Official 2018 Sony X900F TV series, 49", 55", 65", 75" and 85"

[jibucha]

as i understand it :: Sony has been quite clear that neither the X1 nor the X1 Extreme processors are technically capable of supporting the Dolby Vision 'full profile'

what i find interesting is whether the announced 900F Series might have the capability (via the Dolby Vision chipset) or not

furthermore, Sony will be announcing their full 2018 line up in March 2018, which might just be quite interesting (thus far, only the 900F Series and the OLED A8F have been announced :: certainly more is yet to come)

Originally Posted by gkolb

Robert, I don't know if I'm interpreting some of your above comments correctly.
Did you say the 2018 Sony X-1 Extreme chips will support BOTH low latency and full profile DoVi on displays?

If so, will this be backwards compatible with the Z9D and the 930e and 940e?

Has Sony had a change in heart?

[Nothing371]

Sony hasn't been quite clear about anything.

[amoergosum]

Review: Sony X900F (XF90):

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review....&id=1519270866

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

Review: Sony X900F (XF90):

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review....&id=1519270866

Christ, they're spreading a whole load of FUD with that "Why hollywood hates you" article about 4K Disc. You'd think that these guys actually WANT this format to fail! Left a few comments, heh.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Christ, they're spreading a whole load of FUD with that "Why hollywood hates you" article about 4K Disc. You'd think that these guys actually WANT this format to fail! Left a few comments, heh.

I vote Geoff for President!

But seriously with your knowledge and insight, I'm surprised you are not somehow active in the industry.

[Geoff D]

I've got all the theory but none of the practice and besides, opinions are like buttholes etc etc. But given what I've read just over the last couple of days it's REALLY grinding my gears as to how much sheer ignorance is out there regarding 4K UHD, it seems like the trickle of FUD has become a torrent and all those articles and reviews and websites are doing is providing the confirmation bias for the fence-sitters (of which there are many) to avoid getting into 4K entirely or write off HDR as "Smoke, mirrors, marketing" (© RAH) or just to buy "real" 4K titles or whatever. Maybe I should change my user name to UHD Evangelist or something and become the Billy Graham of the UHD world!

[Vangeli]

Wow, it's kind of a downgrade compared to my two year-old Vizio. Less than half the FALD zones and HDR peaks are only barely brighter.

Still love the stand design, though. I wonder how many zones are in the 85" version.

[rroeder]

Yeah but Geoff your a 1%'er with your knowledge, expecting the avg home theater fan like myself to understand all that is not reasonable. I have to say I agree with the article's comment about the studio's business practices they Fing suck!

So am I correct that the current Sony models that were supposed to get DV thru HDMI will not but these newer 2018 models will(not the low latency nonsense which I still do not understand)??

I have been eyeing a 940E for awhile was VERY close to buying a few weeks back glad I didn't now!

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

Review: Sony X900F (XF90):

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review....&id=1519270866

thanks for posting this review of the 900F, I read the whole thing.

My only surprising takeaway is that the 900F was measured to have 60 dimming zones compared to the estimated 20-45 zones on the 900E, and 72 zones on the 930E.

Apparently no one knows how many local dimming zones the 900E has and Sony won't say? Estimates have it at somewhere between 20-45 zones and the 900F was projected to have 20 to 45 zones as well. But these guys in the review arrived at the conclusion that the 900F has 60 zones. I also thought the 930E was supposed to have 64 zones and here they are saying 72.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by rroeder

Yeah but Geoff your a 1%'er with your knowledge, expecting the avg home theater fan like myself to understand all that is not reasonable. I have to say I agree with the article's comment about the studio's business practices they Fing suck!

So am I correct that the current Sony models that were supposed to get DV thru HDMI will not but these newer 2018 models will(not the low latency nonsense which I still do not understand)??

I have been eyeing a 940E for awhile was VERY close to buying a few weeks back glad I didn't now!

