 4k UHD release?!

11-09-2016, 05:11 PM	#28
MassiveMovieBuff Blu-ray Count Member since:Apr 2014 4K collection:412 Blu-ray collection:1630 DVD collection:97 Trading Score:3	Is this worth a blind buy for repeat viewings? I've heard nothing but great things about this movie and Jeff Bridges is one of my all time favorite actors.

11-09-2016, 05:29 PM	#31
MassiveMovieBuff Blu-ray Count Member since:Apr 2014 4K collection:412 Blu-ray collection:1630 DVD collection:97 Trading Score:3	Awesome! Sounds like day one for me too then. Thanks!

11-09-2016, 06:41 PM	#33
Monterey Jack Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Oct 2011 Trading Score:709	The only movie I loved more than Hell Or High Water this year was Kubo & The Two Strings. I won't get this first-day, but I'll snap it up the second it hits my $9.99 threshold.

11-10-2016, 05:20 PM	#36
asabreed Special Member Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Pittsburgh 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1323 DVD collection:77 Trading Score:62	Saw it last night finally. Enjoyed it, but by the end it felt cut short and slightly derivative to me narratively. Something others had also that I hoped wasn't the case. Characters and the story weren't fleshed out enough mostly. I didn't care as much as the film went on. And I wanted to. It was like it wanted to be both kind of a gunslinger exploitation thriller and also a nuanced drama. A cool combination for sure, but those two elements felt like they were pulling apart from each other rather than working together. But the acting and lensing is definitely solid. And it's by far my favorite Ben Foster performance to date.

11-11-2016, 09:45 PM	#39
StingingVelvet Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Philadelphia, PA 4K collection:849 Blu-ray collection:2329 DVD collection:111 Digital collection:12 Trading Score:69	To be fair the difference is going to depend eyesight, TV and room size, settings, the movie, calibration and a ton of other things. The upgrade being worth it is going to be a vastly subjective thing, just like DVD to BD was, as baffling as that is to me. And that's before we even begin on how divisive HDR can be.

11-11-2016, 10:13 PM	#40
ArmyOfDarknessAW Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Moosic, PA Home Theater Gallery:21 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:64	I can not stop listening to the amazing score to this movie. It is getting me excited to see this movie again...i LOVED it.

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