‘Quiet Place’ Writers Turned Down Star Wars, Tells Lucasfilm To Start New Franchises

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by jayman3

*film adaptation of book series though.

Surprised Disney's going ahead with this when they decided not to move forward on Mouse Guard.

Mouse Guard had a huge budget.

[Martoto]

The actual quote regarding what Lucasfilm ought to do, according to the AQP guys doesn't make any sense.

‘[B“And we’re like, ]We wanna talk to you about what is “Star Wars” before it was “Star Wars?”[/B] You guys have a responsibility to start a new franchise. That’s where our hearts have always been, just trying to create original ideas.’”

So they did apparently did want to talk about "Star Wars" before it was "Star Wars". Whatever that means. It must mean something other than something in the Star Wars universe if the encounter riled them sufficiently to inform LFL of their responsibilities.

At no point in the printed interview is it mentioned if they talked about the possibility of developing a new franchise or an original idea, which are not necessarily the same thing anyway, and were told that Lucasfilm were not interested in ever doing such things.

You can have an original idea and set it in the GFFA.

I guess if they agreed to take the meeting they might have hoped that working on a new franchise producing and existing original idea of theirs. If that was discussed but the conversation was a dead end then you would think they might have actually mentioned that directly rather than obliquely, if we assume that's what happened.

There's a basic appetite for Lucasfilm to make Star Wars and Indy movies. There's also an appetite for original material not related to either of them. But there's not enough information here to uphold their insinuation that LFL are somehow shirking a responsibility to produce new franchises and/or original ideas.

We must also assume that the AQP guys perceive Lucasfilm to have shirked this responsibility for the past twenty five years, except when it made Red Tails. And not just the past five years.

To date. LFL has made ten non-SW or IJ movies in its 46 year history. Seven of them were made in the three year period 1985-88.

[mikeyfridebuzz]

Originally Posted by jayman3

I got that impression too. They're not wrong. Lucasfilm could be more than just Star Wars and Indiana Jones. But alas, it's under Disney's control and we all know how they fear originality...

Yes, it very much came across as if they accepted the meeting to discuss new franchises and were dismayed that Disney could only go back to the well instead of innovate which disappointed them.

If they were anticipating that response and really did mean what they claim, then they would have had no reason for agreeing to meet in the first place.

[Martoto]

Claiming that they wanted to talk with LFL about what "Star Wars" was before it was "Star Wars" sounds like the opposite of going on the pretense that they were going to pitch original ideas for new franchises.

The intention to make relatively inexpensive Flash Gordon movies from which to make private small art movies with the profits is what Star Wars was before it was Star Wars. If the AQP guys are still curious about that.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by CelluloidPal

Well, I'll take A Quiet Place over those new Star Wars flicks any day of the week.

The point isn't your preference, which may be important to you but is irrelevant to the conversation.

Nor is the point that in my opinion AQP is far from an original piece of work, but simply a rehash of old ideas with far better execution elsewhere, although it is relevant as while these two clowns do have box office credentials, they have zero credibility as original filmmakers, which if need to translate for you, is the same ol' same ol' with their imprint.

The point is taking a meeting with Lucasfilm, stating that Lucasfilm should be focused on new franchises, while AQP has a sequel on tap.

That, in my opinion, is the height of hypocrisy.

[Cremildo]

They're not wrong for advocating original franchises, but they also seem to think much too highly of themselves. AQP was a box-office hit, but most of the praise went to Krasinski's direction and the performances of Blunt and the teen actress who plays the daughter, not to the originality of the writing.

You're not the new incarnation of William Goldman or Paddy Chayefsky, fellas.

[CelluloidPal]

Originally Posted by cgpublic

The point isn't your preference, which may be important to you but is irrelevant to the conversation.

Nor is the point that in my opinion AQP is far from an original piece of work, but simply a rehash of old ideas with far better execution elsewhere, although it is relevant as while these two clowns do have box office credentials, they have zero credibility as original filmmakers, which if need to translate for you, is the same ol' same ol' with their imprint.

