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Originally Posted by MarcinL

Keep the HDR+ setting to off at all times. This Samsung only gimmick is trash. When you get your UHD player and connect it to the TV, as long as your input is set to HDMI UHD color to on. You’ll know that UHD HDR is working and displaying correctly from 4K movie because when you hit display you should see a top bar open up for few seconds that will provide info on the input, resolution and will say HDR on it. You’ll also realize that your backlight setting on that input will automatically go to MAX to account for HDR.

Are you sure about the last statement, Marcin? This is what Ray (he helped me earlier in this thread) in the HDR thread said:

HDR doesn't max out contrast and backlight anymore on Samsung tvs. It just remembers your saved settings. So if you last used backlight at 12 with HDR, that's what it'll go to when it switches over. Only if you have it saved at max, will it switch over to max.

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Originally Posted by beefytwinkie

I didn't set my TV using any sort of calibration tools. I just did it over time while watching plenty of 4K blu-rays, blu-rays, DVD's, streaming, cable, and playing PS4, PS3, Xbox One, and 360.

As I watched my TV I would tweak my settings here and there. There was definitely no expert workmanship there. LOL

I understand; I was merely saying that you didn't have to share those exact setting parameters (color, sharpness, et al) you used because I plan on adjusting my set with setup discs (or another way, based on what the UHD/4K protocol is).

With regard to the Picture Mode, I believe they are really just pre-sets. You can use whichever you want. I recall my first LCD (also a Samsung) would have a lot of options greyed out and not selectable unless the setting was "Movie". When I set the television to "Movie", all the greyed out options would open up and allow me to tweak the television more. Since then, I would always adjust my television settings after first setting the television to "Movie". For the record, I've had three Samsungs and two Panasonics.

Indeed; the "Cinema" preset is always advised on hobbyist forums due to the fact that it's supposed to be a good mode for dimly-lit rooms in which one is watching film. I have always found them to be oddly-colored, though, washing the whole image in a sepia/beige-like tone that doesn't really enable colors to pop enough. Now I'm not advocating for using Vivid or Dynamic unless it's in a retail store -- but I always felt Standard was the best compromise.

That being said, the Standard mode on this new Samsung really pushes a cool hue to the image, even with color temperature/tone set to Normal...I have to continue experimenting.

I also do not do individual calibrations for all HDMI inputs. I only use one input. Everything is run through my Yamaha or Onkyo receiver. I have no reason to use any of the other inputs on my television except for HDMI 1.

Oh, I'm referring more to the feature that's on my new Samsung (perhaps yours didn't have it) that allows the user to apply the settings across ALL inputs connected to the display. So, if I set up the adjustments for, say, the Blu-ray player, I have the option of applying those to ALL inputs.

With regard to my settings like tint, gamma, sharpness, etc. I really just left most of it alone or tweaked them here and there until I was satisfied. Like I said, I just set it to whatever I thought looked the best. I'm sure if I had it professionally calibrated or used something as simple as a calibration disc, my television might look better. I'm okay with my settings. I have never had anyone come by and say "Hey, your television settings seem off."

Fair enough; I believe in using the test patterns on these discs to get sharpness correct as well as brightness, color, etc. I am sure most of these settings are fine out of the box, but some of them I think are a bit too high on my new set, such as sharpness (this is introducing added grain and noise into the picture I believe), backlighting and contrast.

I am going to share some settings I jotted down yesterday for MY particular set in a moment, and I'd love to get your input about them.

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Originally Posted by MarcinL

Keep the HDR+ setting to off at all times. This Samsung only gimmick is trash. When you get your UHD player and connect it to the TV, as long as your input is set to HDMI UHD color to on. You’ll know that UHD HDR is working and displaying correctly from 4K movie because when you hit display you should see a top bar open up for few seconds that will provide info on the input, resolution and will say HDR on it. You’ll also realize that your backlight setting on that input will automatically go to MAX to account for HDR.

Thanks for the assistance, Marcin. Much appreciated as I get my feet wet in the HDR/4K world!

