Yellowstone: Season One - December 4th, 2018

[DNSK]

Originally Posted by kevin87

I'm not sure what's going on with Amazon lately, I used to get pre-orders on the day of, if not the day before... but the last few things I've ordered haven't shipped until release date or later. I pre-ordered the final Digimon Adventure tri film on November 21st, which was released today and finally around 4ish they email me saying they finally have a delivery date and it's also December 14th. Are studios still having problems getting discs made or something?

I’ve had the same problem with Amazon when preordering. I don’t know what’s happened but I no longer preorder with them because of that. Having it arrive the day before or day of was great. Now it defeats the purpose of preordering when you can just drive to the store and buy it the day it comes out. One time I didn’t get my preorder from Amazon for nearly a month after it came out. That was the last straw for me.

[DNSK]

I loved this show. Everything Taylor Sheridan does is good. I can’t wait for season 2!

[Trace17]

Originally Posted by kevin87

I'm not sure what's going on with Amazon lately, I used to get pre-orders on the day of, if not the day before... but the last few things I've ordered haven't shipped until release date or later. I pre-ordered the final Digimon Adventure tri film on November 21st, which was released today and finally around 4ish they email me saying they finally have a delivery date and it's also December 14th. Are studios still having problems getting discs made or something?

From my understanding, yes there are still issues with replication plant not being able to keep up with orders.

For the record, I got my copies of MI: Fallout and Support the Girls on release day yesterday as scheduled. It's just this one that got pushed.

[Trace17]

If you can't wait for Amazon to fulfill orders, Walmart still has it for that price and some stores around me have it in stock. I cancelled my order and picked it up at a nearby WM store.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Yellowsto...-ray/547197721

[Darrin88]

Mine arrives tomorrow from Amazon.

[balthazar_bee]

Y'all know this is a BD-R, right? I only ask because I was rather startled to see that the underside of the disc is a telling shade of purple.

Maybe someone here knows: are they allowed to do this with the official blu-ray logo on the cover? 'Cause it's all over the packaging and even the discs themselves.

EDIT: Thought this was the thread for season 2. Anyway, season 2 is BD-R.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

Y'all know this is a BD-R, right? I only ask because I was rather startled to see that the underside of the disc is a telling shade of purple.

Maybe someone here knows: are they allowed to do this with the official blu-ray logo on the cover? 'Cause it's all over the packaging and even the discs themselves.

EDIT: Thought this was the thread for season 2. Anyway, season 2 is BD-R.

Did you purchase from ebay or something? There is no indication anywhere that Season 2 is a BD-R, and it's being sold in-stores at Wal-marts and Best Buys (which economically makes no sense if it's somehow a BD-R).

[kevin87]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

Y'all know this is a BD-R, right? I only ask because I was rather startled to see that the underside of the disc is a telling shade of purple.

Maybe someone here knows: are they allowed to do this with the official blu-ray logo on the cover? 'Cause it's all over the packaging and even the discs themselves.

EDIT: Thought this was the thread for season 2. Anyway, season 2 is BD-R.

They can't use the BD logo anywhere on the artwork or discs or even on the case itself. Though some Charmed s2 cases slipped by with a BD logo when they were burned, even the case should have "Blu-ray disc" on the top instead of the logo. They also aren't supposed to be sold in stores

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

Did you purchase from ebay or something? There is no indication anywhere that Season 2 is a BD-R, and it's being sold in-stores at Wal-marts and Best Buys (which economically makes no sense if it's somehow a BD-R).

That was my first though, because BD-R, and even pressed MOD, are supposed to only be sold online, not in retail stores.

[balthazar_bee]

It was a vendor through/fulfilled by Amazon.ca (something called Season CA).

Does anyone own it and can confirm or refute whether your own is BD-R?

Honestly, it didn't look like the package had been tampered with. Had a slipcover and everything (though the case was a pretty tight fit).

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

It was a vendor through/fulfilled by Amazon.ca (something called Season CA).

Does anyone own it and can confirm or refute whether your own is BD-R?

Honestly, it didn't look like the package had been tampered with. Had a slipcover and everything (though the case was a pretty tight fit).

Dude, no question—you got robbed. Here are all three discs from Season Two. Pressed. No purple layer, no BD-R.

https://imgur.com/gallery/Pc5IABi

[garyd97]

I bought it release day at walmart and mine was not BD-R.

[balthazar_bee]

Thanks folks. Ordinarily it wouldn't bother me too much, but the player I'm using right now won't even read BD-Rs, so someone's gonna pay.