The point is taking a meeting with Lucasfilm, stating that Lucasfilm should be focused on new franchises, while AQP has a sequel on tap.

That, in my opinion, is the height of hypocrisy.

I sounded like your post was a criticism/opinion of A Quiet Place.
But, AQP isn't based nor built upon an existing or previous IP, so there's that.

[CelluloidPal]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Mouse Guard had a huge budget.

What makes you think Children of Blood and Bone won't have one?

[SeanJoyce]

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by CelluloidPal

What makes you think Children of Blood and Bone won't have one?

Who said it would not? That has nothing to do with the budget for Mouse Guard though.

[J-Mart]

Originally Posted by cgpublic

The point isn't your preference, which may be important to you but is irrelevant to the conversation.

Nor is the point that in my opinion AQP is far from an original piece of work, but simply a rehash of old ideas with far better execution elsewhere, although it is relevant as while these two clowns do have box office credentials, they have zero credibility as original filmmakers, which if need to translate for you, is the same ol' same ol' with their imprint.

The point is taking a meeting with Lucasfilm, stating that Lucasfilm should be focused on new franchises, while AQP has a sequel on tap.

That, in my opinion, is the height of hypocrisy.

Is it hypocrisy though? It seems like AQP is becoming a new franchise, a new series at the very least.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by J-Mart

Is it hypocrisy though? It seems like AQP is becoming a new franchise, a new series at the very least.

If the makers of AQP invite someone in to talk about what area of the AQP universe they'd like to see a movie developed and don't accept a response that they are abdicating a responsibility to develop that person's original ideas instead, then yes.

Even just prioritising a sequel to an established IP instead of an original idea is hypocritical in the context of what they're supposed to have said.

What they've said is a bit all over the place anyway. They say they told LFL they were interested in what was "Star Wars" before it was "Star Wars"

[CelluloidPal]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Who said it would not? That has nothing to do with the budget for Mouse Guard though.

Remember this quote from Jayman?

Surprised Disney's going ahead with this when they decided not to move forward on Mouse Guard.

Disney dropped Mouse Guard because of it having a big budget and yet COBAB could have one itself.

[mwynn]

The budget for Mouse Guard is not equal to the budget of Children of Blood and Bone. It could be lower, the same, or higher and it still has nothing to do with the budget that was approved for Mouse Guard. The two are not related.

[wallendo]

My interpretation was that these two guys had their own ideas and Lucasfilm preferred they stick to a Lucasfilm plan.

[Foggy]

...so how many of you guys actually support new IP when they do come out?

[mikeyfridebuzz]

Originally Posted by wallendo

My interpretation was that these two guys had their own ideas and Lucasfilm preferred they stick to a Lucasfilm plan.

Bingo.

They also challenged Lucasfilm/Disney to think about what Star Wars was before it was Star Wars. In other words, what was that initial spark that made Star Wars so great and unique before it turned into this monstrosity of an IP that revolves around massive toy sales, big budget blockbusters and Billion dollar box office returns that eventually enticed Disney to purchase.

George Lucas has said many times that the biggest sci fi movies up to the time Star Wars was being worked on in the 70's were 2001 and Planet of the Apes and they did modestly well. He didn't get into the Sci Fi game knowing it would spawn the money making juggernaut it is today. His initial love for Flash Gordon, Joseph Campbell and the hero's journey, among others, was what made Star Wars what is was before it became STAR WARS TM

[Monterey Jack]

Funny to say that when A Quiet Place -- truly the definition of a "one & done" experience -- has a sequel currently shooting.

[Eusung]

Originally Posted by monterey jack

the last jedi -- truly the definition of a "one & done" experience -- has a sequel currently shooting.

fixed!!

[klauswhereareyou]

You gotta admit it sucks when the studios that dump 200 million dollars into the same crap are afraid to take a chance on something new for 50 million. You cannibalize the art to the point in which no one will show up for your garbage eventually. So yeah, there's a point to what they're saying. The fact that Lucasfilm is reaching out to others to figure out what to do shows they have no clue what they are doing.