Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2022)

[amarster]

lol This just makes me want to watch the original.

[snipemonkey]

Oh, for the love of... Not again???

[Kaiju]

Who wants to bet it'll be rebooted again by 2030?

[Scoot79]

The 1974 original is the absolute best, so if they're determined to make another film I'd like it to be as close to the 1974 original as possible.

Like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brg8...ature=youtu.be

[wonderer99]

One franchise that literally has nothing left. The thought of watching another Leatherface chase some chick in a crop top is deeply unappealing. Another movie where one or two films and the concept is exhausted.

[Scoot79]

Originally Posted by wonderer99

One franchise that literally has nothing left. The thought of watching another Leatherface chase some chick in a crop top is deeply unappealing. Another movie where one or two films and the concept is exhausted.

Anyone could make that argument for almost any movie franchise, horror or not. Friday the 13th, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, Terminator, Rambo, etc. Technically, they've all run their course. While there are certain films I don't like at all, I can't think of a franchise where I would say that I never want another film. There's always a chance it could turn out to be really good...or crap. I'm not so cynical that I'm unwilling to give it a chance.

[Kill Bren]

[wonderer99]

Originally Posted by Scoot79

Anyone could make that argument for almost any movie franchise, horror or not. Friday the 13th, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, Terminator, Rambo, etc. Technically, they've all run their course. While there are certain films I don't like at all, I can't think of a franchise where I would say that I never want another film. There's always a chance it could turn out to be really good...or crap. I'm not so cynical that I'm unwilling to give it a chance.

I will grant you Halloween as I said as much in its thread. But many franchises can branch off in plenty of different directions. It just takes talented filmakers to make it work. With something like TCM there is nowhere to really go without turning it into something else entirely. Its ultimately about a crazy family. Leatherface is the mascot. You have to keep those two things intact and therefore we just get variations of the exact same movie. As I say Michael Myers is another example. Thats not to say any of those movies cant be good, they can. But they will all suffer from repetitiveness.

Like it or love it Prometheus is a great example of a franchise being able to branch out because the world Alien inhabited was always so much more than just the xenomorph.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by wonderer99

One franchise that literally has nothing left. The thought of watching another Leatherface chase some chick in a crop top is deeply unappealing. Another movie where one or two films and the concept is exhausted.

These movies will never die. Why do people not get it yet? As I have said before, Leatherface, Michael Myers, Jason and Freddy are just the modern equivalent of boogeymen from the past. The Wolfman, Dracula, Frankenstein etc.. look how many of those were made? Heck, we are still getting variations now!
These monsters get right inside our heads. Myers is a unstoppable, emotionless killing machine, Freddy can haunt our dreams and infect reality, Jason is the vengeful man child out for revenge against those that wronged him, leatherface is the dark side of humanity that we know exists alongside us, out there, somewhere.
Horror will always have representations of our greatest fears. It’s up to the creatives to give us more flesh on the bone (don't tell Hannibal ) but I have little doubt that these monsters will exist as long as film exists.
Personally, I am excited to see who the new ones will be. At the moment it’s social issues that are trying to get under our skin, It Follows, Get Out, US, The Babadook etc.. The latter is a play on perhaps, the most feared of all real world terror, mental health.
The themes will change, but the boogeymen will weave their way into all these stories in years to come.

That reminds me, I must catch that new Dracula tv show in the next few weeks.

[AaronJ]

While I'm with those in this thread who are fans of the 2003 film, I'm also not against a reboot. It could be really good, really bad, or anywhere in-between. I'm just willing to wait and see what they come up with. We'll see.

Man, that 2003 film was grim as hell. What a movie. And it makes me sad that Biel didn't do more horror along the way. Oh well, we'll always have TCM.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by AaronJ

While I'm with those in this thread who are fans of the 2003 film, I'm also not against a reboot. It could be really good, really bad, or anywhere in-between. I'm just willing to wait and see what they come up with. We'll see.

Man, that 2003 film was grim as hell. What a movie. And it makes me sad that Biel didn't do more horror along the way. Oh well, we'll always have TCM.

I feel TCM 2003 was polished as hell, pretending to be grim so hard.

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

I feel TCM 2003 was polished as hell, pretending to be grim so hard.

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

I feel TCM 2003 was polished as hell, pretending to be grim so hard.