Since when have they not Fing sucked though? I'm not asking you to understand all the tech nonsense, just understand that studios are ever more reluctant when it comes to physical media - some more than others - and so early digital release windows are not indicative of some grand conspiracy to move people away from 4K disc, it's a grand conspiracy to move people away from physical media period. (As well as hoovering up a few extra $$$ from those people who can't resist buying the early digital release but who will also buy the physical disc version, heh)

That the streaming versions have DV and the discs do not is not a new phenom, just because Youri thinks it seems to have coincided with the Apple TV 4K ignores the fact that Warners and Universal and Sony have had DV streaming versions of their UHD movies up for a good couple of years already on various platforms while the discs were HDR10. Why? Because DV on disc simply wasn't ready to rumble.

[rroeder]

DV needed more time in the oven eh? Makes sense, and I agree streaming is what it is the delay to disc release is no biggy to me, but def want the best poss picture if I'm paying for a disc. I don't do streaming my internet sucks

So will the 2017 Sony models slated to get the real deal DV update or only these new 2018 models?

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Christ, they're spreading a whole load of FUD with that "Why hollywood hates you" article about 4K Disc. You'd think that these guys actually WANT this format to fail! Left a few comments, heh.

I thought almost everything in that article was a reach for clickbait. 1 hour after posting it, the news of Star wars being in Dolby Vision hit.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Nothing371

thanks for posting this review of the 900F, I read the whole thing.

My only surprising takeaway is that the 900F was measured to have 60 dimming zones compared to the estimated 20-45 zones on the 900E, and 72 zones on the 930E.

Apparently no one knows how many local dimming zones the 900E has and Sony won't say? Estimates have it at somewhere between 20-45 zones and the 900F was projected to have 20 to 45 zones as well. But these guys in the review arrived at the conclusion that the 900F has 60 zones. I also thought the 930E was supposed to have 64 zones and here they are saying 72.

900e had 45 for the 65". But honestly there's no huge difference between 60 and 72. Even the jump from 45 to 60 is minor, there's still gonna be blooming and clouding etc, as mentioned in the review.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by ray0414

I thought almost everything in that article was a reach for clickbait. 1 hour after posting it, the news of Star wars being in Dolby Vision hit.

Aren't they all? It's just a shame the clickbait has to be so goddamned negative but that's whatsa gets all da clicks.

[dominica]

In German: 900F (US) (Sony 55 XF9005 (XF90)) / vs 930E

Thanks (Glammer19)


HDTV Magazin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Xh...ature=youtu.be

[jibucha]

i may be mistaken, but at CES 2018, Sony represented the 900F as having double the zones of the previous 900E?

i cannot recall where i got that information (reading/video) but it makes sense that this would be logical

without a reliable connection to the information, just consider it accordingly

that this information is correct might be helpful

clearly, the 900F is significantly improved over the 900E, so it is possible as the 900F represents a considerable effort to improve it

Originally Posted by Nothing371

thanks for posting this review of the 900F, I read the whole thing.

My only surprising takeaway is that the 900F was measured to have 60 dimming zones compared to the estimated 20-45 zones on the 900E, and 72 zones on the 930E.

Apparently no one knows how many local dimming zones the 900E has and Sony won't say? Estimates have it at somewhere between 20-45 zones and the 900F was projected to have 20 to 45 zones as well. But these guys in the review arrived at the conclusion that the 900F has 60 zones. I also thought the 930E was supposed to have 64 zones and here they are saying 72.

[dominica]

Very Detail review By Hdtv Polska. I think they do some of the best reviews. They were able to get 1100 nits.

Maximum brightness after calibration 600cd / m2 (full screen classic SDR content), 1100 cd / m2 (HDR, section of screen)


(Thanks mithras1)

https://translate.google.com/transla...olby-vision%2F

or

https://hdtvpolska.com/sony-xf90-tes...-dolby-vision/

[al210]

Just got a 75" 900e at $2498 price. Spectacular price for a 75 incher. Even if Sony does release DV for the 900f its still a 10bit panel. I'll be waiting on the 12bit panels which DV was designed for. For now HDR10 or 10+ is maturing.

[Dirk504]

I ordered a 65" 900e from Amazon that will be coming tomorrow for $1598. I was looking at the 900f, but, but I do not think it will be worth $700 more. I can live without Dolby Vision, as this TV will mostly be used for gaming.

[Robert Zohn]

As of yesterday we're shipping 55", 65" and 75" X900Fs!