Get Out (2017 | 4K UHD) - September 18, 2017

[Viking61]

[GasmaskAvenger]

I have a feeling the 4K disc is an HMV exclusive, so us Americans are shit out of luck.

[DJJez]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

I have a feeling the 4K disc is an HMV exclusive, so us Americans are shit out of luck.

doesnt say anywhere that it is on the HMV site

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

I have a feeling the 4K disc is an HMV exclusive, so us Americans are shit out of luck.

What's this feeling based upon? Is there precedent for Universal doing HMV exclusives in the UK?

If so, can anyone comment on whether there is precedent for HMV in Canada (despite being a separate entity sayeth Wikipedia) having those exclus also?

In any event, although pricey, I've seen so many imports pop up on US Amazon Marketplace. Unless you'd care to edify further, I don't think US buyers wanting the UHD BD would be SOL.

[Neutron82]

love that artwork, I definitely want this but I hope they use the same artwork on a steelbook at some point

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DJJez

doesnt say anywhere that it is on the HMV site

http://store.hmv.com/film-tv/4k-ultr...lu-ray/get-out

[UpsetSmiley]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

http://store.hmv.com/film-tv/4k-ultr...lu-ray/get-out

It doesn't say it's an exclusive though. But it is somewhat strange it isn't listed elsewhere.

[Neutron82]

looks like france is getting it too so it's good to see it's not an hmv exclusive

http://video.fnac.com/a10719919/Get-...omnsearchpos=2

[TM2-Megatron]

Truly bizarre that North Americans have got to import this and Split . What makes these different from other Universal distributed titles, and where should my complaint e-mail be directed?

[Kschreck]

Originally Posted by TM2-Megatron

Truly bizarre that North Americans have got to import this and Split . What makes these different from other Universal distributed titles, and where should my complaint e-mail be directed?

America is heading toward becoming third world now. All of our Wal-Marts are mostly DVD only with a very tiny amount of Blu-Rays.

[GasmaskAvenger]

Yay! France coming to the rescue.

[Paul.R.S]

That HMV link is helpful insofar as it includes the UPC. I'll keep checking for that to populate to US Amazon.

Originally Posted by TM2-Megatron

Truly bizarre that North Americans have got to import this and Split . What makes these different from other Universal distributed titles, and where should my complaint e-mail be directed?

The international arm of a studio/whoever the rights holder is in a "foreign" territory often make(s) their own, autonomous decisions regarding home vid releases, likely including UHD BD support (or not). So even if you get someone in US USHE to stoop to reply to your e-mail or letter, they'd likely just say that the they have nothing to do with the/a UK release and their decisions don't impact Stateside.

[film11]

Originally Posted by TM2-Megatron

Truly bizarre that North Americans have got to import this and Split . What makes these different from other Universal distributed titles, and where should my complaint e-mail be directed?

It's the same deal with 3d...Universal titles like Seventh Son and The Great Wall can only be obtained via import. Since both 3d and UHD formats don't sell well, not all titles are going to be available.

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Yay! France coming to the rescue.

The penchant for vagueness continues.
I see nothing in the database about a 4K UHD BD release in France. Do you have some concrete word of this from somewhere else? Or are you referring to the French Steelbook (which appears to not be UHD)?

[Neutron82]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

The penchant for vagueness continues. I see nothing in the database about a 4K UHD BD release in France. Do you have some concrete word of this from somewhere else? Or are you referring to the French Steelbook (which appears to not be UHD)?

did you not click on the link I posted a few posts up??

[UpsetSmiley]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

The penchant for vagueness continues.
I see nothing in the database about a 4K UHD BD release in France. Do you have some concrete word of this from somewhere else? Or are you referring to the French Steelbook (which appears to not be UHD)?

It's only recently been announced so it'll take some time for the database to be updated.

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by Neutron82

did you not click on the link I posted a few posts up??

I had not then but have now. My oversight--apologies. Hopefully that will get added to the site db soon.

