Snoke from the Force Awakens

[Zippyfan]

what if Snoke is Plagieus. Kylo wants to finish what Vader started (bringing people back to life), and is promised by snoke that if he kills his father, the force could bring him back to life......Solo in episode 9 then??

Sorry thats my ClickBait theory

[reaperx187]

They explain alot about Snoke in the Star Wars: Aftermath book here's an article to explain a little about it.

https://moviepilot.com/posts/3733591

[ChainsawJedi]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

The real question:

Why would Plagueis, 30 years after Palpatine and Vader are dead, be using a fake name.

He's not plagueis. In fact, I'm almost positive that the leak about Snoke being the original Dark Side user is accurate, and Rey is the reincarnation of the original light side user, Snokes sister. Cause hot damn that just makes a LOT more sense.

How does she know the island? Because she's BEEN there. Maybe she even died there. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than "Luke put it in her head then left her on a random planet because movie."

If this is true then it would be the first time that reincarnation has featured in Star Wars. I'm really not sure that the makers of these new films want to go that far out there but if they do it would certainly be a brave move.

[ChainsawJedi]

Originally Posted by Zippyfan

what if Snoke is Plagieus. Kylo wants to finish what Vader started (bringing people back to life), and is promised by snoke that if he kills his father, the force could bring him back to life......Solo in episode 9 then??

Sorry thats my ClickBait theory

I don't think Kylo wants to bring people back to life. Anakin's downfall was attachment to those he loved which meant he couldn't bear to lose them through death. I don't believe the writers are so lazy as to burden Kylo with the same weakness as his grandfather. When says he will finish what Vader started, I always felt that he meant bring balance to the Force. Prophecies can be misread; Snoke could easily have twisted the prophecy of the chosen one as being about someone who will bring balance to the Force by wiping out the Jedi.

[BLUEGRASS]

Snoke is

[Show spoiler]Mace Windu

[elecrofunk]

Scooby Doo

[TheCoon]

Ezra Bridger (Rebels)

[Cremildo]

How could Snoke be Anakin if he's dead? We saw his "ghost" form in RotJ. Dunno why that option is in the poll.

I'm no SW expert, but I think he's either a wholly new character or Darth Plagueis.

[Rodney-2187]

I wonder if we will ever find out?

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Cremildo

How could Snoke be Anakin if he's dead? We saw his "ghost" form in RotJ. Dunno why that option is in the poll.

I'm no SW expert, but I think he's either a wholly new character or Darth Plagueis.

He can't be Plagueis, Plagueis was a Sith Lord, Snoke is not.

[BluBonnet]

I can't believe it didn't dawn on me until the ending of TLJ... Snoke is Voldemort, and the little kid at the end of TLJ with the broom is Harry Potter's long-lost brother, who is going to use that broom to become a Quidditch master.

[Porco Azzurro]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

He can't be Plagueis, Plagueis was a Sith Lord, Snoke is not.

They’ve said Snoke is not a Sith. They haven’t said the character calling himself Snoke was never a Sith in the past, as far as I am aware.

It wouldn’t be the first time in Star Wars a Sith or Jedi turned their backs on their club membership!

[Roonan]

The Sith were destroyed in Return of the Jedi, as foretold in the Chosen One prophecy. Then again, Disney doesn't seem to be one that respects what was established in the previous movies or the guy who created this fictional universe, so who knows what they might do or deem Snoke (erm.. Palpatine wannabe) to be.

[Porco Azzurro]

Originally Posted by Roonan

The Sith were destroyed in Return of the Jedi, as foretold in the Chosen One prophecy.

Yeah, but that's long after Plagueis would have stopped being a Sith if he renounced them after Palpatine tried to kill him (and maybe succeeded, from a certain point of view...).

"It's possible". That's all I'm saying.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by Porco Azzurro

Yeah, but that's long after Plagueis would have stopped being a Sith if he renounced them after Palpatine tried to kill him (and maybe succeeded, from a certain point of view...).

In that assumption, Palpatine didn't kill him. If he didn't kill him, that makes him not only incompetent but careless, which goes against his character.

Originally Posted by Porco Azzurro

"It's possible". That's all I'm saying.

Indeed. It's sadly very possible, and their disregard for what came before proves it.

[Porco Azzurro]

Originally Posted by Roonan

In that assumption, Palpatine didn't kill him. If he didn't kill him, that makes him not only incompetent but careless, which goes against his character.

That’s one way of looking at it. But I disagree. As Luke identified, and was proved correct, his overconfidence was his weakness. He could have wrongly assumed Plagueis was gone. Plagueis was trying to cheat death. That is still one of, if not the, key piece of information we got about Palpatine/Sidious’ master. It doesn’t necessarily make Sidious incompetent or careless if Plagueis managed to stay around in some form and managed to hide from his would-be killer apprentice.

In a way, I think there’d be a beautiful symmetry to Palpatine’s overconfidence as Galactic Emperor if it turned out he had failed due to overconfidence at the inception of his rise to power, just as at its demise.

I think whoever Snoke is, the idea there was this powerful dark sider watching Palpatine’s Empire rise and fall then stepping in to take over is a fascinating one, and I certainly hope there is more to the story revealed in Episode IX. I would personally feel a little disatisfied with Snoke as a character in the sequel trilogy if we don’t learn anything more significant about what his whole deal was by the end of it. They have set up so much, too much I think, to not have some kind of pay-off, even if it is only a scene or two.

[Batman1980]

Sometimes a dead idiot is just a dead idiot.

[ChainsawJedi]

We do know one thing: Andy Serkis was talking out of his back passage when he claimed Snoke to be more evil than the Emperor.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by Porco Azzurro

That’s one way of looking at it. But I disagree. As Luke identified, and was proved correct, his overconfidence was his weakness. He could have wrongly assumed Plagueis was gone. Plagueis was trying to cheat death. That is still one of, if not the, key piece of information we got about Palpatine/Sidious’ master. It doesn’t necessarily make Sidious incompetent or careless if Plagueis managed to stay around in some form and managed to hide from his would-be killer apprentice.

Another key piece of information is that he was killed in his sleep and the irony (for a Sith) of the ability to save others but not himself. If you're implying that Sidious wasn't able to make sure he was killed while he was sleeping, then yes, it does make him incompetent. If you're assuming that Sidious lied with the way he was killed, then you're putting the whole story in question as well.

Plagueis was killed. As a Sith, he wouldn't allow someone to take his place while he was alive. That's the way of the Sith. Kill the Master and take an apprentice. The Sith can't retain their identity after death (unlike a Jedi), so he can't show up that way either. And there's no reason to assume he would suddenly abandon the ways of the Sith. Under what premiss? Sith are attached to power. Plagueis' quest for cheating death is about that.

[ChainsawJedi]

One need only appreciate the most basic teachings of Buddhism to understand what George Lucas was writing about with regards to attachment of self and the (surprisingly) contentious issue of midichlorians to appreciate the difference twixt Sith and Jedi. Ergo, the Sith are so attached to their own needs and (what we call) "the self-deceiving I" that they have no regard for the needs of others whereas the Jedi are (supposedly) in tune with every living creature, right down to the microscopic bacteria that float around in the blood streams of all living beings.

If you're in tune with all living beings, then you are in tune with the Force.

I never did understand why so many fans had a problem with this.