I appreciate you explaning how the HDR+ thing works on my TV; I will continue leaving HDR+ OFF for now.

So once I get the new player -- just so I understand this right -- I'll need to go into the HDMI UHD COLOR menu and switch that to ON for that HDMI input, correct? This will automatically apply the TV's HDR algorithm?

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After sitting down in front of the new display yesterday and jotting down the setting options pretty much one by one, the following are what I'd like some assistance with, if anyone could lend some insight:

This is for my CABLE BOX input (HDMI 1; I will apply whatever is necessary to the BLU-RAY PLAYER input).

PICTURE MENU

Picture Mode: Standard (my preference for now)

Picture Size Settings: 16:9 Standard (is this correct?)

Fit to Screen: AUTO (is this correct?)


EXPERT SETTINGS MENU

Digital Clean View (Noise Reduction): Auto (I have it on Low for the BD player input)

Auto Motion Plus: Off

Local Dimming: Low

Contrast Enhancer: High (I have this on Low for the BD player input; should be Off ideally, though, right?)

HDR+ Mode: Off

Film Mode: Auto 2 (This is something I wanted to ask about; seems this setting is only available when the incoming signal is a max of 1080i, which it is for my cable box. Is this the correct setting for a set top box outputting 1080i?)

Color Tone: Standard (may experiment with Warm 1)

Gamma: BT.1886 (This seems to switch automatically to this setting; is this correct?)

RGB Only Mode: Off

Color Space: Auto


GENERAL MENU

External Device Manager: Off

Game Mode: Off

HDMI UHD Color: Off for all HDMI inputs

Eco Solution: All Off

Accessibility: All Off

Is this pretty much accurate?

[beefytwinkie]

Damn, sorry, dude. I didn't get a notification of our reply and I have the thread subscribed. Weird.

I think most of our settings are pretty close although you have things like Contrast Enhancer set to high for your blu-ray input but I don't utilize separate inputs on my television so I don't know the best setting for yours.

I also don't have the film mode option as I do not have anything less than 1080p going into the television.

I also leave off the noise reduction. From my experience that setting messes up the picture more than helps.

Hope you've had the opportunity to tweak your television and I hope it is looking good for you.

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Originally Posted by beefytwinkie

Damn, sorry, dude. I didn't get a notification of our reply and I have the thread subscribed. Weird.

I think most of our settings are pretty close although you have things like Contrast Enhancer set to high for your blu-ray input but I don't utilize separate inputs on my television so I don't know the best setting for yours.

I also don't have the film mode option as I do not have anything less than 1080p going into the television.

I also leave off the noise reduction. From my experience that setting messes up the picture more than helps.

Hope you've had the opportunity to tweak your television and I hope it is looking good for you.

Thanks Beefy.

That whole "I subscribed to the thread but didn't receive a message about more posts" thing constantly happens to me, so I know what you mean.

As for settings, I have been working with a very gracious member here, Chip, who has been walking me through settings on a step-by-step basis for my Samsung; per some of his recommendations, I am testing the set in MOVIE mode with very small adjustments made to factory defaults such as leaving Constrast Enhancer OFF, leaving Noise Reduction on LOW, leaving Fit to Screen OFF and leaving Local Dimming on LOW.

Don't know how I feel about the mode yet; we watched half of Avengers: Infinity War last night (Blu-ray) in Movie mode and it kind of made my display look like my previous rear-projection set, a Sony SXRD, in that images and colors were a bit too "smooth and soft." I'm still playing around.

That said, if you have any additional input regarding settings for a Samsung, please fire away!

[TPerryoo7]

Local dimming should be set to high, that's what helps with the flash lighting effect and helps blacken the screen in dark/black scenes/transitional moments.

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Originally Posted by TPerryoo7

Local dimming should be set to high, that's what helps with the flash lighting effect and helps blacken the screen in dark/black scenes/transitional moments.

Thank you very much. I appreciate the response.

I moved the setting up to STANDARD (medium) for now, which seems to have helped somewhat, so perhaps you're right about the HIGH setting...but wouldn't this introduce blooming?