[balthazar_bee]

Well, I sent back the first copy and ordered another one from another vendor.

Something's up here. This one's has a blue/purple underside as well. It also seems really cramped within the slipcover - like, I've never seen a case that's this badly matched to a slip. You've got to shove the sucker in and the plastic edge gets caught and tangled on the slip.

Part of me thinks, Who cares? I know some people get really bent out of shape about BD-Rs, but for me it's just the mystery of it. Like, is Paramount's Canadian distributor saving money? Is there a batch of bootlegs floating around? (It seems a pretty improbable choice as a big money-maker for the black market.)

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

Well, I sent back the first copy and ordered another one from another vendor.

Something's up here. This one's has a blue/purple underside as well. It also seems really cramped within the slipcover - like, I've never seen a case that's this badly matched to a slip. You've got to shove the sucker in and the plastic edge gets caught and tangled on the slip.

Part of me thinks, Who cares? I know some people get really bent out of shape about BD-Rs, but for me it's just the mystery of it. Like, is Paramount's Canadian distributor saving money? Is there a batch of bootlegs floating around? (It seems a pretty improbable choice as a big money-maker for the black market.)

Yeah, you’re definitely having some weird Twilight Zone moment with your order. To your point, I can’t imagine there being enough demand to make this a profitable title for rampant bootlegging. In the U.S., I assure you that where official releases are concerned, neither season of YELLOWSTONE is a BD-R.

[neo_reloaded]

Are you really sure these are BD-R? Purple/blue sounds pressed to me...

BD-Rs are normally black or yellow.

[balthazar_bee]

It's the same colour as the Under the Silver (ironic!) Lake disc, which I believe is also BD-R.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

Are you really sure these are BD-R? Purple/blue sounds pressed to me...

BD-Rs are normally black or yellow.

What?! The data side of a pressed disc is silver, like a mirror. BD-R data layers are purplish or bluish. I’ve seen some yellow layer CD-Rs but where in the hell have you seen a disc (video games excepted) with a black layer?!

[neo_reloaded]

Really weird if you're getting BD-Rs of Yellowstone season 2 from multiple sellers. What are the odds you'd get bootlegs from two different sellers, why is anyone making bootlegs of this show, and why would they go to the trouble of also making slipcovers?

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

What?! The data side of a pressed disc is silver, like a mirror. BD-R data layers are purplish or bluish. I’ve seen some yellow layer CD-Rs but where in the hell have you seen a disc (video games excepted) with a black layer?!

Pressed Blu-ray discs clearly have a blue-ish hue to them, and the dual-layer ones from certain replicators are deep enough that they start to look a little purple:



Wikipedia even references the blue hue, so I don't think it's some oddity of my own vision... Yes they are reflective, like a mirror, but there's also clearly a color to them.

BD-Rs have a black bottom:



I have on occasion seen yellow-bottom BD-Rs, but the black-bottom ones are far more common.

Besides color, the layer barcode / matrix runout is also a distinguishing factor. In the pressed Blu-ray picture, you can see the circular barcode / matrix info around the center of the disc. A BD-R lacks that feature.

[kevin87]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

Really weird if you're getting BD-Rs of Yellowstone season 2 from multiple sellers. What are the odds you'd get bootlegs from two different sellers, why is anyone making bootlegs of this show, and why would they go to the trouble of also making slipcovers?

If it's a seller as in an individual person, it's possible they're getting the retail packaging and the seller is just removing the pressed discs and finding BD-Rs to trick people with. I got a bootleg Daria set years back off ebay and that's when I stared mostly buying from actual retail stores... maybe that's where balthazar_bee should try next.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

Pressed Blu-ray discs clearly have a blue-ish hue to them, and the dual-layer ones from certain replicators are deep enough that they start to look a little purple.

Wikipedia even references the blue hue, so I don't think it's some oddity of my own vision... Yes they are reflective, like a mirror, but there's also clearly a color to them.

BD-Rs have a black bottom.

I have on occasion seen yellow-bottom BD-Rs, but the black-bottom ones are far more common.

I see your point and I think you and I are just getting confused on a scale of relativity. When you were referring to blue/purple tinting on pressed BDs, I thought you were referring to the much more bold, punchy coloring found on many CD-Rs, and in regards to the black data layer, I see that more as golden hued (yellow), but yes, the actual section with encoded data has a blackish tone, so now I understand where you're coming from. Perhaps more simply, we should just say that balthazar_bee should compare his YELLOWSTONE discs' data sides with any other pressed BD disc he owns; if it doesn't look the same, he got robbed.