2018 QUESTION: See Chart to determine your 4K UHD Distance and Screen Size?

[Visitor2014]

Here is another video from Rachel's TV show that uses her smaller TV as an example. But she says take the size of the screen and multiply it by 1 1/2 for the distance.

If I use the 1 1/2 calculation on my 65", it comes out to 8 feet . . . which is too far according to the recommended chart in this post. But then again, Rachel was thinking regular TV and not 4K or the best in Blu-ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC3OzEI1S7Q

[mike171979]

What is the point of this?

All you can buy now is 4K... It's the standard.

There are very very few 1080p TVs even available! And any 1080p there is available is the lowest of the low end with crap specs in every regard not just resolution.

The mid level to high end TVs today are worth the upgrade because of increased brightness, increased color gamut, better anti-reflection screens, etc etc. The uptick in resolution itself is just another bonus to add to the mix.

[oddbox83]

These charts are nonsense anyway to buy a TV by IMHO, too many variables with individual eyesight.

Get what looks good to yourself, not what a silly chart tells you. By all means use them as a starting point, but not an end choice. I think that's the point and some are just taking them too far.

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by oddbox83

These charts are nonsense anyway to buy a TV by IMHO, too many variables with individual eyesight.

Get what looks good to yourself, not what a silly chart tells you. By all means use them as a starting point, but not an end choice. I think that's the point and some are just taking them too far.

My 65" LG Oled looked great at Costco as I stood about 7 feet from it. When I got it home and placed it against the bedroom wall (which is 12 feet from my pillow) . . . it still looked good. But then I began hearing more and more about a professional chart for optimizing the distance.

You're right . . . get what looks good for you. And at 12 feet it looked good. But then I moved it up to 7 feet (at the foot of my bed like some upscale hotels do). And the picture jumped out at me for both high quality Blu-rays and 4K's - plus all of the streaming live free football on Amazon Prime.

So for others, all I am suggesting is to experiment with the distance. Not much to lose by trying it . . . except a little time to move the screen.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by oddbox83

These charts are nonsense anyway to buy a TV by IMHO, too many variables with individual eyesight.

Get what looks good to yourself, not what a silly chart tells you. By all means use them as a starting point, but not an end choice. I think that's the point and some are just taking them too far.

So objective, fact based science is nonsense to you.

[oddbox83]

Had an interesting experience last night watching TV.

Despite sitting 8 1/2ft away from my 55" 4K LED, I spotted a single stuck pixel appearing on a dark scene.

If that chart was absolute, I shouldn't be able to discern a single pixel from that distance at my screen size. I think there's way more to it, brightness and colour must also play a significant part in how clearly the eye can pick up tiny details.

While this is interesting, it's now going to annoy the hell out of me!

Originally Posted by Auditor55

So objective, fact based science is nonsense to you.

Well, when the science is flawed, yes. Any science applying a definite one size fits all chart for human eyesight is deeply flawed and poor science. Use it as an indicator under a defined set of conditions and not as a de-facto rule, and that's significantly better science.

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by oddbox83

Had an interesting experience last night watching TV.

Despite sitting 8 1/2ft away from my 55" 4K LED, I spotted a single stuck pixel appearing on a dark scene.

If that chart was absolute, I shouldn't be able to discern a single pixel from that distance at my screen size. I think there's way more to it, brightness and colour must also play a significant part in how clearly the eye can pick up tiny details.

While this is interesting, it's now going to annoy the hell out of me!

It looks like your annoyance may have lasted only a few days when you purchased an awesome 65" LG OLED

Originally Posted by oddbox83

Well, I made the decision.

It's OLED. I came home with a 65" B8.

I'm convinced by all the extra safety measures this years LG OLEDs have incorporated. And the fact I hate the artefacts of local dimming which left me wanting to replace my last TV at only 2 years old. I was honestly less bothered when LEDs didn't have local dimming and just had better lighting.

Congratulations on your decision!

Please post your current report regarding the chart in Post #1 above. Now that you and I are on the same Oled Size display - it's may be just a matter of seeing how close the chart may be to a particular 4k Disk, preferably in Native Resolution. My latest 4K arrived today (Cliffhanger).

[oddbox83]

Originally Posted by Visitor2014

It looks like your annoyance may have lasted only a few days when you purchased an awesome 65" LG OLED


Congratulations on your decision!

Please post your current report regarding the chart in Post #1 above. Now that you and I are on the same Oled Size display - it's may be just a matter of seeing how close the chart may be to a particular 4k Disk, preferably in Native Resolution. My latest 4K arrived today (Cliffhanger).

Yes, I never really thought of it, but it was likely the last straw with that TV.

Well, there's not much to say, the difference between 1080p and 4K is now more noticeable. I'm at the same distance as I was before, and that puts me into the desirable blue area of the graph I've not agreed with.

[Wingman1977]

https://www.inchcalculator.com/tv-si...ce-calculator/

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by oddbox83

Yes, I never really thought of it, but it was likely the last straw with that TV.

Well, there's not much to say, the difference between 1080p and 4K is now more noticeable. I'm at the same distance as I was before, and that puts me into the desirable blue area of the graph I've not agreed with.

Which 4K movie disk gives your eyes the very best of the best you can experience at the distance you are at?

I say "disk" because streaming 4k most likely does not produce the power that a 4k disk delivers.

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

https://www.inchcalculator.com/tv-si...ce-calculator/

Another great link. Thank you very much. I entered 65" for 4K, and it calculated the following:

"THX ideal recommended distance: 6.5ft (40° viewing angle)"

or

"THX max recommended distance: 7.3ft (36° viewing angle)"

So I may have to put an extra pillow behind my head to get to 6.5ft . But at 7ft I am pleased.

What's more is your link also revealed the following:

"Visual acuity distance: 3.8ft "

Apparently Visual acuity distance is where my eyeballs "can see the individual pixels." I am not sure about that - maybe because the calculator does not take in what technology is being used . . . such as OLED (which I have) rather than LED.

[Visitor2014]

In the last few months, Forbes announced in the following news link:

Don't Be Fooled. 8K TVs Are A Waste Of Money For Most Viewers

" . . . in the conditions in which TVs are displayed at trade shows. In the conditions in which most people watch TV at home, the difference between 8K and 4K (and in some cases 1080p) are literally invisible.

In the article, the authors have their own scale for my optimal distance for my 65" OLED . . . at 4.3 Feet from my eyeballs!! Uh, right now my screen is at the foot of my king size bed at 7 feet from my pillow. Even if I wanted to shorten it to 4 feet, , , well - you know the answer.


The limitation lies in the biomechanics of the human eye.

Quote: "What I see at home is what I get."

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

So objective, fact based science is nonsense to you.

Yet another BS post from you.

UHD is not only about resolution. It’s about motion resolution, WCG, HDR, better compression, and at the very bottom: resolution.

[Visitor2014]

It's been three years since I posted last. But my internet speed for the OLED 65" sitting at the foot of my bed (6-7 feet from my eyes) went from 25mbps to over 150 this last month. I am seeing the sweat pores on the face of the actors now. I truly leave the planet at night when I immerse my experience into the screen, rather than view it at a longer distance. And with headphones . . . wow.