Originally Posted by film11

Since both 3d and UHD formats don't sell well, not all titles are going to be available.

A quibble to some, but I think a significant diff complicating the 3D analogy is that, according to some in terms of software support, 3D 1080 BD is closer to the end of its lifecycle (because HDR is the new hotness?) whereas 4K UHD BD is closer to the beginning. With the caveat that the studios aren't in the business of having their software used to drive hardware sales (unless we're referring to failed Sony philosophies of vertical and horizontal integration), there's an argument to be made that more content rather than less helps grow the market for a "new" format.

[Neutron82]

no reason to apologize, just making sure you saw that

[film11]

Originally Posted by Paul.R.S

A quibble to some, but I think a significant diff complicating the 3D analogy is that, according to some in terms of software support, 3D 1080 BD is closer to the end of its life-cycle (because HDR is the new hotness?) whereas 4K UHD BD is closer to the beginning. With the caveat that the studios aren't in the business of having their software used to drive hardware sales (unless we're referring to failed Sony philosophies of vertical and horizontal integration), there's an argument to be made that more content rather than less helps grow the market for a "new" format.

With 3D disc releases still coming (not just studio but more classic titles as well) and theatrical movies like Wonder Woman, Dr Strange, Guardians 2 (fantastic in 3D, just "meh" in 2D, and a 4K disc can't change that), etc. getting 43% - 54% domestic grosses from 3D, I wouldn't say it's at the end of a life-cycle. Yes, the push is to stick to flat, same-old 2D (albeit with artificial coloring) on the hardware side this year but don't be surprised if it returns in 2018. I'd call it more of a lull than an end-of-life cycle.

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by film11

With 3D disc releases still coming (not just studio but more classic titles as well) and theatrical movies like Wonder Woman, Dr Strange, Guardians 2 (fantastic in 3D, just "meh" in 2D, and a 4K disc can't change that), etc. getting 43% - 54% domestic grosses from 3D, I wouldn't say it's at the end of a life-cycle. Yes, the push is to stick to flat, same-old 2D (albeit with artificial coloring) on the hardware side this year but don't be surprised if it returns in 2018. I'd call it more of a lull than an end-of-life cycle.

FWIW I disagree with your analysis and think your "fatal flaw" is something that, although historically reliable, has been shattered in recent years: Namely, the relationship between theatrical b.o. and home vid units sold.

I don't question what you're saying about high profile theatrical 3D releases and the high percentage 3D reps of grosses (although there is a debate about 3D monopolizing the biggest screens during prime show times and higher 3D ticket prices skewing the numbers and thereby creating an inaccurate picture of purported 3D popularity). Where we diverge is on the issue of whether the theatrical marketplace is dispositive as to what is happening/is going to happen in home vid spaces.

One need look not much further than the hue and cry on this forum in the threads bemoaning Disney's failure to release Stateside 3D BDs of big grossing, popular 3D theatricals such as Big Hero 6 (a $222M grosser) and Pete's Dragon.

The studios and exhibbers don't control the c.e. manufs. Those are three overlapping but in many ways discrete businesses. And regardless of what is going on theatrically, LG, Sony, Vizio and Hisense have all abandoned 3D support in their 2017 displays. The "prevailing" sentiment seems to be that it is being done to instead support HDR. Never mind the fact that there is nothing inherently antithetical about 3D and HDR. That absence of logic brings me right back to not sharing your higher expectations.

The only Big Wild Card I see is: WTF is Jim Cameron going to do when Avatar 2 hits UHD after 3D has played such a huge role in the production and success of these films. More sauce for the goose: His huge partner in 3D "crime" on the first film, Panasonic, has completely exited the North American display business since the first Avatar. Is Panasonic Hollywood Lab going to again author 3D Avatar BDs when there is no upside in the form of an exclusivity window during which they bundle the BDs with their hardware? Staying tuned here--gonna be interesting. But I'm not expecting some vinyl-esque 'rise of the phoenix' here for home 3D.