Hmm.

I'll give you that it was polished, sure. But it couldn't help but look that way when compared to the original. First, it was made almost 30 years later. Second, it was made for 100x the budget. Although, admittedly, I have no idea what role inflation would play in that equation. But even considering that, it had a significantly larger budget.

Where I have to disagree with you is that it was "pretending" to be grim. Personally, I found it to be a very remorseless, dark, tense, macabre film. Again, that's obviously just my opinion. But that's always the way I've seen it.

[storythecorgi]

It's like beating a dead horse.

[Gbpxl]

1 was awesome. 2 was good. 3 was kinda weak. 4 was an interesting take on Leatherface. the remake was kinda meh. havent seen the rest

[TheSweetieMan]

The worst thing Tobe Hooper ever did was attempt to do a follow up to his original film--despite the second film actually being grossly under-appreciated for what it is.

The thing is, the original is a result of lightning in a bottle. Something he couldn't replicate, hence the slapstick direction of the second film.

And, obviously, every other filmmaker that has had their attempt at TCM has been unremarkable to downright awful.

I just don't see why execs, studios, and even directors and writers, keep thinking they can find some new formula to replicate, or at least compliment something, that was made almost out of pure luck.

The original TCM is one of the most seminal, unique horror films of its time. A lot of these studios and directors clearly don't understand the meaning of 'seminal'.

[CelluloidPal]

If they can come up with something that can rival the original or even rival the 2003 remake, I'm more than willing to give it a fair shake.

[DenOfEarth]

Another supposed "true" sequel to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

*facepalm and big sigh*

Let this franchise just die already!

[Scoot79]

[DenOfEarth]

Originally Posted by Scoot79

That's how you are gonna send your message to studios is enough is enough and to let some things stay dead. I'm glad Grudge underperfromed at the box-office as that should kill the franchise that was already dead.

Oh please! stop beating this dead horse of a franchise!

Between this, a new Elm Street movie being announced and Scream 5 and Saw 8! i think it's time to let horror icons and their franchises like Scream, Elm Street, Texas Chainsaw Massacre etc. rest in peace already. They need to die already.

The last worthwhile movie was TCM 3 back in 1990 despite having problems with the MPAA and the unrated version isn't the true uncut version but still has it's moments! the 4th movie is a joke, i didn't mind the remake but the original is still the best, the remake prequel was lame, 3D was a pile of crap and 2017's other unwanted prequel Leatherface was a dull lifeless piece of chopped meat! I'm so jaded with this franchise at this point and will continue to enjoy the first 3 movies.

I'm just tired of these worn out franchises like Elm Street, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Saw etc. coming out in theaters over and over again, your just gonna get dimishing returns. Some franchises just need to die already. I shouldn't feel that way about franchises i like, i do like Friday The 13th Elm Street , Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Scream (3 was the last good one for me as it should had ended there) etc. the reason i'm clamoring for them to die is because i like them because i care about them, there's no reason to keep trotting the out there because of familiar name.

After hearing of another Texas Chainsaw Massacre so-called True sequel", another Elm Street film another Scream film etc. it's time for these franchise to rest in peace, there's nothing to gain to continuing to bring these icons to the big screen. If you can't do something unique or inventive or original with these characters or do anything else storywise. There is no point in bringing them back, put the time and effort that you would put in these lazy cashgrab sequels/reboots that prey on horror fans's nostalgia and make something unique and different that is it's own franchise and concept and new icon.

Stop digging up old icons/franchises like Freddy, Jason, Ghostface, Leatherface etc, and propping them up on the screen like they are new, they are not, they are old. Old is still good and great, i love Freddy, Leatherface and iconic cinematic horror icons, and because i love them, i don't want them to keep making lazy shitty films to ride the cottail of a franchise that is popular. If there's nothing new you can do with them or anything that different even storywise, then let them rest in peace. Otherwise our destroying their legacy, not helping them.

At least the Child's Play remake which i enjoyed did something different with the material and was the best Child's Play film since the first 3 films when the franchise was called "Child's Play" not "Of Chucky" and an improvement over the last 4 lousy films. The remake movie actually breathed new life in the franchise and has the spirit of the first 3 Child's Play film when Chucky was actually scary and not a joke like in the last 4 films. Plus actual likable characters like in the first 3 films and good creative kills and wasn't a parody like the last 4 films and this remake was a passion project of having something different. It wasn't a lazy halfassed copy and paste remake like Elm Street and Poltergeist where it steals stuff from the other films even other lines throw them into a movie or a pure carbon copy like Psycho.

