Proud Owner of a New Samsung UN65NU800! Some Questions...

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

So, what you're saying is, if I DECREASE gamma, this should help with bringing out shadow detail? It's not the other way around -- that RAISING gamma would make the black crush a bit less noticeable?

Decreasing gamma "brightens" the image by washing it out a bit. Raising gamma, ie going from 2.2 to 2.4 will darken the image but produce greater depth.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

Decreasing gamma "brightens" the image by washing it out a bit. Raising gamma, ie going from 2.2 to 2.4 will darken the image but produce greater depth.

Thanks; I'm utterly confused by how this works, so I suppose I am going to have to see what effects it has on real program material...

Conversely, would raising the brightness from its default "0" (midway) position help with black crush rather than playing with gamma?

[REPLAY]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

It was a long time comin', but I am FINALLY the proud owner of a new 4K TV in the form of a Samsung UN65NU8000 we just purchased yesterday from Best Buy on an awesome sale. Couldn't pass up this opportunity to replace our long-in-the-tooth Sony SXRD rear projection set which has begun showing signs of the dreaded yellow staining...

While the TV will be delivered tomorrow and we wait for our cabinet builder to come and alter our entertainment center in order to fit the larger screen, I had a few pre-operating questions if anyone with any knowledge of this set can answer...

First and foremost: This model, as I understand it, was Samsung's most premium 4K display BEFORE getting into the QLEDs (which we simply couldn't afford, unfortunately, nor an LD OLED) -- is this actually a good TV with a good picture?

Secondly, out of the gate, we won't be hooking up a UHD player to this display (wanted an Oppo 203, but didn't act on it because of money and now the company isn't even making players anymore, as most enthusiasts know) due to monetary restraints and the aforementioned Oppo dilemma; instead, I will be continuing to run my trusty Oppo BDP-83 BD player for BD and DVD playback, still connected through an Onkyo 605 AVR via HDMI 1.3a connections.

Now, given this setup, am I correct in assuming I can connect everything the way I had it in the past with the SXRD TV -- that is, HDMI OUT from the Oppo to HDMI IN of the Onkyo, and then HDMI OUT from the Onkyo to HDMI IN of the new Samsung? If so, the TV should then be upscaling the 1080p signal from the BDP-83 to 4K, correct? I know with DVD playback, there will be double processing going on, as the Oppo will be upscaling DVDs to 1080p and then the TV will be upscaling THAT to 4K...

Assuming this is correct, should I experience any problems running an older spec HDMI connection from my older gear to the Samsung? I do understand that I need a new AVR in order to do 4K video passthrough, but I'm not there yet and instead need to connect the older gear I'm running to the new TV.

Additionally, we don't plan on doing ANY streaming or using ANY of the smart applications on the TV -- we just want to use it for disc playback (and watching cable from our high def box) -- how difficult is it to "ignore" the smart features and app setup on this TV upon setup? Can they simply BE ignored?

With regard to a setting I had made in the Oppo BDP-83 based on my previous equipment (and based on what Oppo customer service advised me on), the COLOR SPACE setting in the BDP-83 was on "4:4:4," as Oppo told me that's what my Sony SXRD "natively sampled at" -- what should this COLOR SPACE setting be on for the new 4K TV?

Also -- just out of curiosity: Should we experience a pretty intense "impact" jump going from a 50" set at 12 feet to a 65" at the same distance, especially considering we're going from a rear pro with an aging optical block to a brand new 4K display?

I'm sure I'll be checking back in with a myriad of questions once I'm up and running (such as about picture mode settings and such), but this is what I can think of right now; if anyone could assist in any way, it would greatly appreciated.

TOO BAD NO Dolby Vision for you ,NOT ON A SAMSUNG. Just got a Sony 85" 900F from BB and the Dolby Vision will knock your socks off WOW. Got the Oppo 203 4k running on it now, and on the list for the first shipment of Panasonic 9000 4k players due in mid-Dec.Still have my Oppo 83 and she's running great.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by REPLAY

TOO BAD NO Dolby Vision for you ,NOT ON A SAMSUNG. Just got a Sony 85" 900F from BB and the Dolby Vision will knock your socks off WOW. Got the Oppo 203 4k running on it now, and on the list for the first shipment of Panasonic 9000 4k players due in mid-Dec.Still have my Oppo 83 and she's running great.

Yeah...I know no Dolby Vision on my Samsung...thanks for the pick-me-up...

Anyway, it really doesn't matter because we're not planning on buying too many UHD discs going forward (just whatever we end up liking in theaters) -- the first UHD disc we plan on getting is Equalizer 2, which I confirmed is coming with base HDR10 (which, of course, my TV DOES support just fine).

[wxman2003]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Thanks; I'm utterly confused by how this works, so I suppose I am going to have to see what effects it has on real program material...

Conversely, would raising the brightness from its default "0" (midway) position help with black crush rather than playing with gamma?

This might help you out.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.p...&id=1328263571

[RalphoR]

Congrats on your new TV. I always check around the web or YouTube for calibration settings. Try this one and tinker with it to your specific taste:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sa...u8000/settings

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by RalphoR

Congrats on your new TV. I always check around the web or YouTube for calibration settings. Try this one and tinker with it to your specific taste:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sa...u8000/settings

Thanks Ralph (though it's not really BRAND new anymore)…

I have seen the rtings settings already (saw them even before I got the set) -- the MOVIE picture mode default settings are pretty much where rtings is at, and that's where I'm at too. I am experiencing some black crush that I thought could be adjusted by fiddling with gamma or brightness...

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

This might help you out.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.p...&id=1328263571

Appreciated; I still don't understand if LOWERING or RAISING my gamma is what I'm after if the blacks seem TOO dark.

As I said, I guess I'll have to see how the settings affect actual material.