Disney Classics Limited Collector's Edition Boxset

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Jim Collins

If it had made less money, it would have been more beloved. That's frustrating. Every single film that becomes a "phenomenon" with a huge box office success and buzz around it, people immediately start hating it (Titanic).

If people hadn't been inundated with endless videos of little kids singing "Let It Go" on social media, I think people would be more kind to it. Sort of like an inoffensive commercial or song which is fine the first you see or hear it...but then it's overplayed and over-saturated and gets on your nerves.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Jim Collins

I believe that the "accepting yourself" message of the film is more powerful than the family one, to which many people can relate to. Believing in you, accepting your difference (every person on this planet is different than the next one) and "letting go" of the people who judge you is powerful and both women & men (relate to it) & like this film, but of course, there are exceptions.

But that "be yourself" message is so overdone in feature animation, it's almost banal.

[shinobipopcorn]

People should have been praising Tangled the way they praised Frozen.

My first exposure to the film was actually while I was in Japan (they actually had sing along showings ), and I'm kind of grateful I wasn't here in the US for our theatrical showing. It was hard enough enduring all the bounceback when the movie hit DVD. Olaf toys for months, then every other girl was Elsa or Anna at Halloween.

[Ernest Rister]

Not that Rotten Tomatoes is a valid way to measure general audience preference, but Tangled and Frozen have identical RT scores (89%), Moana has a 96% rating.

[GreatGreg]

I did not care much for any of those.

They were all good, but would not call them great.

My Disney favourites are BAMBI, THE LITTLE MERMAID, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and ALADDIN.

THE LION KING was good, but totally predictable and I've seen that store 100 times before.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by GreatGreg

I did not care much for any of those.

They were all good, but would not call them great.

My Disney favourites are BAMBI, THE LITTLE MERMAID, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and ALADDIN.

THE LION KING was good, but totally predictable and I've seen that store 100 times before.

The Lion King is very similar to Bambi, with the exception of the Hamlet infusion. Animators jokingly called it, "Hambi".

[shinobipopcorn]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Not that Rotten Tomatoes is a valid way to measure general audience preference, but Tangled and Frozen have identical RT scores (89%), Moana has a 96% rating.

RT scores are so weird. Like the Lion King sequels for instance, #2's low score comes from 6 "professional" review sites I've never heard of, 4 of which criticize the film for either being predictable or being a cash grab. 1.5 however got more positive reviews from critics for being a fun romp but a more realistic 61% from the audience.

As for classic movies like Bambi, reading some of the modern critics reviews is a riot. "The bogus art which has been creeping into the Disney pictures is really hammered at you in this one." Okay... "Bambi is . . . MALE?!"

[Jim Collins]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

But that "be yourself" message is so overdone in feature animation, it's almost banal.

I don't think it was back in 2013. Maybe it is now, but it's still a powerful message most people need.

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Not that Rotten Tomatoes is a valid way to measure general audience preference, but Tangled and Frozen have identical RT scores (89%), Moana has a 96% rating.

That's another topic, but I feel like Roten Tommatoes' scores are unfair nowadays. For example, Moana (which didn't even win an oscar) has a 96% rating and it's definetely not as good as Frozen, Beauty and the Beast (93%), or even The Lion King (92%)! Furthermore, Zootopia has a 98% score, and even though I love it, it definetely doesn't deserve the title of the "highest rated Disney movie of all time"!

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Jim Collins

I don't think it was back in 2013. Maybe it is now, but it's still a powerful message most people need.

It was already a cliche by the time Tarzan was released in 1999.

That's another topic, but I feel like Roten Tommatoes' scores are unfair nowadays. For example, Moana (which didn't even win an oscar) has a 96% rating and it's definetely not as good as Frozen, Beauty and the Beast (93%), or even The Lion King (92%)! Furthermore, Zootopia has a 98% score, and even though I love it, it definetely doesn't deserve the title of the "highest rated Disney movie of all time"!

I love Zootopia. I'd rank it higher than Frozen.

[shinobipopcorn]

Highest rated? Are they going to ignore Pinocchio's 100%?

[Jim Collins]

Originally Posted by shinobipopcorn

Highest rated? Are they going to ignore Pinocchio's 100%?

You're right, I totally forgot Pinocchio's score
"Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" also has a 98% score, along with "Zootopia".
Pinocchio definetely doens't deserve a 100% score, IMHO

[shinobipopcorn]

Originally Posted by Jim Collins

You're right, I totally forgot Pinocchio's score
"Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" also has a 98% score, along with "Zootopia".
Pinocchio definetely doens't deserve a 100% score, IMHO

You're right, Fantasia deserves it for inventing surround sound. But I feel bad for Dumbo, who has only one negative critic review basically calling it practice animation. Little guy can't get a break...