If you can't do anything that different or new even storywise just like Child's Play 2019 with properties like Hellraiser, Saw, Elm Street, Scream, Texas Chainsaw Massacre etc.then there's no point in bringing them back.

I still think Spiral should had been it's own franchise and own movie and not a spinoff to a dead franchise like Saw which should had died along time ago. I mean i love Chris Rock and appreciate him trying to do a horror film but i really wish it was it's own film and own potential franchise instead of being part of a dead one.

I hate to lump an entire fanbse together, There is a large majority of horror fans with lowered expectations or next to no standards.. You see it alot with a box-office take on Halloween 2018 or Elm Street remake. Not to knock people but i'm just fraustrated as i just want more creative juices flowing in the mainstream horror genre. and want some creative juices in the mainstream like Crawl and Get out or Quiet Place instead of w horing franchises like Hellraiser or Elm Street for money. I'm tired of the mainstream playing it safe and they need risks again like in the old days.

At least i'm glad audiences supported Get Out, It Follows and Quiet Place as those took risks and made them blockbusters as the mainstream horror genre needed something fresh than another ghost film, another found footage film, another remake, another sequel/reboot/prequel to a dead franchise, teenybooper piece of crap like Quija etc. I do like Conjuring 1 and 2 but not the cash-in spin-offs and i'm no fan of the Conjuring spin-offs (Annabelle and Nun) and Insidious but at least it's something different, well not quite, it's not the same horror franchises i've already seen with same icons, they are trying to create their own new horror icons and giving it an effort. Even Happy Death Day 1 and 2 which were hits, it's something different and trying to create it's own new horror icon and gave it an effort. Just try again mainstream, try try try again.

Hell even the 2000s created it's own new horror icons like Creeper, Captain Splauding and Jigsaw and Sam from Trick R Treat.

I don't want reheated leftovers from the 70s, 80s and 90s with the same scenes i've seen mutiple times from the other movies rearranged and thrown into a movie, i don't want that. Yes they tasted delicious back in the day and still do in some instances. I don't want more of it, i'm satisfied with what i have. Not all horror fans are like "i'm excited they are coming back to the big screen", some do actually have standards and are like "this is bullshit! i had enough of this! can we please get something fresh and different".

Now The Collector is something new and different as it's creating a new franchise and icon. The other franchises i mentioned like Elm Street, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Scream etc. are stale and have been laid to rest for a reason. We do not need to keep bringing them back, there's no point other than a cheap cash grab.

That's really it. I don't. I don't buy the reason "it introduces them to a new generation" that's a lazy excuse to say such a thing for a lazy sequel/reboot/remake as nowadays we have streaming platforms to discover classics on their own and that's the fun of it with streaming services nowadays to discover classics and if they like it then they would want to buy a blu-ray or UHD 4K BD if they are staring to become a horror fan after hearing things in internet and magazines and books.

I know it hurts, but sometimes if you love something, the best thing is for you to let them go from film and only be in merchandise. In this instant with the horror icons like Leatherface, Freddy, Ghostface, Jason, Pinhead, Jigsaw etc. the best thing for those icons and their franchises is to let them go, let them stay where they are instead of releasing sequel after sequel and reboot after reboot with diminishing returns and quality even worse after each movie. even on the big screen until they are no longer profitable. Why tarnish their legacy anymore than its already tarnished? it's just my personal thoughts. Some horror Icons with their franchises should stay buried from film (Freddy Leatherface Ghostface Jigsaw and Pinhead), not because their old and not great for modern day standards but because they had their time. But Ideas for these Icons aren't really needed anymore, its the same thing. I want more Original monsters, "The Babadook" "It Follows" etc.


It's just those franchises (TCM Saw Elm Street Scream Hellraiser etc) had ran their course, they are like the Universal monsters as they got driven into the ground until it became diminishing returns then became jokes and were overplayed and became such an aspect of popular culture that were was no need to do anymore for decades and i think we are already at that point. I think it's time to move on and make new horror icons and franchises.

[Zillamon51]

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