Sony's Marvel Universe

[Mike1981]

Hopefully they go the Incredible Hulk route and just start with Venom already established and operating on his own.

[Mike1981]

How is Wolverine less tied to the X-Men?

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by Mike1981

How is Wolverine less tied to the X-Men?

Wolverine is a loner and didn't even join X-Men until 1975. It's not like Venom where his origins are literally tied to Spider-Man.

[Mike1981]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Wolverine is a loner and didn't even join X-Men until 1975. It's not like Venom where his origins are literally tied to Spider-Man.

Hey was created in 1974 and waited all the way until 1975 before joining the X-Men. I see your point...

[CyberpunkCentral]

To those who think adding Venom in The Avengers: Infinity War is a bad idea, I'm talking about just the symbiote suit itself. Not the character of Eddie Brock. The symbiote suit can just be an upgrade of Spidey's suit that Tony Stark created, by using the material he got from space. Which makes sense since The Avengers: Infinity War will partly take place in space after all. They don't have to touch upon about how symbiote suit has a mind of it's own or Spidey losing control over it until the Spider-Man: Homecoming sequels. This makes way more sense than all of the ideas you guys are throwing around about the Venom movie, yet adding the symbiote suit in The Avengers Infinity War is a bad idea? lol, okay.

Originally Posted by Mike1981

He was created in 1974 and waited all the way until 1975 before joining the X-Men. I see your point...

That's weird. I could have sworn Wolverine was created in the late 60s. Dammit, brain!

[Mike1981]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

That's weird. I could have sworn Wolverine was created in the late 60s. Dammit, brain!

No worries; just being snarky.

It's hard for me to agree the Venom is any more tied to Spider-Man than Wolverine is to the X-Men.

Outside of his origin, he's had enough solo stories where he functioned as much outside the Spider-Verse as Wolverine has. I still think Wolverine is strictly an X-Man as much as Venom is strictly a Spider-Man villain.

[captveg]

The best way to approach this is to do it like the MCU TV shows - get Marvel to sign off on them being able to reference the regular MCU movie series, but knowing that nothing that happens in the Sony Marvel series will get brought over or even referenced in the regular Disney MCU series.

[thunderforce]

This is dumb . The whole reason for putting Spiderman in the MCU is because with all the characters together they can team up and the movies will make more money . Not sure people will pay a lot for a tiny universe of Spiderman support characters when they will know they are not in the MCU . Sony should either be in or be out , to try and do both at the same time is not going to work .

[CyberpunkCentral]

Honestly, I would perfectly okay with this if Sony does a Venom movie with Flash Thompson, while Marvel does Eddie Brock instead. Flash Thompson doesn't even look like Flash Thompson in the MCU, so might as well have a different version of the character in the Sony Desperate Universe.

[MattJ1991]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Honestly, I would perfectly okay with this if Sony does a Venom movie with Flash Thompson, while Marvel does Eddie Brock instead. Flash Thompson doesn't even look like Flash Thompson in the MCU, so might as well have a different version of the character in the Sony Desperate Universe.

At this point this is the one thing they could announce that would get me interested in this. I can see an R rating really helping, as we could see a brutal way for Flash

[Show spoiler]to lose his legs

while in the Army. Plus it sounds like they want to make this into a horror/thriller style film and there are many times in the comic when Flash loses control or wants to lose control, and they have an opportunity to make that very intense.

[CyberpunkCentral]

I don't think it's really necessary to make Venom rated-R. I could see Flash Thompson's Venom being rated-R, though. Not because he's more violent than Eddie Brock, but because it would fit the style of what that film is going for. That is if they go with Flash Thompson anyway. From the comics I have read, Eddie Brock's Venom isn't even all that bad at all. He just has pure hatred for Spider-Man, but is also willing to save people when he can. There is just nothing R-rated about that. Even some fans greatly exaggerate how R-rated Deadpool is in the comics. But I'm a bit open with the R-rating, since they did say they wanted to make a horror/thriller with Venom. So might as well go all out. Unlike Marvel Studios who says they are making this film or that into that genre, but they never go full out with it. They still feel like formulaic superhero movies.

[ArrestedDevelopment]

At this point Sony is beyond desperate. They're like monkeys, flinging their feces (ideas) at the wall and seeing what sticks.